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br323206 · #**361** Posted **May 28, 2015, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by jsbrook

This depends very heavily on what the chain is. Capital Grillle and McCormicks are chains. So is Popeyes Chicken. Very different. And plenty of mid-range chains between the two extremes.

Interestingly if I need a quick and easy (and extremely unhealthy) lunch I'll definitely stop at a Popeyes. But I would never willingly go to a Capital Grille or a McCormicks. Why? Because if I'm going to drop a little money on a meal I want a unique experience, not a chain.

1487 · #**362** Posted **May 28, 2015, 5:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

Interestingly if I need a quick and easy (and extremely unhealthy) lunch I'll definitely stop at a Popeyes. But I would never willingly go to a Capital Grille or a McCormicks. Why? Because if I'm going to drop a little money on a meal I want a unique experience, not a chain.

All well and good but probably totally opposite view of most travellers. Whether they are business folks who have their meals covered or conventioners from small town america- they aren't likely to venture into the neighborhoods to find the hottest little BYOB spot with 10 tables and a menu they can barely indentify. We need to offer what the market is looking for here. Otherwise many visitors are just going to eat at Chillis, Olive Garden or Fridays.

br323206 · #**363** Posted **May 28, 2015, 6:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by 1487

All well and good but probably totally opposite view of most travellers. Whether they are business folks who have their meals covered or conventioners from small town america- they aren't likely to venture into the neighborhoods to find the hottest little BYOB spot with 10 tables and a menu they can barely indentify. We need to offer what the market is looking for here. Otherwise many visitors are just going to eat at Chillis, Olive Garden or Fridays.

Oh no I agree. Just an observation about how my own behavior probably doesn't line up with most Americans.

apetrella802 · #**364** Posted **May 28, 2015, 7:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

Oh no I agree. Just an observation about how my own behavior probably doesn't line up with most Americans.

Since I am a volunteer architectural guide for the AIA Center for Architecture I love to go through Tripadvisor and see what visitors think about all things Philadelphia. There are a fair number of people who search out neighborhood restaurants like Bibou, Ristorante Pesto , Fiorino's, Tulula's Garden, and many other upscale places when at a conference or vacation etc. Back in the late 70s and 80s there was what was called a restaurant Renaissance. It was supported by mostly locals, city and suburbs, because there was no new convention center and tourism was limited. It also was not a renaissance because that implies a rebirth of something that existed in the past. The restaurant scene in Philadelphia today is light years beyond what existed back then, although there were notable exceptions like LeBec Fin, Ciboutette(SP?), Deux Chemane(Two Chimneys, pardon my spelling) etc. etc. one I remember very well was called Le Camargue near the Forrest Theater that lasted 26 years. Really excellent French restaurants were far more numerous then , they seems to have fallen out of fashion, too bad!

Cro Burnham · #**365** Posted **May 28, 2015, 9:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by apetrella802

Really excellent French restaurants were far more numerous then , they seems to have fallen out of fashion, too bad!

I've heard French people say the same about French food in general. Most French people I have spoken to pretty much admit Italians have maintained high food culture much better than the French have, such that at present, Italian food (in Italy, anyway) is at traditional high levels, while French food (in France) has sort of fallen on hard times comparatively. Of course, French dog food is probably still better than what 90% of Americans are used to. Say, Wendy's (

). Hee hee.

Well, back on topic.

shadowbat2 · #**366** Posted **Jun 2, 2015, 9:32 AM**

Bottom floor almost opened up in the Snellenburg's building:

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Removal of brick beginning on the west end:

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summersm343 · #**367** Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 3:19 AM**

Update from Building Philly

More photos here:
https://www.facebook.com/BuildingPhilly

Jawnadelphia · #**368** Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 10:54 AM**

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Philly-Drew · #**369** Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 11:02 AM**

Deleted. Wrong thread.

1487 · #**370** Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 12:14 PM**

The amount of excavation going on at this site is staggering. This is on par with comcas 2 in terms of site work. There is an unbelievable amount of foundation rubble to be removed and now you can see old old tanks and other large items sitting down there. I guess this is partially due to the robust nature of the old building. They still have a long way to go down there.

summersm343 · #**371** Posted **Jun 14, 2015, 2:45 AM**

shadowbat2 · #**372** Posted **Jun 21, 2015, 4:39 AM**

Taken Friday:

West side has been completely stripped of masonry:

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Stripping away the roof over Clover Street, assuming it's gonna come down soon: (the street is closed off under this section)

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