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Old Posted Jan 17, 2009, 7:15 AM
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while i know the "my friend says . . . " is always a dicey way to back up your knowledge both sources are relatively close to the mouth on this one. this differs from many of the tanked projects mentioned like signature in nashville and most of charlotte in that there are five sources of revenue within the project. not just residential (if this were all res, we could have written it off long ago) or offices (tenuous, but still a no-go, especially in louisville), this also has the museum, u of louisville component and a hotel. that isn't to say that one component is going to sell the project, but there's a diverse enough base of interests going into the projects to give it at least a little more hope than many other projects.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2009, 3:34 AM
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while i know the "my friend says . . . " is always a dicey way to back up your knowledge both sources are relatively close to the mouth on this one. this differs from many of the tanked projects mentioned like signature in nashville and most of charlotte in that there are five sources of revenue within the project. not just residential (if this were all res, we could have written it off long ago) or offices (tenuous, but still a no-go, especially in louisville), this also has the museum, u of louisville component and a hotel. that isn't to say that one component is going to sell the project, but there's a diverse enough base of interests going into the projects to give it at least a little more hope than many other projects.
I read you - sum of the parts, good point. However, the museum is not a revenue generator - so it can't carry it's burden of capital expense w/ which the other components must pick up the shortfall. So that has no reasonable approach to recap as far as a bank is considered. The office market won't suppport the $25/foot quotes on rent as nothing in Louisville has even come close to that threshold. And the last time I checked Abramson had run most competing fortune 1000 companies out. The res component won't generate enough presales based upon the lenders preconstruction requirements and U of L - well - my crystal ball says they may be broke before all is said and done. Not exactly a triple A rated anchor tenant and the board could never justify the rent quotes.
Its all just - interesting cocktail talk but there is no basic operating mechanism of the whole project, except one.
Have the parties that are proposing such a building had any experience in real estate development on this magnitude before - do they intend to own or flip? I mean aside of the 90 room boutique motel.
Finally curious whe makes the calls: Greenburg, Wilson, Brown or Poe?

Last question - I'll send you in a PM
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Museum Plaza under counst by soon.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 2:14 AM
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Crock of crap, and half of that opinion comes from horrid grammar.
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2009, 9:04 PM
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what about museum plaza start of under counst??????

and captail plaza will be cancalled. i need more skyscraper building.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2009, 3:56 PM
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I saw on webcam something on there from crane, maybe start of built, i guess
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2009, 10:29 PM
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I saw on webcam something on there from crane, maybe start of built, i guess
I sure hope not. If there was ever a building that needed to be canceled, this is it. Gawd!
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2009, 4:20 AM
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Lies! This building is amazing! Too bad it's not taller.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2009, 11:43 PM
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that Electronics tower will tear down, i think Museum Plaza will be under Construction by soon start, i guess.
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Old Posted Mar 1, 2009, 11:44 PM
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Lies! This building is amazing! Too bad it's not taller.
what Lies??
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I sure hope not. If there was ever a building that needed to be canceled, this is it. Gawd!
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this differs from many of the tanked projects mentioned like signature in nashville and most of charlotte...
Hold on, I just caught this. While a few have been put on hold or cancelled, most of the projects in Charlotte have NOT tanked. Several cranes still dot our skyline. Now back to our regularly scheduled discussion...
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One quick thing. Signature is being redesigned and shortened, not cancelled.

Our new conventiov center will definetly boost the city a little to get stuff moving again.
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3/09 - and the MP thread can probably be closed


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almost done LG&E tower, after that will be beging under counst..
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almost done LG&E tower, after that will be beging under counst..
Whatever.
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something on there set up of tent what for?? i think not sure talk about museum plaza re-conust. duno when start it??
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Ok, so can anyone confirm the death of this project? I hate it that it does seem to be dead, but after months now of no news at all, it does not appear as though it's going to resume construction. It would've been a great addition to the skyline and would've attracted a lot of attention to Louisville, but if it's not gonna happen I hope a new proposal for a tower comes together soon. Any info on the other significant high rise proposals like Capital Plaza and the twin tower/garage combo?

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^Sadly we may never know. . . unlike project announcements and/or groundbreaking ceremonies, little fanfare is involved when a project dies. . . typically they just never obtain the financing needed and the project just fades away. . .
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Old Posted May 19, 2009, 11:21 PM
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Ok, so can anyone confirm the death of this project? I hate it that it does seem to be dead, but after months now of no news at all, it does not appear as though it's going to resume construction. It would've been a great addition to the skyline and would've attracted a lot of attention to Louisville, but if it's not gonna happen I hope a new proposal for a tower comes together soon. Any info on the other significant high rise proposals like Capital Plaza and the twin tower/garage combo?

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what new proposals??? i hear new proposals tower?
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