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Old Posted Jan 29, 2018, 7:01 PM
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I believe this puts Calgary at 2 for the year.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...atal-1.4507795
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2018, 7:10 PM
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Police shootings don't and shouldn't count as homicides. The guy charged officers while holding a knife, justified police shooting that likely prevented a homicide.
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Police shootings don't and shouldn't count as homicides. The guy charged officers while holding a knife, justified police shooting that likely prevented a homicide.
Unless the police officer is subequently found guilty for the death.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2018, 12:16 AM
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Even if the officer is never charged it is still considered a homicide.
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Unless the police officer is subequently found guilty for the death.
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Even if the officer is never charged it is still considered a homicide.
A homicide is an unlawful killing, a police officer using deadly force due to a guy charging him with a knife isn't an unlawful killing, thus it is not a homicide. Still unfortunate nonetheless...
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2018, 1:19 AM
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There is justified and excusable homicide in Canada. Police shootings usually fall under this category.
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There is justified and excusable homicide in Canada. Police shootings usually fall under this category.
Do statscan stats for homicide count police justified homicides in their totals. I was looking at some of the statscan numbers for some cities and provinces for 2016 and some seemed higher than what had been reported in the media.
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Toronto had a bad month with the Sherman murders included, Ontario versus Quebec massive difference per capita.

December 2017 Canadian Homicide Statistics
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Toronto had a bad month with the Sherman murders included, Ontario versus Quebec massive difference per capita.

December 2017 Canadian Homicide Statistics
Toronto vs. Montreal and Ontario vs. Quebec have been diverging for a while in terms of homicide rates.

At this point it's unclear whether it's a trend that will continue or if they will switch places (in terms of per capita rates anyway) again as they have on occasion in the past.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2018, 7:29 PM
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A homicide is an unlawful killing, a police officer using deadly force due to a guy charging him with a knife isn't an unlawful killing, thus it is not a homicide. Still unfortunate nonetheless...
Homicide is the act of one human taking the life of another. Murder is one example (and how this thread should really be named). But manslaughter, execution, self defence, and police shootings (for example) are also classified as homicide.

That was really my point. Calgary stands at two homicides and one murder for the year.
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I don't normally follow local news there but happened upon the news that Peel Region (suburbs to the immediate west of Toronto) has had four murders this month.

Peel Region has 1.3 million people, so if the same pace continues all year they'll end up with a murder rate of about 4 per 100,000.

Low by some places' standards but high for Canada.

It's only one month though.
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lucky he could have been the next victim

Police found man tied to Bruce McArthur’s bed when he was arrested: sources

Police were concerned as they watched a man going into Bruce McArthur’s Thorncliffe Park apartment on the morning of Jan. 18.

Fearing for the man’s safety, officers kicked down the door and arrested the alleged serial killer, sources told Global News’ Catherine MacDonald.

READ MORE: Timeline of events in Bruce McArthur suspected serial killings case

Once inside, they found the man tied to the accused serial killer’s bed, sources said.

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https://globalnews.ca/news/3994852/m..._campaign=2014
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Word is there's been some type of mass shooting at the courthouse in Maniwaki, about 100-150 km north of Gatineau-Ottawa. Injuries confirmed.
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Word is there's been some type of mass shooting at the courthouse in Maniwaki, about 100-150 km north of Gatineau-Ottawa. Injuries confirmed.
I don't think it was a mass shooting. Here's more info.

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2 seriously injured in incident at Maniwaki, Que., courthouse

Two people were seriously injured in an incident at the courthouse in Maniwaki, Que., on Wednesday afternoon.

An officer with the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) said there was an altercation between an accused and a courthouse employee around 1 p.m. ET. Both were taken to the hospital with serious injuries, though it's unclear if their conditions are life-threatening.

Paramedics said that one person suffered gunshot wounds in the incident.

Full story at: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...ebec-1.4512228
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I don't think it was a mass shooting. Here's more info.

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2 seriously injured in incident at Maniwaki, Que., courthouse

Two people were seriously injured in an incident at the courthouse in Maniwaki, Que., on Wednesday afternoon.

An officer with the Sûreté du Québec (SQ) said there was an altercation between an accused and a courthouse employee around 1 p.m. ET. Both were taken to the hospital with serious injuries, though it's unclear if their conditions are life-threatening.

Paramedics said that one person suffered gunshot wounds in the incident.

Full story at: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...ebec-1.4512228
Yeah, it's scary but it doesn't sound as bad as when the news first came out earlier.
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Yeah, it's scary but it doesn't sound as bad as when the news first came out earlier.
Is it safe to assume that the courthouse in question does not check people for weapons, etc. before allowing them to enter the main building? Even though having to go through security is a major PITA it probably does prevent a lot of weapons from entering courthouses.
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Is it safe to assume that the courthouse in question does not check people for weapons, etc. before allowing them to enter the main building? Even though having to go through security is a major PITA it probably does prevent a lot of weapons from entering courthouses.
I don't know if they have metal detectors or not but from what is emerging the gun was the service weapon of a special police constable who is there for security. An accused individual got some kind of weapon (not a firearm) in his hands and started attacking people with it. The special constable shot him in the head. Both the constable and the accused were taken to hospital.
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I don't know if they have metal detectors or not but from what is emerging the gun was the service weapon of a special police constable who is there for security. An accused individual got some kind of weapon (not a firearm) in his hands and started attacking people with it. The special constable shot him in the head. Both the constable and the accused were taken to hospital.
That video is going to cause them some problems, although there will be multiple witnesses who will have seen whatever weapon the 18 year old had.
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I don't know if they have metal detectors or not but from what is emerging the gun was the service weapon of a special police constable who is there for security. An accused individual got some kind of weapon (not a firearm) in his hands and started attacking people with it. The special constable shot him in the head. Both the constable and the accused were taken to hospital.
CBC has updated the story and there's video now. Holy fuck what a crazy scene! Unfortunately I don't understand French so I could only understand what the people speaking English were saying. If you watch the video very carefully it looks as if the security guy (or whatever they are) shot the guy while he was down. So many officers and yet they had to shoot the guy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...ebec-1.4512228
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That video is going to cause them some problems, although there will be multiple witnesses who will have seen whatever weapon the 18 year old had.
The updated CBC article says he grabbed the officers baton but in the video I didn't see him ever have possession of it. To me it looked like the officer definitely was choking him and it sure didn't look there there was any reason to shoot him. I think there's going to be a lot of problems over this incident.
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