Surrey Langley Skytrain - Expo Line Extension | Proposed - Page 322

fredinno · #**6421** Posted **Dec 11, 2018, 9:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by flipper316

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...osts-1.4940561

So is this thing going to Langley or not? Why can't there ever be a clear answer from these dumb politicians? Doug said he can get this built with the current 1.65 billion LRT budget. So who's lying?

Doug; there's not enough money in the Translink-proposed budget yet even if you removed all of the 25% margin.

CanSpice · #**6422** Posted **Dec 11, 2018, 9:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by flipper316

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...osts-1.4940561

So is this thing going to Langley or not? Why can't there ever be a clear answer from these dumb politicians? Doug said he can get this built with the current 1.65 billion LRT budget. So who's lying?

Doug is. I don't understand why people are willing to believe a mayor whose last transit experience was 15 years ago over a regional authority whose job it is to plan out and budget projects like this.

WarrenC12 · #**6423** Posted **Dec 11, 2018, 9:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by flipper316

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...osts-1.4940561

So is this thing going to Langley or not? Why can't there ever be a clear answer from these dumb politicians? Doug said he can get this built with the current 1.65 billion LRT budget. So who's lying?

The answer is always Doug.

GenWhy? · #**6424** Posted **Dec 11, 2018, 10:03 PM**

Fleetwood gets SkyTrain because... it's currently a smaller employment centre than Newton or Gilford, currently, and in the OCP is slated for less growth than either with little multi residential zoning, but in any case... all three town centres have a max FSR of 2.5. At least Gilford has a mall and rec centre along with Newton.

The OCP (2013) with this rail line is severely out of date. With Fleetwood and Langly needing we area and community plans / zoning to justify more rapid transit than B-Lines which they'll get soon.

CanSpice · #**6425** Posted **Dec 11, 2018, 11:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Fleetwood gets SkyTrain because... it's currently a smaller employment centre than Newton or Gilford, currently, and in the OCP is slated for less growth than either with little multi residential zoning, but in any case... all three town centres have a max FSR of 2.5. At least Gilford has a mall and rec centre along with Newton.

The OCP (2013) with this rail line is severely out of date. With Fleetwood and Langly needing we area and community plans / zoning to justify more rapid transit than B-Lines which they'll get soon.

1. The ship has sailed, there's going to be SkyTrain down Fraser Highway towards Langley. How far it goes and when depends on funding, but it'll go to at least Fleetwood in the first phase.
2. Reprioritizing community plans definitely needs to be in the works for Fleetwood, Clayton, and Langley City to take advantage of the new SkyTrain line.

Sheba · #**6426** Posted **Dec 12, 2018, 12:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by CanSpice

1. The ship has sailed, there's going to be SkyTrain down Fraser Highway towards Langley. How far it goes and when depends on funding, but it'll go to at least Fleetwood in the first phase.
2. Reprioritizing community plans definitely needs to be in the works for Fleetwood, Clayton, and Langley City to take advantage of the new SkyTrain line.

The Burnaby / New West area plans are scheduled for 2019 - 2020. SoF is next in line after that, so I'm guessing around 2022 they'll start it.

BirchTrain · #**6427** Posted **Dec 12, 2018, 6:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

The same SFU Gondola that said Council spent the better part of the decade rejecting? Those are some wrecking ball-sized testicles; they should consider loaning them out to construction companies.

The hypocrisy is real. The writer doesn’t seem to care about other municipalities, just if they have good transit, all is done. Second rate system for Surrey? Sure, as long as their taxes don’t go up.

BirchTrain · #**6428** Posted **Dec 12, 2018, 6:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by CanSpice

2. Reprioritizing community plans definitely needs to be in the works for Fleetwood, Clayton, and Langley City to take advantage of the new SkyTrain line.

Definitely should happen. Fraser Highway is gonna be lit.

fredinno · #**6429** Posted **Dec 12, 2018, 7:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Fleetwood gets SkyTrain because... it's currently a smaller employment centre than Newton or Gilford, currently, and in the OCP is slated for less growth than either with little multi residential zoning, but in any case... all three town centres have a max FSR of 2.5. At least Gilford has a mall and rec centre along with Newton.

The OCP (2013) with this rail line is severely out of date. With Fleetwood and Langly needing we area and community plans / zoning to justify more rapid transit than B-Lines which they'll get soon.

It's because we decided to go with LRT on the L-line, and had partially completed preliminary planning for the Fraser Hwy 'Phase 2' Skytrain.

Instead of spending time going back to the drawing board, and redesigning everything, this is probably the fastest way to get the SOF transit expansion going.

Also, Doug.

Alex Mackinnon · #**6430** Posted **Dec 12, 2018, 9:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by fredinno

It's because we decided to go with LRT on the L-line, and had partially completed preliminary planning for the Fraser Hwy 'Phase 2' Skytrain.

Instead of spending time going back to the drawing board, and redesigning everything, this is probably the fastest way to get the SOF transit expansion going.

Also, Doug.

The engineering design contract is going back out to tender, so things might take a bit to get ironed out administratively.

Monolith · #**6431** Posted **Dec 13, 2018, 3:46 AM**

Premier says no additional money for Surrey SkyTrain

https://vancouversun.com/news/politi...urrey-skytrain

Sheba · #**6432** Posted **Dec 13, 2018, 4:22 AM**

Surrey–Langley Line (includes pdf links in the original)

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Surrey and Langley are among the fastest-growing communities in the Lower Mainland. Over the next 30 years, the City of Surrey, City of Langley, and Township of Langley are expected to welcome more than 400,000 new residents and create 185,000 additional jobs. That’s why improving rapid transit in the South of Fraser area is a regional priority.

In June 2014, the Metro Vancouver Mayors' Council on Regional Transportation shared a 10-year transportation Vision outlining transit and transportation priorities to keep Metro Vancouver moving.

Building on previous phases of planning and consultation, TransLink is now creating a work plan to determine how to move forward with planning, consultation and design work for rapid transit connecting Surrey and Langley.

According to a 2017 Preliminary Cost Estimates Report the budget estimate for this Project is $1.95B for LRT and $2.91B for SkyTrain. Further technical work to refine the design and scope of this project is funded as part of the Phase Two Investment Plan. A project budget will be confirmed in the future once a business case has been approved and procurement is complete.

If you want to learn more, details on what work has been done to date can be found in the Key Findings Infographic, Alternatives Evaluation Executive Summary, and the Hatch Preliminary Cost Estimates Report.

Those numbers are only for the Fraser Hwy line - not the L Line.

Sheba · #**6433** Posted **Dec 13, 2018, 4:52 AM**

From the Hatch Preliminary Cost Estimates Report (pdf) pg 41

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The stations are 82.5 metres long, and are all elevated, as follows:

140th Street - Centre platform one entrance
152nd Street - Side platform overpass two entrances
160th Street - Side platform mezzanine two entrances
166th Street - Side platform one entrance
184th Street - Side platform one entrance
192nd Street - Side platform one entrance
196th Street - Side platform one entrance
Langley Terminus - Centre platform one entrance

Obviously this was before the proposed 148th St (the other side of Green Timbers) future station. 192nd St is where 64th Ave crosses and 196th is Willowbrook.

Migrant_Coconut · #**6434** Posted **Dec 13, 2018, 7:48 AM**

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