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Old Posted Nov 7, 2017, 3:09 AM
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I like the facade, but I don't like that 90% of the sheer wall side glass isn't an actual window.
Why does it matter? It will be as it climbs. It is not on lower floors for structural reasons. You'd rather see a blank wall there?
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Has anyone seen any interior renderings yet of what the top units might look like?
They've been posted here before.


https://ny.curbed.com/2016/3/25/1130...cing-floorplan










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Why does it matter? It will be as it climbs. It is not on lower floors for structural reasons. You'd rather see a blank wall there?
Right, that wall is helping to keep the building up.
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Good lord! Those interior renderings are flawless. A few questions though. Doesn't it appear at least one of the setbacks will become an outdoor patio if those renderings are still correct? I am not sure there is anywhere in this building to place an open patio other than the setbacks. And what is the deal with the expansive windows? I guess I assumed these small windows were what would follow the building to the top. But it's pretty clear they will change and become much larger towards the top at some point.
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Good lord! Those interior renderings are flawless. A few questions though. Doesn't it appear at least one of the setbacks will become an outdoor patio if those renderings are still correct? I am not sure there is anywhere in this building to place an open patio other than the setbacks. And what is the deal with the expansive windows? I guess I assumed these small windows were what would follow the building to the top. But it's pretty clear they will change and become much larger towards the top at some point.
Maybe for the more expensive penthouses?
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i wonder if the facade crew has any bets going vs the building crew?

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Maybe for the more expensive penthouses?
Agree, I am not an engineer but I would guess the floors at the top wouldn't need as much concrete support so they could open the windows up.
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umm.

yeah.

i could live there.
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It looks like a youthful Sophia Loren plans to enjoy one of the balconies
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There are two "down-sides" to the pic posted above:

1.The Park Lane Hotel's uglier side...as if there's just one???

2. The rising 53W53(?**) will block the North Shore Towers in the extreme distance. Each building rises to exactly 300' (a chimney on one tower adds 40 feet) on the highest point of land in Queens; and they also mark the border of Nassau County.

Actually point #2 will cancel out point #1; so no loss, save to demonstrate how powerful the camera used to take the shot is.

I'm sure if the camera pointed a bit eastward it'd be entirely possible to see the 600' LIPA stacks not far from me (CDP/hamlet of Fort Salonga, Huntington/Smithtown township border, Suffolk County) about 60 miles away as the crow flies out the photographer's window.

Last edited by Prezrezc; Nov 10, 2017 at 3:11 PM. Reason: **Is that Tower Verre UC what I'm talking about?
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The small windows are on the east and west sides, and the huge windows are on the north and south sides. The east and west sides are shear walls to make the large windows possible. As stated above, the number of small windows per floor rises as the building rises and narrows.

The outdoor patios will be at the setbacks. There will be 4 such patios within residences (at floors 83, 80, 76, and 64) and possibly 3 others at the open windbreaks which are on setback floors (at floors 86, 71, and 51). There may be other patios in the upper mechanical levels above the 88th floor, at what would be floors 89 and 91. Above that, the last 3 setbacks are part of the ornamental crown.
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This is now my official favorite 1000'+ tower to rise......ever.

No hyperbole.

Given the names, places and dates that can be arguably cited, that's a bold claim if I do say so myself...which I just did.

The crown/lattice-work at the top will be fascinating to watch being put up in real life.
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These towers are incredible and the interiors are breath taking but it always pisses me off as to how most of the time these apartments and condos will be empty, as the rich snobs who own them probably have dozens of rental properties all over the world. I wonder what the full time occupancy rate is on towers like this and 432 Park Place. Is there any data on that kind of thing, full time occupancy vs those who use them only as investments.
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Old Posted Nov 13, 2017, 1:38 AM
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Good lord! Those interior renderings are flawless. A few questions though. Doesn't it appear at least one of the setbacks will become an outdoor patio if those renderings are still correct? I am not sure there is anywhere in this building to place an open patio other than the setbacks. And what is the deal with the expansive windows? I guess I assumed these small windows were what would follow the building to the top. But it's pretty clear they will change and become much larger towards the top at some point.
The north and south elevations are completely different from the east and west. Those are the "money" views, and yes the setbacks would be where the terraces are.


This is the presentation we watched way back, but about 10 minutes in they start on the setbacks and the facade. It's worth watching again to get a better understanding of the design.


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This building is hands down incomparable to any other in NYC. When complete it will clearly raise the bar on anything to be built in the future yet, sadly I fear it is unlikely to have many rivals for years to come. Truly stunning.
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Using five words or less, "game changer" is definitely the best way to describe this tower in every aspect.
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