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Old Posted Jul 10, 2012, 3:41 AM
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Nice article.

However in reality. Unless someone throws a big bag of money at a developer to develop the building, nothing will ever happen to it.
its not an unfeasible as people think....it will never compete with spec floor space in an office tower where you throw up some acoustic tile ceiling and paint the drywall but it can be done....it just takes imagination.

there are lots of examples of similar buildings being turned into very interesting places....it just depends what you want it to be.
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2012, 4:33 AM
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Nice article.

However in reality. Unless someone throws a big bag of money at a developer to develop the building, nothing will ever happen to it.
Same with almost all of centreventures other projects. The Avenue Building for example. The million bucks they threw at rrc's union bank tower. This one's worthy.
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2012, 3:55 PM
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it just takes imagination.
... and a boatload of public money.

You cannot deny the simple fact that this building would need a ton of free money just to get something off the ground.
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2012, 4:45 PM
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as i recall, you could do a complete office development of nearly 20 000 s.f. for $9m.

thats $450/sf.....definitely high, but hardly a boatload for what would be a new high profile building.

more creative uses other than simple office space might cost less to complete....offices have demanding mechanical costs and high levels of finishes.

a market or gallery could be left far more raw.


was the $7m katz wanted to give to anyone for a waterpark a 'boatload'?.....seems like it would be a minimal public investment to make it viable....they gave money to the avenue building to make it work...why not this project.
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2012, 5:12 PM
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as i recall, you could do a complete office development of nearly 20 000 s.f. for $9m.

thats $450/sf.....definitely high, but hardly a boatload for what would be a new high profile building.

more creative uses other than simple office space might cost less to complete....offices have demanding mechanical costs and high levels of finishes.

a market or gallery could be left far more raw.


was the $7m katz wanted to give to anyone for a waterpark a 'boatload'?.....seems like it would be a minimal public investment to make it viable....they gave money to the avenue building to make it work...why not this project.
I would personally LOVE to see a year round farmers market (along the lines of the Calgary farmers market) in the space.

It certainly could be left more "raw" but on the other side of the coin a farmers market is probably not going to attract the lease rates that office/retail space would. So it kinda puts us back at square one.

As for the waterpark money. It really should go back to rapid transit. But that is another discussion altogether.
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Living next door, I think what'd be awesome (but probably cost-prohibitive and not necessarily historically appropriate) would be to have a restaurant with a giant patio to the front (would without a doubt be one of the nicest patios in the city), and have a small residential development poking out the back 1/2 to 3/4s of the building, 3 or 4 storeys.
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Living next door, I think what'd be awesome (but probably cost-prohibitive and not necessarily historically appropriate) would be to have a restaurant with a giant patio to the front (would without a doubt be one of the nicest patios in the city), and have a small residential development poking out the back 1/2 to 3/4s of the building, 3 or 4 storeys.
That would be fantastic. Check out the Wapping Project in London for an idea what could be done.

Also note that the cost to demolish the site would be huge. It has pipes running underground into the river.
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That would be fantastic. Check out the Wapping Project in London for an idea what could be done.

Also note that the cost to demolish the site would be huge. It has pipes running underground into the river.
Don't think the pipes are that big of a deal that they would have to be removed completely to the river. When the city abandons watermains or sewers they specify that flowable concrete is to be injected into them as a sealant.
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the mising pump in the pump house is large enough space that one could put a corner store and a cafe... and turn the rear into a museum that shares a open screen wall to it of some sort would be an amazing space wonder how much that would cost if one aimed to make not a profit but a space that pays for its self.. the room is spray foamed though that needs to be redone and could be refoamed witch helps with the heating costs then theres the rooms in the back one could use for offices or exibits
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Looking at the architectural fragments around the Heritage Playground at the Forks today. Trying to identify the source - several of them are clearly from the one piece, probably a coat-of-arms for the city. From old city hall perhaps? Another piece is dated 1906. Any Ideas?

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Looking at the architectural fragments around the Heritage Playground at the Forks today. Trying to identify the source - several of them are clearly from the one piece, probably a coat-of-arms for the city. From old city hall perhaps? Another piece is dated 1906. Any Ideas?

http://yfrog.com/e36lj3j
http://yfrog.com/0zb8dij
http://yfrog.com/jn6h5hj
http://yfrog.com/3ulryjj
http://yfrog.com/eu39sdj

http://yfrog.com/5fwni0j
http://yfrog.com/0dg8woj

http://yfrog.com/jovhn4j
How about from the Old City Hall.
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^ the old post office on Portage?
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The "Industry Intelligence Integrity" stone is the bottom of the old coat of arms of the City of Toronto. But it's in tyndall stone, so it must surely have been somewhere in Winnipeg. The Bank of Toronto, possibly (although the main brach of that is still standing on Main Street) or maybe a panel featuring various cities' coats of arms at an institution such as the post office?

Actually, come to think of it, the likely source would have been the 1952 (?) Bank of Toronto at Portage and Notre Dame. These pieces might not be very old, which makes sense as that building (by then the main branch of the TD Bank) was torn down only around 1990 or 1991, making it one of the last sources of such material (along with the Childs Building next door, a bit of whose facade I use as a doorstop).
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2012, 4:52 AM
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an interesting video about osborne stadium

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amazing

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...-manitoba.html

Rare Manitoba photos of Louis Riel found in Australia
CBC News Posted: Mar 8, 2013 1:16 PM CST

Rare, historic photographs of Louis Riel and Manitoba, taken in the 1860s and 1870s, were found amongst civil war memorabilia at a recent auction in Australia.

The photos, eight of them, are now in part of the archives and special collections at the University of Manitoba. They were shown to the Manitoba public for the first time on Friday.


A photo shows an early traffic jam at the corner of Portage and Main in Winnipeg in June 1872. (University of Manitoba)
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Rare Manitoba photos of Louis Riel found in Australia
Kinda funky timing, what with the recent court rulings.
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You peeps should check out this website:

http://vintagewinnipeg.ca

Really cool old pics of the city.
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You peeps should check out this website:

http://vintagewinnipeg.ca

Really cool old pics of the city.
Great shots. armorand u should check out pics 39 and 42
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It is looking east down Graham Ave towards CityPlace. What is/was the beautiful 6-7 story building on the right side with the flag? Looks to be on the corner of Graham and Kennedy. What happened to it/why isn't it there anymore?

.......i love the crappy parking lot that is there today.
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It is looking east down Graham Ave towards CityPlace. What is/was the beautiful 6-7 story building on the right side with the flag? Looks to be on the corner of Graham and Kennedy. What happened to it/why isn't it there anymore?

.......i love the crappy parking lot that is there today.
That's the old Medical Arts Building, which was demolished to make way for a newer, taller replacement that opened in 1974. According to Winnipeg Downtown Places, the parking lot was originally intended to be the site of a grocery store which, like so many "future phases" of Winnipeg developments, never materialized.

More here: http://winnipegdowntownplaces.blogsp...ical-arts.html
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