[Surrey] Georgetown | 6, 15, 30, 31, 32, 39, 41, 45 fl | U/C & Proposed

[Westbased]

Exterior work is underway now and signage around the site is starting to go up!

[rpvan]

Originally Posted by Westbased

Exterior work is underway now and signage around the site is starting to go up!

Any further updates? I really hope construction will be well underway by next spring or summer.

[Nites]

Originally Posted by rpvan

Any further updates? I really hope construction will be well underway by next spring or summer.

The signage/fence is installed surrounding the area. Other then that not much has been done.

[MOOVA]

Possibly new info?

PROJECT DETAILS
Address: 13645-102 Avenue, Surrey, BC

Building Type: 30 storey concrete highrise with commercial ground level units

Amenities: 30,000 sq ft of amenity space

-24 hour concierge
-Study room
-Yoga studio
-Fitness room
-Kitchen & dining lounge
-Outdoor dining & lounge
-Outdoor amenity garden
-Outdoor theatre
-Outdoor table tennis
-Guest suite
-Fenced dog run

Unit Type: Studio, one bedroom, & two bedroom condos

Features:

-Two designer colour schemes
-Laminate flooring
-European - Bosch & Blomberg - stainless steel appliances(24")
-Contemporary kitchen with quartz countertops & backsplash
-Blomberg front-loading washer and vent-less dryer
-National 2-5-10 New Home Warranty

Pricing: 190 homes under $400,000 with studios starting at $249,900, one bedrooms starting at $299,900, and two bedrooms starting at $499,900

Estimated Completion Date: Autumn 2022

Deposit: 20% in total for VIP purchasers

Status: Georgetown One condo presales are coming soon. Launch expected mid February 2019.

[Westbased]

Wow they really sharpened their pencils on the starting prices there...

[osirisboy]

I thought this area was part of the downtown area of Surrey? This all looks very suburban to me

[officedweller]

Yeah, the built form should be more like ONNI's Coquitlam project:

http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2019/0...entre-project/

[Vin]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Yeah, the built form should be more like ONNI's Coquitlam project:

http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2019/0...entre-project/

Not really. The Coquitlam project has all those tall towers on top a huge retail podium built up to the sidewalk. It will be very urban and have a downtown feel to it.

The Surrey project will feel more suburban.

[osirisboy]

I think that's what he was saying

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

I thought this area was part of the downtown area of Surrey? This all looks very suburban to me

I suppose Surrey never imposed any regulations against it?

[officedweller]

To repeat...

Originally Posted by officedweller

Yeah, the built form should be more like ONNI's Coquitlam project:

http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2019/0...entre-project/

[EhJay]

Didn't realize the mcdonalds and gas station weren't part of Georgetown land. Kinda unfortunate.

[Nites]

Originally Posted by EhJay

Didn't realize the mcdonalds and gas station weren't part of Georgetown land. Kinda unfortunate.

It's super expensive to build on top of a former gas station site and it takes years and years to do so apparently.

[Shift]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

I thought this area was part of the downtown area of Surrey? This all looks very suburban to me

The only tower that has gone through detailed design and ADP is Georgetown One.

Each of the subsequent phases will have their own separate DP application, detailed design / ADP process. The general concept will remain the same, but expect refinement as each phase progresses. That plan is mostly artistic placeholder at this stage.

Also important to distinguish - the Phase One site looks very green because it's all green roof.

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by Shift

The only tower that has gone through detailed design and ADP is Georgetown One.
Each of the subsequent phases will have their own separate DP application, detailed design / ADP process. The general concept will remain the same, but expect refinement as each phase progresses. That plan is mostly artistic placeholder at this stage.

Also important to distinguish - the Phase One site looks very green because it's all green roof.

Would the plan really change so drastically in all that time to cluster in more towers?

This area is in the area zoned as FAR 3.5. Perhaps more aggressive zoning should have been put in place?

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by Shift

The only tower that has gone through detailed design and ADP is Georgetown One.
Each of the subsequent phases will have their own separate DP application, detailed design / ADP process. The general concept will remain the same, but expect refinement as each phase progresses. That plan is mostly artistic placeholder at this stage.

Also important to distinguish - the Phase One site looks very green because it's all green roof.

Would the plan really change so drastically in all that time to cluster in more towers?

This area is in the area zoned as FAR 3.5, unlike most of the other developments right now, which are @5.5+. Perhaps more aggressive zoning should have been put in place?

[GMasterAres]

I don't quite understand why people think this will be suburban feel.

Because there will be some trees along the sidewalk? I mean seriously look at the planning report, there will be a retail wall along the sidewalk and road, with 0 setback.

Planning report: https://www.surrey.ca/bylawsandcounc...16-0448-00.pdf

The final design is likely not 100% to this btw because after the report there is still work that is done.

The design of the road interface is how Surrey is moving forward with their separated bike and pedestrian lanes. If you want an example, go look at the work they've done along 100th Avenue by Infinity/Park Place/Park Avenue. That is the plan moving forward. But just because they are adding some trees to the equation doesn't mean it will feel suburban. The setback again is effectively 0 and the actual planning report shows the rest of the project will be built the same and that future phases may have 3-5 storey retail/commercial walls against the roadway which is no different than downtown or even Broadway.

Don't freak out over 1 render that is wrong anyway (note no drive through for McDonalds and a "road" connecting where the drive through is currently) and meant just for marketing bullshit "overview" stuff that nobody really pays attention to.

[GMasterAres]

Originally Posted by Shift

The only tower that has gone through detailed design and ADP is Georgetown One.

Each of the subsequent phases will have their own separate DP application, detailed design / ADP process. The general concept will remain the same, but expect refinement as each phase progresses. That plan is mostly artistic placeholder at this stage.

Also important to distinguish - the Phase One site looks very green because it's all green roof.

Yes thank you. It looks green because marketers have this addicted fixation with dropping "tree" icons on every thing they render, even on the roof of buildings that would never have trees on them. People need to start realizing this.

Heck we've had laughs over recent projects in Surrey that have, in their marketing material, completely omitted HIGH RISES across the street and in their place stuck "parks" to make it look all "parky" and green.

Don't believe the marketing people. Look at the planning reports, they are your best guide to the general design even though things get refined after the reports are published.

[GMasterAres]

Originally Posted by fredinno

Would the plan really change so drastically in all that time to cluster in more towers?

This area is in the area zoned as FAR 3.5. Perhaps more aggressive zoning should have been put in place?

That's a different discussion entirely. My stance has been that the FAR designations in Surrey Central are ridiculously low anyway. You couldn't build 90% of the high-rises in downtown Portland even with the FAR restrictions in place in the plan.

If Surrey wants to be a downtown, it needs to bump all the FAR restirctions +8.

So 3.5 zone becomes 11.5, 6 zone becomes 14. Shangri-la downtown Vancouver is something like FAR 13.5 as an example.

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by jhausner

That's a different discussion entirely. My stance has been that the FAR designations in Surrey Central are ridiculously low anyway. You couldn't build 90% of the high-rises in downtown Portland even with the FAR restrictions in place in the plan.

If Surrey wants to be a downtown, it needs to bump all the FAR restirctions +8.

So 3.5 zone becomes 11.5, 6 zone becomes 14. Shangri-la downtown Vancouver is something like FAR 13.5 as an example.

+8 is way too tall to start with, as these are also minimum requirements. You run the risk of developers being too scared to take such a risk. +3 FAR perhaps?