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Originally Posted by De Minimis NY
I think the sense of caution conveyed in reporting about the 57th Street towers also represents a justified concern about the questionable sustainability of dumping this much luxury supply on the market at once. How deep is the can the market for 25M+, or even 75M+ apartments really be?
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The demand will answer that question. The same concern could be asked about office space being built or proposed on the west side, but it hardly is in the media. Only the WTC or proposed towers of the Grand Central area get that a lot.
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For towers relying so heavily on super-luxury pricing, though, where is all of the demand coming from? 5-10 years ago there were only a handful of apartments in the whole city that could have drawn prices that now serve as fundamental assumptions in the financial models for these projects.
I love the designs we are getting out of this luxury housing boom, but I think there is a very realistic possibility a bubble is forming in this sector of the market. Look at some of the beautiful apartments selling for 50M (say the penthouse at Walker Tower)... is that really only half the value of the top floors of One57?
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You ask questions that the market will answer. It's the market, and not just "concerns" about it that will decide what gets built. None of that justifies the concern over these towers being built, because truthfully, the buildings are tall, but they aren't really that large. And New York has never been a timid city.
I think their primary concern is the number of tall buildings being built, but my point is that same concern is hardly found anywhere for the Hudson Yards, which will have much larger buildings, casting larger shadows.