Saskatoon and Regina Air Service

[UPP]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I never said that voting out Goodale is why Regina may lose service. All I am saying is losing Goodale for Kram does more harm for us than good. Especially for those of us who realize the Cons have little chance of forming a majority any time soon thanks to their continuing concentration on the prairies (and they couldn't even defeat a scandal-ridden Trudeau in 2019).

Also, it would make absolutely no sense to think Goodale has more power now than he would as not only an MP, but as the highest-ranking member of cabinet, as he was prior to the last election. And your comment about Calgary... seriously? They are the western hub for WestJet in a city of 1.3M plus. They clearly don't need any political help. That was a silly analogy.

Then why post about Kram vs Goodale in a thread about a loss of air service in Regina?

Hey, I have absolutely nothing against Ralph, in fact, I probably voted for him before you were born. And yes, considering he was appointed by the Liberal government to head the commission into the Ukraine Airline crash leads me to believe that he still holds a lot of weight with the current government.

But please, carry on with your lib vs con schtick in the YQR/YXE Air service thread

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by UPP

Then why post about Kram vs Goodale in a thread about a loss of air service in Regina?

Hey, I have absolutely nothing against Ralph, in fact, I probably voted for him before you were born. And yes, considering he was appointed by the Liberal government to head the commission into the Ukraine Airline crash leads me to believe that he still holds a lot of weight with the current government.

But please, carry on with your lib vs con schtick in the YQR/YXE Air service thread

Thanks, I will. Though it’s not a lib vs con schtick (I am more left than the NDP) as much as it is pointing out people in Sask continually voting against their own best interests schtick.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

people in Sask continually voting against their own best interests schtick.

Are you suggesting Saskatchewan voters supported the Conservatives expecting them to lose? If 19 seats had gone a different way, all those people suddenly would have had a voice in the government. Besides, if a Regina representative has legitimate reasons for the Liberal government to intervene in this situation, that person should be listened to despite their political alignment.

I think you're conflating your opinion with what is in Saskatchewanians' best interests. Even if those two things are the same, it's still subjective.

[Festivus]

Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

Are you suggesting Saskatchewan voters supported the Conservatives expecting them to lose? If 19 seats had gone a different way, all those people suddenly would have had a voice in the government. Besides, if a Regina representative has legitimate reasons for the Liberal government to intervene in this situation, that person should be listened to despite their political alignment.

I think you're conflating your opinion with what is in Saskatchewanians' best interests. Even if those two things are the same, it's still subjective.

I think the main thing to take away from of all of this is that it's not wise for any region to elect 100% of their MPs from a single party. If you elect all opposition members then you don't have any voice in government (worst-case, like we have now). If you elect all government members, then you risk being taken for granted if it happens for too long. The best place to be is in a competitive region where it goes back and forth so that the governments listen to you.

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

Are you suggesting Saskatchewan voters supported the Conservatives expecting them to lose? If 19 seats had gone a different way, all those people suddenly would have had a voice in the government. Besides, if a Regina representative has legitimate reasons for the Liberal government to intervene in this situation, that person should be listened to despite their political alignment.

I think you're conflating your opinion with what is in Saskatchewanians' best interests. Even if those two things are the same, it's still subjective.

Politics is subjective? You don’t say!? I’m sorry, but the Conservatives do not have our best interests in mind. Goodale actually made many things happen for Regina and our province and did not deserve the hit job the Conservatives did to him which saw Andrew Scheer campaign with Kram, which is an unusual situation for a leader of a party to do to a senior member of the opposition. I may be politically opposite of the Cons but I grew up here and I know this city and province. The Cons don’t give a shit about oil workers or farmers or any of us. If you think by rallying against the carbon tax or federal equalization means they are on your side, I have a bridge to sell to you. The Liberals aren’t much better but Goodale was more than just his party. If this socialist can see that, any conservative that can think for themselves could as well.

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by Festivus

I think the main thing to take away from of all of this is that it's not wise for any region to elect 100% of their MPs from a single party. If you elect all opposition members then you don't have any voice in government (worst-case, like we have now). If you elect all government members, then you risk being taken for granted if it happens for too long. The best place to be is in a competitive region where it goes back and forth so that the governments listen to you.

Also, this. The concentration of the conservative vote here, which I have witnessed over the past 20 years under mostly disingenuous, Trump-like ways, will absolutely not help us in the long run. Today’s conservatives in power want to exploit everything they can and move on. We are going to be an economic wasteland by the time people finally realize we actually need some effective government to make sure we reinvest in and sustain our quality of living for generations to come instead of just allowing our wealth to be off-shored. How is this not obvious to everyone by now?

[one_brick_at_a_time]

I am hoping that during this down time, and the fact that Porter has saved more money by not flying currently, will allow for possible western expansion when things open back up flying wise. Would love a Western HUB airport that their Q400 can fly to from Toronto and then use A220 service from that hub to western Canada (Regina and Saskatoon included). I know previously they were looking at Thunder Bay. If the connection wasn’t too long and same or better price, I wouldn’t mind it not being non-stop from Toronto.

[PhotoJim]

Originally Posted by one_brick_at_a_time

I am hoping that during this down time, and the fact that Porter has saved more money by not flying currently, will allow for possible western expansion when things open back up flying wise. Would love a Western HUB airport that their Q400 can fly to from Toronto and then use A220 service from that hub to western Canada (Regina and Saskatoon included). I know previously they were looking at Thunder Bay. If the connection wasn’t too long and same or better price, I wouldn’t mind it not being direct from Toronto.

Note: "direct" means same-plane service in the airline industry, but not necessarily non-stop. Toronto-Thunder Bay-Regina on one plane counts as direct.

[one_brick_at_a_time]

Originally Posted by PhotoJim

Note: "direct" means same-plane service in the airline industry, but not necessarily non-stop. Toronto-Thunder Bay-Regina on one plane counts as direct.

Thanks for the note.

[The Bess]

At least we get some good news once in awhile

https://www.ckom.com/2021/02/11/flai...arting-in-may/

[Draftsman]

MP Michael Kram is sponsoring a petition to save YQR - Regina International Airport.

Please go to www.saveyqr.ca to add your name to the petition, if you wish.

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by Draftsman

MP Michael Kram is sponsoring a petition to save YQR - Regina International Airport.

Please go to www.saveyqr.ca to add your name to the petition, if you wish.

I also agree to be contacted in the future for similar events or political organizing activities.

Hard pass.

Do we really need a petition to save an airport for a provincial capital city of 230k+ people? Some how I don’t think this is going to accomplish anything.

[one_brick_at_a_time]

If you don’t want Michael Kram emails you can sign the change.org petition .

+6000 signatures so far.

https://www.change.org/p/federal-gov...7323-en-ca%3A1

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by one_brick_at_a_time

If you don’t want Michael Kram emails you can sign the change.org petition .

+6000 signatures so far.

https://www.change.org/p/federal-gov...7323-en-ca%3A1

That’s better

Edit: the reason it’s better is that companies actually have to abide by privacy laws, whereas political parties do not.

[McBean]

I can't see how the capital city of Saskatchewan could lose it's control tower and basically lose most of it's service moving forward.

[EDM753Fan]

I'm suddenly noticing that AC is flying YQR-YXE. Is this a new thing? I don't remember this in the past?

Or is this due to the control tower situation somehow?

[PhotoJim]

Originally Posted by EDM753Fan

I'm suddenly noticing that AC is flying YQR-YXE. Is this a new thing? I don't remember this in the past?

Or is this due to the control tower situation somehow?

It comes and goes. In the past it's been a Regina/Saskatoon-Ottawa flight that stops in the other Sask. city on the way. Lately it's been a Toronto flight.

You can book tickets on the Regina-Saskatoon or Saskatoon-Regina segments, but the flight really isn't intended to serve the route per se, though these days with so few flights, AC might sell connections on it to other cities.

[EDM753Fan]

Originally Posted by PhotoJim

It comes and goes. In the past it's been a Regina/Saskatoon-Ottawa flight that stops in the other Sask. city on the way. Lately it's been a Toronto flight.

You can book tickets on the Regina-Saskatoon or Saskatoon-Regina segments, but the flight really isn't intended to serve the route per se, though these days with so few flights, AC might sell connections on it to other cities.

Ah gottit. Thanks that helps. I do recall the YOW flight. If only we had that to YUL. This is looking increasingly unlikely as things aren't getting better as of yet...

[PhotoJim]

Originally Posted by EDM753Fan

Ah gottit. Thanks that helps. I do recall the YOW flight. If only we had that to YUL. This is looking increasingly unlikely as things aren't getting better as of yet...

When we had the Ottawa flight, Regina's and Saskatoon's left non-stop for YOW simultaneously, then stopped for 25 minutes and continued to Montreal and Halifax, respectively. I flew to Halifax that way once and it was the next-best thing to a non-stop, even with the connection, since it was in the gate right beside, and it was so short.

[casper]

Originally Posted by PhotoJim

When we had the Ottawa flight, Regina's and Saskatoon's left non-stop for YOW simultaneously, then stopped for 25 minutes and continued to Montreal and Halifax, respectively. I flew to Halifax that way once and it was the next-best thing to a non-stop, even with the connection, since it was in the gate right beside, and it was so short.

This is going back a few years. Fastest route Between Saskatoon and London Heathrow was Saskatoon-Ottawa-Halifax-Heathrow.

Makes no sense, but the way the schedule worked that was the case.