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Old Posted Apr 17, 2017, 4:04 AM
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If you look closely, you can see the steel beams extending above the top.
Most likely for a structure that will hold the cooling towers
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Pardon my stupid question, but are the "cooling towers" that gray part of the building on the 18th Street side that are above the roof but lower than the spire? Is that included in the roof height?
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That is correct. Looks like the cooling towers are staged on the terrace on the north side ready to be hoisted up. They have been there for over a month.
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Enjoy guys. From April 13th.

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Old Posted Apr 18, 2017, 1:58 AM
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Akujen, love the pic!! Thanks for the super high Rez! Great pic!
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I wonder if the opportunity for Comcast to expand its presence in the former Bell Atlantic Tower lessens the need for a third tower? Something already built, across the street, seems like an easy choice. Maybe they might add that sky bridge thingy that was discussed a few weeks ago.

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Conjuring amazing images of what that lantern and shaft will do to the skyline at night. Stunning!
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2017, 12:14 AM
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Conjuring amazing images of what that lantern and shaft will do to the skyline at night. Stunning!
It'll probably be too dimly lit, like everything else in Center City. At night, PHiladelphia looks like the city that always sleeps.
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2017, 3:09 AM
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It'll probably be too dimly lit, like everything else in Center City. At night, PHiladelphia looks like the city that always sleeps.
It's not bad as a whole, but the Liberty Place towers' deficient lighting is quite noticeable. Let's hope the spire of CITC shines like the crown of Mellon Bank Center.
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2017, 11:20 AM
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It's not bad as a whole, but the Liberty Place towers' deficient lighting is quite noticeable. Let's hope the spire of CITC shines like the crown of Mellon Bank Center.
I think there's reason for optimism given that the top portion is after all a lantern - if the engineers managed to design the brightness out of it I call conspiracy
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For some reason they stopped fireproofing the steel with 10 floors to go a couple of weeks ago. That will stop the glass install at that point. I really don't get the way some things have sequenced on this building. They seem to keep doing things that stop other things from moving forward. Either bad project planning, bad material management or something. Rather a frustrating building to watch go up. If you look at other buildings, here and on other city sites, the sequence usually makes sense. Not so much with this one. Lots of dead time without visible progress. This is not a hospital with complicated infrastructure that takes time, its a hotel.
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2017, 1:26 PM
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It's been said before, since they kind of have to transition between two companies with this section there's probably bound to be trouble.
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For some reason they stopped fireproofing the steel with 10 floors to go a couple of weeks ago. That will stop the glass install at that point. I really don't get the way some things have sequenced on this building. They seem to keep doing things that stop other things from moving forward. Either bad project planning, bad material management or something. Rather a frustrating building to watch go up. If you look at other buildings, here and on other city sites, the sequence usually makes sense. Not so much with this one. Lots of dead time without visible progress. This is not a hospital with complicated infrastructure that takes time, its a hotel.
L.F. Driscoll, being the General Contractor, is probably having a logistics nightmare. With little to no glass installation on the top half, interior fit-out gets delayed by months. And on a project like this, liquidated damages could be $10k - $25k for each week the building doesn't meet its construction deadline. I'm sure triple-shifts are being utilized to compensate for lost time. No doubt the laborers, architect, and GC are going at each-other. Lawyer up!
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For some reason they stopped fireproofing the steel with 10 floors to go a couple of weeks ago. That will stop the glass install at that point. I really don't get the way some things have sequenced on this building. They seem to keep doing things that stop other things from moving forward. Either bad project planning, bad material management or something. Rather a frustrating building to watch go up.
Isn't it just possible that they are prioritizing finishing the hundreds of thousands of square feet of office space as quickly as possible as Comcast NEEDS to start moving personnel in ASAP?
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2017, 5:00 PM
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Isn't it just possible that they are prioritizing finishing the hundreds of thousands of square feet of office space as quickly as possible as Comcast NEEDS to start moving personnel in ASAP?
Very highly doubt that - there are two critical must-hit dates: substantial completion and CO (certificate of occupancy). The first requires the building be turned over back to the Owner AND requires contractual payment. The latter, requires the building be inspected and deemed safe before tenants move in. This is typically not the case when construction is still in progress.
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Isn't it just possible that they are prioritizing finishing the hundreds of thousands of square feet of office space as quickly as possible as Comcast NEEDS to start moving personnel in ASAP?
Certainly that has to be a priority, but wouldn't the sub-contractors that are performing interior carpentry/finishing work be different than those working on the structural steel, cooling towers and glass up above? Seems they oughta be able to walk & chew gum at the same time
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2017, 5:08 PM
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Not sure this adds up.

http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...randywine.html

Verizon is vacating 89K sq. ft.
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The company now occupies only about 89,000 square feet in the former Bell Atlantic building, less than a tenth of its office space, brokerage Newmark Grubb Knight Frank said in a report this month.
Comcast Currently uses 200K sq. ft. of space in the building.
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Comcast Corp. — already the tower’s biggest occupant with about 200,000 square feet under lease
Comcast needs at least 300K sq. ft. to consolidate currently leased space.
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It also leases about 200,000 square feet nearby at the 709,000-square-foot Two Logan Square building and occupies about 100,000 square feet at the 1.8 million-square-foot Centre Square office complex near City Hall, JLL’s Marcus said.
The Verizon tower could meet their space needs if a lot more space becomes available in the tower but just Verizon leaving would not free enough room to consolidate office space if that is their intention. This also does not factor in Comcast's growth and future need for more space.

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Jerry Sweeney, chief executive of Brandywine Realty Trust, which owns the former Bell Atlantic building, said his company had long been aware of Verizon’s plans to vacate the tower, and that “several key prospects” have been lined up for the space.
Seems like they may have already found someone for Verizon's space.

But in the end I guess we will have to wait and see what they decide.
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