NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS - Page 1072

Roadcruiser1 · #**21421** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 7:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by babou95

I have a question,
Why they don't make an observation deck at the top of the tower ?

There is an indoor observation deck at floors 100, 101, and 102, but there is no outdoor observation deck because of the telecommunication rings. Same question that has been answered a lot. This one can be found by going back a few pages.

NewYorkSkyline117 · #**21422** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 7:29 PM**

Okay here are some new questions that weren't answered:

-What "Real" floor are we at, 80?
-And how will the roof/parapet be constructed?

Roadcruiser1 · #**21423** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 7:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by NewYorkSkyline117

Okay here are some new questions that weren't answered:

-What "Real" floor are we at, 80?
-And how will the roof/parapet be constructed?

1) 93M and 100 (95 and 96).

2) They will just top it off, and put up the parapet. Even the Twin Towers had one and the same method was done back then. They will just deck it like a normal floor.

THE BIG APPLE · #**21424** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 8:33 PM**

Everyone's making things so complicated when it's not. It's SIMPLE. This building is actually 88 floors. Why? Isn't the lobby/base equivalent to 20 floors? Correct. 20 plus 88 is equal to 108 floors. Hey wait a minute. This building is 108 floors. It's so simple yet made so complicated by people who don't KNOW how to explain.

steveve · #**21425** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 8:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

~vivian~

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LOVE the geometry of the tower from this angle. it's just perfect. some angles of this tower make it look too fat, too angled, etc... but this is just the perfect balance of slant, and sleekness

SoaringSkylines · #**21426** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 8:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1

Again I will use Otie's picture to demonstrate the top. All credits go to Otie, but the same questions need to be stopped. The same questions about the top keeps being repeated. The answers are a few pages back. Look back and your questions are answered.

My goodness! I never realized how close we are to topping out!

jd3189 · #**21427** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 8:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by THE BIG APPLE

Everyone's making things so complicated when it's not. It's SIMPLE. This building is actually 88 floors. Why? Isn't the lobby/base equivalent to 20 floors? Correct. 20 plus 88 is equal to 108 floors. Hey wait a minute. This building is 108 floors. It's so simple yet made so complicated by people who don't KNOW how to explain.

Wish it was 110, but 108 is close. If the spire plan is dropped, we could add floors to the spire since it's big enough. Could even add floors in the telecommunication rings. But that's just my imagination.

NewYorkSkyline117 · #**21428** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 8:54 PM**

Wait, won't the building at night look awkward where the office lights meet with the mechanical floors? The building will look cut

Roadcruiser1 · #**21429** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 9:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by NewYorkSkyline117

Wait, won't the building at night look awkward where the office lights meet with the mechanical floors? The building will look cut

Not really. Credits to WTC.COM.

More from Dbox. Credits to them.

NewYorkSkyline117 · #**21430** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 10:02 PM**

Sorry Carlos, I can take it down if you want, but I blended two of your images together from September 2011 until this week to show the progress

Otie · #**21431** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 10:18 PM**

Thanks Roadcruiser for contributing, though there are some points to clear:

Again, Tower One has 85 real floors with 10 mezzanines. They skip floors and designate mainteinance levels as floors in order to reach the 110th mark.
The roof is composed of two elements: the roof slab and the rooftop parapet. The top of perimeter structure will go all the way up to the top of parapet and basically consists of the same type of structure as the rest of the tower.
The rendering you posted is a bit old and innacurate (just look at the communication ring ). This one's better.

One WTC | Floor Schedule by Otie O'Daniel, on Flickr

NewYorkSkyline117 · #**21432** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 10:27 PM**

Otie, when can you do another one of those renderings where it is compared to the Empire State Building, and I think it was 7 wtc? it showed how much was filled in

SoaringSkylines · #**21433** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 10:45 PM**

Where will the window washing machine go? Or will this building even have one?

NYguy · #**21434** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 10:48 PM**

^ It will be up on the "ring".

beanhead4529

Emilio Guerra

Dave84 · #**21435** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 10:49 PM**

Does it really need that many mechanical floors? just seems like an awful lot . . . it would be great if from 103 to 104m was open to the public ie restaurant.

Roadcruiser1 · #**21436** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 10:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by SoaringSkylines

Where will the window washing machine go? Or will this building even have one?

And yes this tower will have a window washing machine.

Otie · #**21437** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 10:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by SoaringSkylines

Where will the window washing machine go? Or will this building even have one?

Yes, it is located just below the communication platform ring. It consists of 3 circular tracks attached to the communications ring supporting frame that will allow three window washing cranes ride on. three The window washing track is the main reason why it is imposible to have an outdoor observation deck.

Communicatons Platform Ring structure @ 1WTC by Otie O'Daniel, on Flickr
*Parapet, catwalks, vents and remaining structural elements not shown.

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Originally Posted by Dave84

Does it really need that many mechanical floors? just seems like an awful lot . . . it would be great if from 103 to 104m was open to the public ie restaurant.

I'd say it needs more space for mechanical, this building is self-contained, meaning that it has everything it needs inside the structure, as opposed to the twins that had a big amount of mechanical equipment around them. Add to the fact that it is ment to be one of the greenest and safest skyscraper in the world.

@NYSkyline I'll try to update the diagram

NewYorkSkyline117 · #**21438** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 10:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Otie

Yes, it is located just below the communication platform ring. It consists of 3 circular tracks attached to the communications ring supporting frame that will allow three window washing cranes ride on. three The window washing track is the main reason why it is imposible to have an outdoor observation deck.

@NYSkyline I'll try to update the diagram

Awesome

Modulair · #**21439** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 10:57 PM**

Correct me if i'm wrong, but as i've undestood, the freedom tower will have around 75 REAL floors.
It's simple to say that the cubic base is 20 floor-high, but actually it has... 6 floors. Not 20.
Same for the floors from 93 to 101: where are they ? even if they have the height of two normal floors, they are not two...
There are not "ghost floors": they are or they are not.

It's like for the eiffel tower: it's 325 meters high, if we thought like the builders of the WTC we'd say "eiffel tower is 70-floor-high so it has 70 floors"...

...eiffel tower has just 3 floors.

the twin towers had 110 real fllors each one...
they were bigger in volume...

Zapatan · #**21440** Posted **Mar 16, 2012, 11:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Modulair

Correct me if i'm wrong, but as i've undestood, the freedom tower will have around 75 REAL floors.
It's simple to say that the cubic base is 20 floor-high, but actually it has... 6 floors. Not 20.
Same for the floors from 93 to 101: where are they ? even if they have the height of two normal floors, they are not two...
There are not "ghost floors": they are or they are not.

It's like for the eiffel tower: it's 325 meters high, if we thought like the builders of the WTC we'd say "eiffel tower is 70-floor-high so it has 70 floors"...

...eiffel tower has just 3 floors.

the twin towers had 110 real fllors each one...
they were bigger in volume...

It has 92 real floors, not 75