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Old Posted Jun 10, 2015, 9:54 PM
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How did he manage to bind and padlock his own wrists?


Here's 8640 Wonderland Avenue as it appears today.


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http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/86...20800185_zpid/

Nary a word on the bathing suit 'suicide'.
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Wonderland Avenue seems to have had its share of bizarre deaths.

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Old Posted Jun 11, 2015, 12:28 AM
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We've had several mentions of the 'Brass Rail' at 334 S. Hill St.

photo here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23849



...but have we seen Perry's Brass Rail in Hollywood?


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info: 1933

reverse of photo.


below: I found this in the 1936 directory; but I'm not sure if this is Perry's.


http://rescarta.lapl.org/ResCarta-We...00003/00000002

Soooooo....what building, near Hollywood and Vine, housed Perry's Brass Rail?
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2015, 12:46 AM
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As long as I'm asking questions ......
Does anyone familiar with the Monterey Park area recognize this community church?

(perhaps the highway signs at far left offer a clue to it's location)
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Another, older view. Looks like it's long gone-- apparently 60/70/99 ran along Garvey Avenue in the late '30s. So I'm going to say that the church was at the NW corner of Garvey & Baltimore. Here is the corner today--this may be true of a million corners, but note how the street still rises to meet the very corner, sloping off down the streets toward the drains on each side....



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Esther Williams fetish?



December 15, 1953

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...dark-past.html

"This man deliberately prolonged the death process by creating an elaborate system of cords, candles and weights. A detective is measuring a cord stretched taut, from the body to a point near the living room couch, while patrol cops and another detective are viewing the body, dressed in a woman's swimsuit."

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Cute detailing on the suit but the athletic socks were a poor choice. Shoulda gone with peds.
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2015, 1:52 AM
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GaylordWilshire wrote:
"Apparently 60/70/99 ran along Garvey Avenue in the 1930s."

thx GW. I wasn't sure how the trio of highway signs related to the actual location of the church. (I'm a bit slow at times)
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Recently found on eBay: "An excursion by the Los Angeles Chamber of Congress to Honolulu (1920s?)"


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I'm not sure, but I believe the ship is the S.S. Los Angeles.




I just found this photograph of the S.S. Los Angeles. Same ship? -it only makes sense.


http://maritimematters.com/wp-conten...dockingHon.jpg

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Cute detailing on the suit but the athletic socks were a poor choice.
I don't think those are socks MR....they're 'booties'.


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I don't think those are socks MR....they're 'booties'.


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Okay, that makes more sense. With the bathing cap, the booties tie the whole outfit together, although two inch kitten heels would have...well, never mind. Thanks.
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2015, 2:32 AM
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Here's something I wasn't aware of....



Disneyland had a Hill's Bros. 'Coffee Garden' in the Town Square, circa 1959.


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So where in the Town Square was this located? I can't picture it at all.
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ER & GW, my family moved to Monterey Park in 1954, and my wife's family settled there in 1947. Neither of us have any recollection of the Community Church (or any other frame residential structure) on Garvey Ave. My recollection of the site at the NW corner of Garvey and Baltimore in the 1960s is that it was a Wilshire Oil service station. Sorry that I can't be more precise.
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Here's something I wasn't aware of....



Disneyland had a Hill's Bros. 'Coffee Garden' in the Town Square, circa 1959.


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So where in the Town Square was this located? I can't picture it at all.
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When I went there in 1956 it was the Maxwell House Coffee shop. A year or two later Hill's Bros had taken over the franchise. I remember it because my mother and aunt would wait for us there while my brother, our cousin and I went around doing kid things.
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thx for the background information oldstuff.

Nicolai and Fanny's former home on Chadwick Drive with it's mini Robin Hood 'tower'.


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Here's my version of 4247 Melrose Avenue.


gsv



A nice view of the back.



There's a building next door (to the east) that is probably part of the Crossfit 'complex'. It features the same yellow diagonal stripes
that appear on the main building.


gsv

This building still has an interesting 1950s (40?) bar facade, with the curved glass blocks on either side of the entrance.
Does anyone know if this was, in fact, a former bar?

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E_R, that building was indeed a bar, at least in the 1970's. My dad used to have a business further west on Melrose and I would pass by it 2-3 times a week. Back then, the entire facade was painted flat charcoal black, the name or logo of the bar was at one time painted red, if I recall correctly...then later, maybe it had a silver dollar ("Silver Dollar Saloon"?) but for the life of me, I can't remember the name of the place...I do remember hearing the loud music that played...you could hear it as you drove past...
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A simpler time.




1938 - Several "Chiefs" at Le Grande Station

http://econtent.unm.edu/cdm/singleit.../12506/rec/165



And Hudsons pulling freight cars. (Could this have also contributed to the demise of rail? )


1934

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/44439/rec/7
















Did Gasometers qualify for Sag cards?


Screen grab from 1947 - Cass Timberlane. Spencer Tracy, Lana Turner and Two Gasometers. http://dearoldhollywood.blogspot.com...locations.html
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There's a building next door (to the east) that is probably part of the Crossfit 'complex'. It features the same yellow diagonal stripes
that appear on the main building.


gsv

This building still has an interesting 1950s (40?) bar facade, with the curved glass blocks on either side of the entrance.
Does anyone know if this was, in fact, a former bar?
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E_R, that building was indeed a bar, at least in the 1970's. My dad used to have a business further west on Melrose and I would pass by it 2-3 times a week. Back then, the entire facade was painted flat charcoal black, the name or logo of the bar was at one time painted red, if I recall correctly...then later, maybe it had a silver dollar ("Silver Dollar Saloon"?) but for the life of me, I can't remember the name of the place...I do remember hearing the loud music that played...you could hear it as you drove past...
The building in question appears to be 4216 Melrose Avenue. I found a build date of 1947 on sfrealtors.com.

The 1956 CD lists it as Petta's Italian Restaurant and Stein's Restaurant & Cocktail. The address is missing from the next couple of CDs, but it reappears as The Rogue in 1963, and becomes The Red Rogue by 1967. It's still The Red Rogue in 1973. The 1987 entry just says Stud.

It now seems to be a gay bar called Faultline. I'm guessing that Stud may also have been a gay bar, but I don't know about the Rogue years. From last month's TimeOut review (it's a critics' pick):

Ripe with the smell of pheromones and dried sweat, rather than the latest Gucci scent, Faultline prides itself in carrying on the tradition of the “men’s bar.” So if bellies, beards and tattoos make the man for you, then program your GPS for Faultline.

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Does anyone familiar with the Monterey Park area recognize this community church?

(perhaps the highway signs at far left offer a clue to it's location)
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Looks like it's long gone-- apparently 60/70/99 ran along Garvey Avenue in the late '30s. So I'm going to say that the church was at the NW corner of Garvey & Baltimore.
I think the 1948 aerial on the left shows the community church. It's gone by 1952. The lot then stays fairly empty until the current building shows up on the 2003 image.


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Times July 26, 1952


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The building in question appears to be 4216 Melrose Avenue. I found a build date of 1947 on sfrealtors.com.

The 1956 CD lists it as Petta's Italian Restaurant and Stein's Restaurant & Cocktail. The address is missing from the next couple of CDs, but it reappears as The Rogue in 1963, and becomes The Red Rogue by 1967. It's still The Red Rigue in 1973. The 1987 entry just says Stud.

It now seems to be a gay bar called Faultline. I'm guessing that Stud may also have been a gay bar, but I don't know about the Rogue years. From last month's TimeOut review (it's a critics' pick):

Ripe with the smell of pheromones and dried sweat, rather than the latest Gucci scent, Faultline prides itself in carrying on the tradition of the “men’s bar.” So if bellies, beards and tattoos make the man for you, then program your GPS for Faultline.
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1938 - Several "Chiefs" at Le Grande Station

http://econtent.unm.edu/cdm/singleit.../12506/rec/165
I believe the 'Chief' on the ground is Daniel Simmons, better known in film circles as Chief Yowlachie.
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