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One of the large, new housing developments in the City (Brooklyn)...

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Earlier phase (shopping center). New housing and shopping center will be built on the northern side.





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A working- and middle-class community is rising in East Brooklyn thanks to idea proposed in The News



A crane lifts a modular unit into place at Phase 2 of the Nehemiah Spring Creek Homes.


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New York is pushing toward construction of a working- and middle-class community with solid, affordable houses, parkland and easy access to shopping. Just what this city needs.

The project is located in East New York, Brooklyn, out by the Belt Parkway and not far from Starrett City. It's a complex undertaking involving a developer, the city and the dedicated folks of the Nehemiah housing program.

Few organizations have done more than Nehemiah to make homeownership real for New Yorkers whose means are more modest than rich.

The strategy for getting it done was first propagated on the Opinion pages of the Daily News by builder I.D. Robbins, who announced that he could erect quality, affordable homes if the city donated tracts of land, allowing him to achieve economies of scale.

What's known as the Fresh Creek Urban Renewal Area is the latest example, and, as has often been the case, it is shepherded by East Brooklyn Congregations, a coalition of local churches.

An obscure city agency will today vote on one of the last okays in an excruciating bureaucratic approval process, helping to clear the way for 2,219 housing units, a 620,000-square-foot expansion of the Gateway Center Mall, 68,000 square feet of local retail shops, 46,000 square feet of community and public-use space, 36 acres of parkland and a high school.

Widespread speculation that the developer, the Related Cos., intends to lease space in the mall to Walmart has generated wrongheaded opposition to that part of the plan. Let that not obstruct New Yorkers from buying homes of their dreams.

Raise high the affordable roof beams, carpenters.
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Wow... I guess Chicago isn't the only one getting questionable retail/residential developments in outlying neighborhoods.

The residential buildings remind me of Sunnyside or Astoria, but the shopping center reminds me of middle-of-Texas suburbia.
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this is about half a mile from where i live
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Wow... I guess Chicago isn't the only one getting questionable retail/residential developments in outlying neighborhoods.

The residential buildings remind me of Sunnyside or Astoria, but the shopping center reminds me of middle-of-Texas suburbia.
That area should be happy it gets anything at all.
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2011, 3:32 AM
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Well, yeah its being developed around former landfill...

http://www.nyc.gov/html/hpd/download...ription-09.pdf

Fresh Creek Urban Renewal Area

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The FCURA, part of the New Lots area of Brooklyn, was first inhabited by Dutch settlers in the 17th and 18th centuries and was primarily rural until the 20th century. The portion of New Lots south of Stanley Avenue was predominantly salt meadows and streams or kills (such as Hendrix Creek and Spring Creek). The meadows remained in agricultural use even while the surrounding East New York neighborhoods grew and developed. The transformation of the FCURA began in the 1930s. Most of the Project Site was used as the Milford Street Landfill until 1950, when municipal landfill operations stopped. After its use as a landfill, the Project Site was used for illegal dumping, and prone to fires, odors, and occasional flooding. However, the public sector was instrumental in transforming the adjacent area. Significant developments included the construction of the Shore Parkway to the south in the 1940s and the 26th Ward Water Pollution Control Plant to the west in the 1950s.

In 1967, the City established the FCURA pursuant to Article 15, Section 504 (“the Urban Renewal Law”) of the General Municipal Law, and HPD was charged with implementing the provisions of the FCURP. The FCURA governed development within the area bounded by Flatlands Avenue on the north, Fountain Avenue on the east, the Shore Parkway on the south, and Schenck Avenue/Hendrix Creek on the west. The FCURP sought to:

• Eliminate blight and maximize appropriate land use;

• Strengthen the tax base of the city by encouraging development and employment opportunities in the area;

• Provide new housing exhibiting good design in terms of privacy, light, air, and open space;

• Provide convenient community facilities, parks and recreational uses, local and regional commercial uses, and parking; and

• Redevelop the area in a comprehensive manner, removing blight and establishing both a residential and regional commercial character for the area, with appropriate support facilities.

Subsequent to approval of the 1967 FCURP, there was limited development within the FCURA. In 1972, the Brooklyn Developmental Center (Block 4586, p/o Lot 300) and its adjacent streets were constructed on the eastern portion of the FCURA, but the balance of the site remained vacant. In 1982, the FCURP was amended to remove Block 4452, Lot 425. By the mid-1990s the only uses that had been developed within the FCURA were the Brooklyn Developmental Center, the 7.7-acre Thomas Jefferson Athletic Field (Block 4451, Lot 1), and certain streets.

In 1996, HPD issued the second amended FCURP along with the Gateway Estates Final Environmental Impact Statement (“1996 FEIS”). The purpose of the second amended FCURP was to implement the land use plan conceived in 1967 when the FCURA was established. The second amended FCURP specified a land use plan for the site and development controls in terms of use, density, and bulk. Accordingly, the City mapped streets and public parklands within the FCURA:

• Residential: Up to 2,385 residential units, consisting of up to 200 senior citizen housing units pending U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development funding, 500 units of Nehemiah housing built by East Brooklyn Congregations, up to 1,475 units for sale or rent to middle-income households, and 125 units to be developed for low- to moderate-income households;

• Retail: Approximately 655,000 square feet (sf) of retail comprised of 15,000 sf of neighborhood-oriented retail and a 640,000-square-foot shopping center with 2,685 accessory parking spaces;

• Community Facilities: 30,000 sf of community facility space, an elementary and an intermediate school (pending funding), and a 4,000 sf nursery school;

• Office: 10,000 sf of professional office space;

• Public Open Space: 45.2 acres of new and improved open space, including a 42.1 acre perimeter park and 3.1 acres of interior parks; and

• Infrastructure: New and improved infrastructure to support the 1996 Plan, including water mains, sewage disposal, drainage, new streets, and a Shore Parkway interchange.

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Old Posted Apr 14, 2011, 3:44 AM
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Meanwhile, this development has become the focal point of another New York battle...

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dai...art-35-million
NYC's Price For A Walmart: $35 Million

BY Adam Lisberg
April 13, 2011

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The battle over Walmart moved to the city’s Department of Housing Preservation and Development Wednesday as the agency considered selling a chunk of city land to developer Related Companies for the new mall the big box chain is eyeing for its first city store, reports Erin Durkin of the Daily News Brooklyn Bureau:

HPD officials conducting the hearing didn't tip their hand, but the sale of 25 acres to Related for $35 million for the Gateway II project in East New York is all but a done deal. The project already passed the City Council, and Mayor Bloomberg supports Walmart’s right to open in the city.

But opponents made a last-ditch effort to convince the city to block the sale, poking technical holes in the city’s appraisal of the property and charging Related only got the project through the Council by falsely claiming they wouldn’t bring in a Walmart.

“They said, ‘Don’t worry about that, we’re not bringing Walmart in,’” said Councilman Charles Barron (D-East New York). “We want this application held up until Related agrees to honor its commitment to the City Council.”

Josh Kellerman of New York Jobs With Justice said the appraisal had technical flaws and demanded a new appraisal before the agency signs off on the deal. “To do any different would be to give away public land without knowing its true value,” he said.

But city officials said the appraisal was done right and argued the sale is crucial so the money can pay for infrastructure for a major affordable housing project also planned at the site.

Related has refused to talk about any negotiations with Walmart, but lawyer Jesse Masyr said HPD should go ahead with the sale because of the 2,200 affordable apartments, 1,700 jobs, and 16 acres of parks the full project will provide.


City business leaders echoed those arguments. “Gateway II will help revitalize this section of Brooklyn,” said Real Estate Board of New York senior vice president Michael Slattery. “The city desperately needs economic development activity that creates jobs.”

Walmart spokesman Steve Restivo said: “Given our longstanding relationships with customers, associates, suppliers, non-profits and other stakeholders across New York City, Walmart applauds any effort by the city to create jobs, spur economic development and improve access to healthy food.”

Opponents have been targeting their anti-Walmart efforts at Related lately - on Friday, a “flash mob” of demonstators showed up at the company’s Time Warner Center headquarters and sang, “Related wants to build a Walmart, we say, no, no, no!” You can watch it below.



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BTW, polls consistantly show most New Yorkers support a Walmart in the city. But I like that rendition....
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2011, 6:56 PM
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Google Earth aerial shows portion of residential deveopment begun (top)









Earlier phase...





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Walmart Says Support Has Grown in NYC

by Brooklyn Eagle
04-13-2011


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Support for Walmart coming to New York City has grown stronger over the past several months, according to a company report.

Since the beginning of the year, more than 33,000 people have “liked” the company’s NYC Facebook page while roughly 80,000 residents have signed a petition expressing their desire to have a Walmart in the city, the report states.

The support is consistent with a recent Quinnipiac University poll as well as endorsements received from elected officials, various community stakeholders and the city’s leading editorial pages, the company said. A new web page — titled “New Yorkers Speak Out” — summarizes the support garnered to date.

“The overwhelming majority of New Yorkers continue to support Walmart and are willing to express that opinion in a number of ways,” said Steven Restivo, director of community affairs. “It’s clear that city residents want to choose where they shop and work and believe Walmart has the potential to create jobs, spur economic development and help lower their cost of living.”

The Walmart-sponsored petition drive started in January and includes people from all five boroughs, according to Restivo. The 33,000 fans to the Facebook page have been logged since Feb. 1, and these surpass the fan total of local landmarks such as the Empire State Building and Rockefeller Center, according to Walmart.

The New Yorkers Speak Out web page also includes statements in support of Walmart by City Council members, other public officials, community leaders and city residents.

“What’s more, the page provides a summary of the recent Quinnipiac poll and links to favorable editorial content from the leading media outlets like the New York Daily News, New York Post and Crain’s New York Business.


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Walmart foes battle retailer's Brooklyn plan
Opponents cite an allegedly low appraisal of the chain's possible East New York site, but appear to be on shaky ground.


By Daniel Massey
April 13, 2011

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Walmart opponents took their campaign to a mayoral hearing Wednesday, trying to delay the transfer of a city-owned parcel in Brooklyn to The Related Cos.

The retailer has had talks with Related about building its first store in the city on the site in East New York, Brooklyn. The property already has City Council approval for retail use. News that the real estate giant would welcome Walmart has opened it up to protests from the retailer's opponents, who want Related to lease to a unionized company like ShopRite.

Walmart foes have persuaded some council members to ask Related not to deal with Walmart and, last Friday, descended upon Related's Time Warner Center headquarters with drums, trumpets and dozens of protesters singing, “Related wants to build a Walmart. We say no, no, no.”

On Wednesday, opponents argued that the $30.5 million appraisal of the 406,000 square-foot parcel was low because it only accounted for the planned retail mall and ignored that the new zoning allows for 3.8 million square feet of commercial development. Related has agreed to pay $35 million.

“Could the developer conceivably build 3.8 million square feet of retail and thereby exponentially increase the value of the land?” asked Josh Kellermann, a policy associate at NY Jobs with Justice and Urban Agenda, part of the Walmart Free NYC coalition, a labor-backed coalition of unions, community groups and small business owners. “We don't know, because the appraiser failed to address this fundamental component of any adequate appraisal.”

Mr. Kellermann called for a delay to any land transfer until a more complete appraisal can be completed.

A Related spokeswoman referred calls to the city's Department of Housing Preservation and Development. The agency's spokesman said that despite the underlying zoning, Related is restricted from building in excess of 620,000 square feet by the urban renewal plan governing the site as well as by its contract with the city. The retail mall will be 620,000 square feet, he said, on what is now city- and state-owned land.

“The appraisal was prepared based on what the developer is permitted to build under this agreement,” the housing department spokesman said.

A spokeswoman for Walmart Free NYC maintained that the appraisal was incomplete and should have included the limits on building outlined by the city housing department.

The retail mall is just a piece of the East New York project, which will also include more than 2,200 units of affordable housing. Construction has begun on more than 550 of those units.
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Talks Intensify for Wal-Mart Lease

BY ELIOT BROWN AND JOSEPH DE AVILA
July 18, 2011

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The Related Cos. is in advanced lease negotiations with Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and J.C. Penney Co. about anchoring a mall in southeast Brooklyn, according to people familiar with the matter.

The outlook for the 630,000-square-foot development—which would accomplish Wal-Mart's longtime goal of opening a location in the city—was boosted by J.C. Penney's strong interest.


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Like yeah right. The people in New York City will kill this Wal Mart like they did to all other Wal Marts.
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Like yeah right. The people in New York City will kill this Wal Mart like they did to all other Wal Marts.
It's not the people that killed Wal-Mart, but the council. But as the development is planned, there's no way for the council to block a Wal-Mart from opening there.

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A Related spokeswoman referred calls to the city's Department of Housing Preservation and Development. The agency's spokesman said that despite the underlying zoning, Related is restricted from building in excess of 620,000 square feet by the urban renewal plan governing the site as well as by its contract with the city. The retail mall will be 620,000 square feet, he said, on what is now city- and state-owned land.
As long as the new shopping center falls under those guidelines, they can bring in pretty much anyone.
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Wal-Mart seems to be quietly on course to make this happen. My cousin works in the legal dept. at the "Home Office" (HQ) in Bentonville and I visited the last week of October, got some off the cuff comments as he introduced me as being from Brooklyn. Photos are prohibited and I didn't want to jeopardize his job by taking surreptitious iphone pics. What I saw were plans for a traditional, single floor "super-center" with acres of parking and no housing, not that Wal-Mart would be involved in the housing, but it simply wasn't shown on any of the schematics hanging on the wall.

The people were all friendly and professional, but there was something very cult-like with oversized photos of Sam Walton hung on the walls everywhere in a four floor building lacking windows. And it turns out he's buried out back! I kid you not.

Apparently part of their strategy is airing more "urban style" commercials in the city, which if you haven't noticed has already started.
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And here's the rub;
I flew into NW Arkansas Airport with well dressed, polite business people of every race, decked out with the latest in Ipads and gadgets. The terminal is modern, clean and coming from LGA, er... civilized. Leaving the terminal every car is new and tasteful. My cousin is gay and it's matter of fact, no problem. He lives in a 3,000ft2 house as do his gay and straight friends. Strung along the highway are 12 story W, Marriott and Hilton hotels, brand new hospitals, shopping centers (including Target) and the nicest, friendliest chain restaurants I've ever been in. Everyone has a job, a bi-racial couple takes photos at the Confederate monument in the center of town, across from Sam Walton's truck enshrined in the Wal-Mart museum. Two miles away on a ped/bike trail into the forested hills the brand new, $1B "Crystal Bridges" Museum of Art, funded in part by Alice Walton, daughter of Sam, is set to open with works from John Singer Sargent, to Winslow Homer, Roy Lichtenstein, Andy Warhol and Claes Oldenburg.

Whew. It's like the best of suburban NJ got together and puked on the Ozarks. And those granite counter, home theater 3,000+ square foot houses? They cost less than 200k, and usually come with a hot tub.

So while I don't want to live there personally, I can understand why all these people who have been made very rich by the Wal-Mart dream don't understand why others resist it. It turns out the Target takes a loss to be there and the last K-Mart recently closed to become a VW dealership, helping in that company's desire to overtake Toyota as the world's biggest automaker.

It's a company town, and no matter how wealthy it gets Sam Walton is still buried out back, so mind your manners. But it has come a long way from backwood hillbillies to a dry county with more gay bars than liquor stores. And if you need a good bottle of wine to take home, the folks 12 miles away on the border in Missouri have a great selection!

They live in a fantasy bubble and don't get Brooklyn at all. But I'm convinced they're not evil.
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This development is heinous.
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Wow, I didn't think this kind of monstrosity happened in NYC. This makes some of the more horrendous proposals in Chicago to shame. At least only a block or two of Chicago is polluted at a time, this creates a massive blemish on the cityscape. I hope they rework the plans and eliminate all the surface parking...
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Wow, I didn't think this kind of monstrosity happened in NYC. This makes some of the more horrendous proposals in Chicago to shame. At least only a block or two of Chicago is polluted at a time, this creates a massive blemish on the cityscape. I hope they rework the plans and eliminate all the surface parking...
It is an unsavory project in many aspects, but keep in mind it's a good eight miles from DT Brooklyn, two miles from JFK and being built on a former landfill, so there really is no "cityscape" to damage. It is also adjacent to the Brooklyn neighborhood with by far the most poverty, crime and unemployment so it's almost a miracle anything at all is being built there. At the very least it should bring jobs and affordable housing to the community where only a massive garbage dump once stood.

Here are some of the completed townhouses (all photos by arnewde.com):









The plan is to plant trees once the majority of the housing is in place, to avoid damage by construction vehicles.
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Off the City owned site but still on the reclaimed landfill, this is the type of affordable housing development happening;


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To put it into better perspective, Gateway is in red on this map of Brooklyn;

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This is the kind of development started on these reclaimed pieces of land back in the early 90's. Two story, single family set way back from the street:

startsandfits.com

Developers started to "get it" in the mid 2000's when these were built:

startsandfits.com

Of course it shouldn't be forgotten all of this is a reaction to the massive, Corbusier "towers in the park" nightmare that is much of East New York/Brownsville...



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Wow, I didn't think this kind of monstrosity happened in NYC. This makes some of the more horrendous proposals in Chicago to shame. At least only a block or two of Chicago is polluted at a time, this creates a massive blemish on the cityscape. I hope they rework the plans and eliminate all the surface parking...
While I'm no fan of this type of auto-friendy development, this is landfill on the very edge of Brooklyn, and just off a freeway exit. It would make no sense whatsoever to put the parking underground.

They wouldn't even build underground parking in Western Europe or Japan or wherever, when we're talking suburban-style freeway big box.

And not sure why you're bringing up Chicago. They have the exact same building typology (ugly strip mall with tons of free surface parking) all over downtown Chicago even, in places like River North, western Lincoln Park, South Loop, Old Town, etc.

In NYC, this type of development typology is rather rare, and typically restricted to parts of Staten Island, and along freeway exits on the outer fringes of Brooklyn and Queens. This site is basically the "I-94 next to Lake Calumet" of NYC.
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