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Originally Posted by nname
My vision on this:
I would like to see the Guildford Line branch out between Gateway and Surrey Central with an intermediate stations at 138th and 144th. The junction would be a Y so Guildford trains can alternate between Surrey Central (King George Line) and Gateway (Expo Line).
The Guildford Line will continues south on 152th with stations at 100th, 96th, and 91st. Then turn on Fraser with the Fleetwood station and a "bus loop" in the area enclosed by Fraser, 156th, and 88th (now that's a pretty good area for a transit exchange as all routes, no matter which way they go, can turn and load/unload in the same island surrounded by 3 roads). The line can then follow Fraser with stations at 64th, and 166th. After crossing 168th, the line becomes at-grade, turn on Pacific Hwy, and then into the Hydro ROW with stations at Pacific, 64th, and 60th. After that, the line elevates again with stations at Hwy10 @ 192th, Willowbrook (Langley Bypass @ Fraser), Langley Centre (Logan @ Glover).
The King George Line continue from King George to Newton with stations at Surrey Memorial Hospital, 88th, 80th, 76th, and 72nd. Then continue south to King George @ 64th, Surrey City Hall (Hwy 10 @ 144th), Colebrook (Colebrook @ 152nd), Morgan Creek (152nd @ 36th), 152nd @ Hwy 99, 152nd @ 24th, 152nd @ 20th, and White Rock Centre (152nd @ North Bluff).
Then LRT/BRT lines go on Interurban (Scott Rd Station through Newton, Willowbrook to Langley North at Glover), Scott (Interurban to Scottsdale), 72nd (Scottsdale through Newton to 152nd), 88th (Interurban through Fleetwood to Walnut Grove), 152nd (from Colebrook to Fleetwood), and 200th (from Haney Place/Maple Meadows through Walnut Grove to Willowbrook).
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That's very simplified and seems like a very good option, though I don't see how this would work well with any extensions over the "LRT-Ready" Port Mann Bridge as you could just take the Expo -> Millenium -> Evergreen in the same way (sure it's a bit inconvenient to keep switching but the Port Mann line would seem redundant for this reason). Wouldn't exactly have any western extension provisions to Richmond either (though a B-Line bus coupled with new HOV lanes on the 91 could solve that). The station at 100th would certainly serve the area (and my very own school
) very well.
I think the stations & routing should happen like this instead though:
-Gateway Station as the beginning, then east along 108th (any building on 104th would overcrowd it more and hinder a potential 6-laning of the route which IMO is badly required already considering traffic (esp. truck) volumes).
-Stations on 140th, 148th/Guildford Park
-Turns to go south on 150th Street, to meet up perfectly at the new Guildford Bus Loop to be built at 150th & 104th. South of Guildford, turns east at 101st near the movie theatre and then south on 152nd. There's some space on the west side of the Kingston Gardens property (undeveloped) that could be used for the 100th station. It would be at a convenient location near the T&T, Johnston Heights Secondary and nearby communities.
-Stations, from there, on 96th (SE corner, some expropriation required), 91st and then possibly in the 88th/156th/Fraser triangle (good location but roads need more upgrading esp. 156). From there, would continue on Fraser with stations at 160th/84th and 166th/Fleetwood Rec.
-From there, instead of following Fraser to 176th, it would turn south on 168th (much better route IMO instead of continuing to 176th - requiring more overpasses and possibly impeding a golf course), as a primarly at-grade route. After curving to elevate over 64th, there would be a station. East, then a station at 176th. The line would curve southeast and south, travelling between Lord Tweedsmuir Sec. and the Rodeo grounds. Cloverdale Rodeo station would be just south. If the line got too close to Cloverdale Centre it could ruin it; this is a good compromise.
-Would turn east and take 60th from there (or route 10) - potentially, underground could be better on this segment through residential. Stations at 184 or 186, & 192. Would turn north for a station at Willowbrook Drive & 196A then.
-East on Willowbrook past 200th to 200th Avenue station, then curve southeast skirting (part elevated across roads & railways) on unused land. Would curve south on 202 street @ H10 (good location for station w/commercial), elevate over the railway, then follow the railway spur at-grade under the Duncan St overpass. The line could end at a Glover Road station. It could be extended further into the city centre from there but I worry it would ruin what the quiet city centre is now, creating a concrete, elevated mess.
The King George Line should go like this:
-Start at King George. Curve south at field to station @ Surrey Hospital. West to meet King George after. Stations at 88th, 81st.
-At Newton, turns on 76th/Newton Bypass with a station at KG @ 76, continues and then turns left on 72nd to a station at the Wave Pool. -From there, go back to King George with stations @ 68th, 62nd, Surrey City Hall. Turn east on route 10, station @ Panorama. Turn south on 152, at grade/no stations until reaching 34th St/Morgan Creek. More stations at Cranley Dr/Hwy 99, King George/24th, and 20th.
-West & south on Martin Dr to a new Semiahmoo Centre bus loop. From there, (optionally), south on Martin Street to a White Rock Station just north of the pier.
IMO Surrey to Richmond is underserved, but a new line branching off at 22nd in New West (rather than in Surrey i.e. from Whalley or Newton) could work just as well. That or a very good B-Line with HOV lanes on Highway 91 like I said earlier would work.