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Old Posted Jul 17, 2015, 5:43 PM
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So, having looked it up (because I was bored and curious) Hamilton would have been ~40th for transit use as % of commuters in the US in 2010 (for cities over 100k). That sounds bad until you find out there's nearly 300 US cities over 100k, so even if Hamilton's been bad by Canada standards it's not at the US average.
Hamilton would be around the 35th largest city in the United States (Tucson has about the same population as Hamilton- 520,000 in 2010- and is 33). So being the equivalent of 40th in transit usage is probably mediocre given its size. I would say it’s worse than mediocre given the fact that Hamilton is on the edge of one of the largest metropolitan areas on the continent.

We might as well figure out how well Hamilton would rank amongst Australian cities, or English ones, though, for all the use this is. Amongst our peers, we’re performing terribly.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2015, 7:04 PM
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Hamilton would be around the 35th largest city in the United States (Tucson has about the same population as Hamilton- 520,000 in 2010- and is 33). So being the equivalent of 40th in transit usage is probably mediocre given its size. I would say it’s worse than mediocre given the fact that Hamilton is on the edge of one of the largest metropolitan areas on the continent.

We might as well figure out how well Hamilton would rank amongst Australian cities, or English ones, though, for all the use this is. Amongst our peers, we’re performing terribly.
Well many of the smaller cities ahead of Hamilton are part of large urban areas. Jersey City, Arlington, Cambridge, Newark, Yonkers, Daly City, Alexandria, etc. More than a few are closer to the downtown of the metro's main city than parts of Toronto are to downtown Toronto.

As for comparing Hamilton to Australian or English cites, I'd say Australia and New Zealand would be interesting to see, but the development pattern of England is too different for easy comparison.

Here's the Aussies:
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2015, 8:26 PM
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I don't know that there's an easy way of getting a clear read on HSR adoption by commuters. StatsCan measures public transit use by commuters across the Hamilton CMA (9.3%), but that's obviously larger than just Hamilton or the HSR. And even in terms of the HSR, we have an idea about annual total and per capita ridership, but can only begin to guess at workforce adoption. The 2010 Operational Review, for example, showed around 40% of weekday riders as seniors, students/U-Pass or special pass riders — all of whom might be active members of the workforce, but also might not be. Ditto for adult cash fare and passes, really.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2015, 10:41 AM
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From the Hamilton Transit blog...

http://www.hamiltontransit.ca/fall-2...-enhancements/

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Fall 2015 Service Enhancements [UPDATED 7/19]


Proposed changes for FALL 2015 are summarized below. These changes represent Phase 1 of the Ten Year (2015-2024) Local Transit Strategy. Phase 1, to be rolled out over three periods (September 2015, March 2016 & September 2016) is comprised of actions designed to address current system deficiencies by applying the limited additional vehicles and operators where we will get the best return on investment.

System deficiencies were identified by analyzing various data samples like schedule deviation and passenger loadings (among many other data sets). A sample of that data can be seen in the tables on the following pages. Additionally, input from Operations and the passengers was equally important and valuable.

The strategies to be utilized to address the identified deficiencies can be a combination of one or more of the following actions.

Increased frequency
Additional school only trips
Additional running time
Additional layover
Route restructuring
Bus type allocation modifications


SCHEDULING / ROUTING CHANGES

Regular weekday schedules will resume operation on routes 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 21, 22, 23, 24, 27, 33, 34, 35 and 41, as per past practice with the following modifications versus the Spring 2015 schedules:


3 CANNON

(Weekdays, Saturdays & Sundays)

-One additional vehicle will be added during most time periods (more runtime & layover). Cannon service span on Sundays will remain at approximately 8:30am to 6:00pm.

-Layover time has been increased to help with schedule adherence.


4 BAYFRONT

(Weekdays)

-Interlining of 3 CANNON and 4 BAYFRONT will not be implemented. The trip shifting for the West Harbour GO Station that was implemented in the summer has been applied to the regular weekday schedule.


6 ABERDEEN
7 LOCKE
8 YORK

(Weekdays)

-Minor trip shifting was done on all three routes in the early morning to connect with the recent revised GO train trips from the Hamilton GO station.


9 ROCK GARDENS

(Sundays)

-The last day of operation will be Sunday, November 8.


18 WATERDOWN

(Weekdays & Saturdays)

-As a result of a resident’s survey, this route will be reconfigured for a 1-year trial period to provide for improved coverage in residential and commercial area.

-Route realignments include service on Hollybush (in place of Highway #6) and on Spring Creek (in place of Evans).

-Service will be provided in both directions on Parkside, Dundas, Hollybush, Spring Creek and Burke.

-Service frequency will be 30-minutes in both directions with one additional vehicle, with service span increased on Weekdays to include the base time period (8:30am to 3:00pm). On Saturdays, service frequency will be 30 minutes in both directions, between approximately 8:30am and 8:30pm.


21 UPPER KENILWORTH

(Weekdays, Saturdays & Sundays)

-As part of the Mohawk College / James / Upper James corridor improvements, service coverage will be expanded, thru the addition of 2 peak vehicles (more runtime & layover), to include the Heritage Green Shopping Centre, via Mud, Pritchard, Stone Church, Paramount, Winterberry, Artfrank, and Upper Mount Albion.

-This coverage expansion will operate during all time periods.

-All buses will serve Mohawk College Fennell Campus in both directions.

-Interlining with Route 33 SANATORIUM will cease.


22 UPPER OTTAWA

(Weekdays)

-Minor trip shifting was done to improve connections to the early morning GO trains from the Hamilton GO Station.


27 UPPER JAMES

(Weekdays)

-One additional southbound early morning trip from the MacNab Transit Terminal has been added as per a customer request.


33 SANITORIUM

(Weekdays, Saturdays & Sundays)

-As part of the Mohawk College / James / Upper James corridor improvements, interlining with route 21 UPPER KENILWORTH will cease.

-All buses will serve Mohawk College Fennell Campus in both directions. One additional weekday peak vehicle will be added (more runtime & layover)


51 UNIVERSITY

(Weekdays & Saturdays)

-As part of the King / Main / Queenston corridor improvements, articulated buses will be assigned to all keys.

-Route 51 UNIVERSITY exhibited very high loadings and subsequent late running (more so than routes 1 KING & 10 B-LINE EXPRESS which will look to address in upcoming boards).

-Weekday peak period service frequency will be increased during the base, PM peak, and evening time periods with up to 4 additional vehicles, with PM peak frequency adjusted to 7.5 minutes from the current 10 minutes. This service enhancement should also help Routes 1 KING & 10 B-LINE EXPRESS.

-On Saturdays, service span will be increased, with increases in service frequency during the mid-day period to 20 minutes from 30 minutes. Introducion of Sunday service will be reviewed.

-Additional service delivery from April 30th thru to Labour Day will be reviewed during 2015 with enhancements to take effect during Phase 1 of the Local Transit Strategy implementation, planned for Spring 2016.


56 CENTENNIAL

(Weekdays, Saturdays & Sundays)

-The service to and from Wild Waterworks at Confederation Park will no longer operate, as per past practice. The frequency was revised to 45 minutes (from 60) as a result.


99 WATERFRONT

(Weekdays, Saturdays & Sundays)

-The last day of operation for this route will be Labour Day, Monday, September 7th.


*These planned enhancements are subject to change.
The highlight for me here is the 21 expansion. That is something I've kept my eye on for the last 4-5 years, and when it does FINALLY happen, it'll be a LOT safer to get to Heritage Greene.

That, and it will also finally connect Upper Stoney Creek to Downtown directly, which is ALWAYS a plus for any bus route.

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Old Posted Jul 22, 2015, 12:23 PM
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That is great news about reduced headways on the 51, and exclusively articulated buses to be used. Excellent that frequency will be increased to every 7.5 minutes; excellent that frequency on Saturday will be increased to every 20 minutes. Excellent that Sunday and summer service will be reviewed; I am confident that an honest review would lead to the conclusion that at least some service on this line would be justified in the summer.

The B Line corridor needs investments like this; as everyone knows, it is overburdened, and overloading and drive-bys are far too common. A couple of extra buses an hour, and more bendy buses, will hopefully alleviate things. Maybe this will take the edge off the nine percent fare hike coming in September.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2015, 7:28 PM
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An excerpt from Jarrett Walker's Human Transit blog and an essay entitled Hating your transit agency won't make it better:

'Hating your transit agency is easy and fun. You don't have to understand your regional politics, in which the real power to fix transit is usually not held by the transit agency. You can also have the thrill of blowing up a big institutional edifice, as Metro Vancouver voters may now have done.

But a lot that's good will also be destroyed. In Metro Vancouver, amid all the recriminations, TransLink has lost the credibility it needs to lead reality-based conversations about transit. Maybe some other agency will step into that role. (Indeed, core cities for whom transit is an existential issue must develop that capability.) Or maybe there will just be many more years of blame shifting among the elected officials who really control transit in the region.

If you look at transit from the point of view of a state or province leader, you can understand why so many politicians are terrified of the issue. Everyone is screaming at them about it, pushing simplistic solutions, and the issue is polarizing on urban-suburban lines. Some huge problems, like equipment failures due to deferred maintenance, are curses laid upon us all by our parents' generation. What's more, most elite leaders are motorists, and need help finding their feet in the geometric facts of transit where a motorists' assumptions lead them astray. So they panic, shift blame, and leave transit agencies appearing to have more power to solve problems than they actually have. If you've never been a political leader, don't be sure you wouldn't do the same in their place.

Be patient. Breathe. Resist the desire to see your transit agency in smoldering ruins. Then, demand leadership. Demand state/provincial leadership that looks for solutions instead of pointlessly stoking urban-suburban conflict. (One possible solution is to spend more time on regional transportation debates instead of just transit debates, because regional transportation plans can look more balanced than transit plans can.) And yes, if your transit agency is being given dysfunctional direction by the region's leaders, demand a better system with more accountability to an elected official who will have to answer for outcomes.

Finally, if you live in a major city that cares about transit, demand that your city leaders look beyond blaming the transit agency, and that they do everything they can themselves to make their transit better. Remember, your city government, through its powers of land use planning and street design, controls transit at least as much as the transit agency does. Ask them: What is their transit plan? Tell them to follow the work of cities that are investing in transit themselves, beyond what their transit agency can afford, like Seattle and Washington DC., or for that matter transit-ambitious secondary cities like Bellevue, Washington, who have their own transit plans to guide the city's work. No regional or state transit authority -- beholden to state or regionwide government that is dominated by less urban interests -- is going to meet all of the transit needs of a dense, core city that has chosen to make transit a foundation of its livability. Their staff may well be doing what they can with the direction that they have, but they need your city government's active support, involvement, leadership, and investment.

Sorry, transit is complicated. It's fun to blow things up, as Metro Vancouver's voters probably have. But the solutions are out there, if we all demand leadership, and offer it."
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2015, 12:34 PM
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I read that piece on Human Transit last week, and it really spoke to me. He's right when he talks about "leadership," and that's what transit here lacks.

During last year’s election, one of the ward one candidates proposed setting up a transit board that would be arms-length from council. He told me that this once existed in Hamilton. Currently, the situation is such that individual councillors can and do veto routing changes and even service expansions that are determined by our professional transit planners to be improvements to the system. It’s a terrible situation.

I don’t hate our transit agency (well…sometimes I do). I hate how political it is much of the time. The problem isn’t HSR, it’s the politicians who prevent it from trying to do its job better. Possibly most of all the more urban councillors who do not fight for it, and when they do get involved often make it worse.
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2015, 11:21 PM
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BTW, this is what the 21 UPPER KENILWORTH expansion would look like, in map form.

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Old Posted Aug 6, 2015, 5:54 PM
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According to the CBC, part of the municipal report being tabled Monday will recommend that area rating for transit be re-examined. Here's hoping some sanity eventually prevails there.
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2015, 7:07 AM
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Courtesy the HSR Official Website, here is the new Fall 2015 21 UPPER KENILWORTH schedule.

http://www.hamilton.ca/sites/default...esept_2015.pdf

2 things to see here would be that the bus route will now stop on campus at Mohawk College, and the new extension(which I've waited SO LONG to see happen) to Heritage Greene.

The new stops, for those who don't want to click the link, are...

Southbound

-Mohawk College Loop
-Limeridge at Albion Falls
-Mud at Pritchard
-Opposite #211 Pritchard
-Stone Church at Red Hill Parkway
-Stone Church at Heritage Greene
-Paramount at Upper Mount Albion
-Winterberry at Paramount
-Up Mount Albion at Stone Church

Northbound

-Stone Church at Heritage Greene
-At #211 Pritchard
-Pritchard at Mud
-Limeridge at Albion Falls
-Mohawk College Loop

Now if the 11 PARKDALE, 22 UPPER OTTAWA, and 43 STONE CHURCH buses could be re-aligned onto Upper Mount Albion, beside the cinema, then HG would see a LOT more foot traffic. =)

What do you all think?
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Mohawk College Transit Terminal Construction to Start this Summer

August 4, 2015

More than three years after being announced, it was confirmed today that the new Mohawk College Multi-Modal Transit Terminal will begin construction very soon.

Ron Taylor, Chief Real Estate, Planning & Development Officer at Mohawk College, confirmed the timeline for construction of the new facility with us this morning.

“We are finally able to confirm that the transit infrastructure for Mohawk College Terminal will begin construction later this summer,” Taylor stated via email this morning.

The Terminal is scheduled to open in the new year.

The Mohawk College Transit Terminal will include bus bays and terminals, as well as rider amenities such as shelters, real-time service information and ticket machines. The new transportation hub will be located at the corner of West 5th and Fennell and will be used by four HSR routes. Routes 20 A-LINE EXPRESS, 21 UPPER KENILWORTH, 33 SANATORIUM, and 35 COLLEGE will all use the new terminal.

The construction of the terminal can be seen as a final phase to construction that has been going on in and around the campus for several months. The road construction has detoured all four HSR routes through campus, which was recently announced to become a permanent change.

http://www.hamiltontransit.ca/wp-con...l-550x1024.jpg
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Here's the full Hamilton Transit page with a link to presentation slides.
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It always threw me off that Mohawk isn't on Mohawk.
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It always threw me off that Mohawk isn't on Mohawk.
I've never actually thought about that until you mentioned it.
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I've never actually thought about that until you mentioned it.
Remember when not all the #5 Delaware bus routes included Delaware? That was confusing for me when I moved here and found myself heading only along Main Street East.
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Remember when not all the #5 Delaware bus routes included Delaware? That was confusing for me when I moved here and found myself heading only along Main Street East.
Yeah, here too. I used to take it to/from Mac occasionally when I had class when the B-Line wasn't running, and if I wasn't careful I'd end up somewhere I wasn't aiming to be. (that was mainly a homebound risk heading east, depending if I was on the 5, 5A, 5E). What I found funny about those routes was that Delaware Ave. is quite short in relation to the entire route length... it's not even 1km long.
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Hamilton's ridership went up for 2013 to 2014, up by 1.9%.

http://www.nxtbook.com/naylor/CUTF/C...php?startid=26
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Hamilton's ridership went up for 2013 to 2014, up by 1.9%.

http://www.nxtbook.com/naylor/CUTF/C...php?startid=26
Over the last 25 years, the HSR has experienced no more than four consecutive years of ridership growth (ie. 1998-2001 and 2003-2006), and this makes two consecutive years — but it's the HSR's highest total ridership since 1992, so that's noteworthy.
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Personally I feel that we'll see that trend continue, even with the impending fare hike. It seems like the HSR is finally starting to get its crap together these days and is looking to the future.
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The increase of densification downtown must be helping a bit too.
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