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Old Posted Mar 13, 2012, 2:19 PM
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[Moncton] Sackville Developments

This is the first of the neighbourhood (community) specific threads for the greater southeastern region. This article is reposted from the Moncton development thread:

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Here are a few renders for the proposed new Fine & Performing Arts Centre to be built at Mount Allison University. This is a $30M project that will be opened in 2014.


Aerial perspective


street view


adjacent outdoor performance space fronting on the quad, which will incorporate elements from the existing Memorial Library which is to be demolished to allow for construction.

The final legal hurdle against construction of this new building has now been cleared as Mr. Justice George Rideout failed to declare an injunction against this project. This project is a definite go. Demolition of the old Memorial Library will likely begin in the next couple of weeks.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2012, 2:59 PM
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Another previous post from the Moncton thread to kickstart this new thread

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I was down in Sackville today and snapped a couple of pictures of their new town hall complex, which is now nearing completion.





This is a surprisingly sharp looking building given the fact that the town is not quite 6,000 people (of course Mount Allison University would contribute significantly to the tax base).

The town hall complex will include the civic offices, town and regional RCMP and the fire hall. I believe the town library will also be in the complex.
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Wow where is the new town hall being built? That seems like a fairly substantial building?

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PS> Love the outdoor theater at the new fine arts building.
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Yes, it is a substantial building and is one of the nicest town halls that I have seen, especially for a town of this size. In addition to the civic offices, the building also houses the fire department and both the town and Tantramar divisions of the RCMP. It is located on the southern part of Main Street, more or less acrossfrom the town library.

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On another note, they are nearing completion of renovations to the McDonald's restaurant in town ( a small thing but quite meaningful in a town of 6,000 people).
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So the town hall/fire station is where that old gas station used to be that they tore down? Basically across from the existing fire station?

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So the town hall/fire station is where that old gas station used to be that they tore down? Basically across from the existing fire station?

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Don't know about the gas station but it is across from the old fire station so it sounds about right.
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That's a pretty big development for downtown Sackville!
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from CBC

Historic Sackville church eyed as future cultural centre

Owner wants a proposal by January or the church may be demolished
By Sonya Varma, CBC News Posted: May 13, 2013 6:21 AM AT Last Updated: May 13, 2013 9:06 AM AT



It's an iconic local landmark. For 135 years the old United church has sat at Sackville's main intersection. The white exterior only hinting at what's inside.

"The very spectacular thing is the interior," says long-time Sackville resident Virgil Hammock.

"It's the sanctuary which is all hardwood. It was all hand done by local Sackville craftsmen and it's the kind of craftmanship you just don’t see anymore because people just can't do it."

The church is now privately owned and has been sitting idle for months.

Hammock is leading the charge to save it from being torn down.

Hammock says in addition to the intricate woodwork, the church contains stain glass windows and a classic Casavant pipe organ.

"The idea is we'd like to save the building whatever use we can make of it," says Hammock.

Hammock has support from town council, Renaissance Sackville and other local organizations that are keen on preserving the building and converting it into a cultural centre.

Hammock says Sackville's Live Bait Theatre is interested in the church; the troupe needs a new home and church has great acoustics.

John Lafford, the church's current owner, said he would prefer to see the historic structure kept intact.

"It's part of Sackville and our company was born in Sackville," says Lafford.

'Long way from a done deal'
But the old church is far from move-in ready.

It's leaking and needs a new roof. It could cost as much as $400,000 to stabilize and another $400,000 to convert it to a cultural centre.

“It's a long way from a done deal," says Hammock.

"It's is expensive and will cost a fair amount of money and we're looking at provincial and federal money and private money."

Lafford says he's willing to give the church supporters some leeway, but he can't wait indefinitely for a firm proposal.

He said he'd like to see one by January.

"If there's no funding, I think the church would have to come down," says Lafford.

Hammock says if the church were to be torn down very little inside would be salvageable and the classic Casavant organ would likely sold for scrap.
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The structural steel for the Purdy Crawford Centre for the Arts has now been completely installed. I will try to grab a picture the next time I'm in Sackville.

Also, initial site prep is taking place for this mixed use building, that will be erected on the old United Church manse site.

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Wow the landscape sure is changing in Sackville!
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Purdy Crawford Centre for the Arts Update:

Pictures taken today (August 23rd, 2013)









There was lots of other refurbishments going on throughout the campus of Mt. A, mostly new topcoat on internal roadways and some new concrete sidewalks, but it certainly gave the impression of the campus being a hive of activity......

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They are working on the ground floor of this new four storey mixed use apartment building immediately behind the Marjorie Young Bell Convocation Hall.......

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Apparently the decision has been made and the RCI shortwave broadcasting towers adjacent to the TCH on the Tantramar Marsh will be dismantled this fall.......
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The big towers?! (about 10 or 12 of them?)
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The big towers?! (about 10 or 12 of them?)
Yep.
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How come?
RCI only "broadcasts" on the internet now. The actual shortwave service shut down last year. The feds were shopping around to see if another (European) shortwave service wanted to use the facility as a rebroadcaster but there were no takers.

With internet radio services so ubiquitous, the era of international shortwave broadcasting is almost over. Major broadcasters like the BBC and VOA will likely continue to target markets like Africa and south Asia with conventional shortwave, but aside from that, it's all over and done with......
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There is an application before Sackville town council to allow construction of a three storey 19 unit residential development at the rear of 131 Main Street. This property is at the corner of Main St and Rectory Lane, across from the Avard Dixon Bldg at Mount Allison University.......
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from Sackville Tribune Post:

United Church repairs, renovations expected to total over $1.5 million
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Published on October 02, 2013



SACKVILLE, N.B. – With a $1.5 million pricetag attached to fix up and renovate Sackville’s United Church, it looks as if the historic building may not be able to be saved from the wrecking ball after all.

Virgil Hammock, who is heading the community committee that has been looking at ways to save the 135-year-old church, said estimates to repair the structure have come in at about $800,000 while the reconfiguration costs to convert the building for other uses total more than $650,000.

“And those are conservative estimates . . . so it’s going to cost a whole lot more money that what people expected to fix it up,” he said.

The figures – which include structural repairs, roof repairs, window and window sill replacement, electrical and plumbing updates, fire safety upgrades, mold remediation, installing a new heating system, painting, and more – were provided by local contractors as part of an economic feasibility study that was done this summer to determine whether operating the United Church as a community centre would be a viable option.

The feasibility study, conducted by community development consultants Gwen Zwicker and Amanda Marlin and funded by Renaissance Sackville, examined the cost of exterior and interior repairs, costs associated with reconfiguring the 10,000-square-foot building to house multiple uses and different organizations, as well as ongoing operational costs.

The study’s authors write that the repairs are doable, “but at a very high cost.”

“If the committee examining the potential to convert the church to a community centre were to go ahead with this project, significant funds would be required from federal, provincial and municipal governments, as well as private donors and foundations,” stated Zwicker and Marlin.

“There is support for saving the church building but there may not be widespread support for spending a lot of money to do so.”

And, of course, the more time that passes, the more the repair bills would go up.

“The time it takes to raise or find the money may be too long, the damage will get worse and the costs will increase again,” they pointed out in their report.

As well, the study also indicated that, if the building were to be successfully renovated, monthly operational and maintenance costs would be in the vicinity of $4,500 – a bill that would be hard to cover with the potential rental income that would be expected to come from the users of a community centre.

Zwicker and Marlin noted that, of the dozen or so groups that said they were interested in possibly renting space within a community centre, many of those were non-profit groups or arts/cultural enterprises that either couldn’t afford much for rent or would only be renting the space on a daily/weekly basis.

Based on the findings in their study, they recommended that “converting the United Church into a community centre does not make good or feasible sense.”

Hammock said unfortunately, he has to agree – unless the town of Sackville, as well as the other two levels of government, is able to come through with a pledge of support to preserve the building.

“Even if we got it fixed, there’s no way to run the building without being subsidized,” he said. “There just isn’t a revenue stream to operate the building without a sizeable subsidy from the different levels of government.”

So unless the town steps in, said Hammock, he conceded that it’s neither feasible nor does it make business sense to go ahead with converting the church.

He said Sackville is certainly in need of a community centre like the one being discussed and isn’t giving up on the idea of such a project; but it doesn’t look like it will happen at the church.

Hammock said the feasibility study was a well-done report, which “really identified that there’s a large cost to refurbish the building and a bigger challenge in maintaining and operating it.”

The report, which is available online on Renaissance Sackville’s webite at www.renaissancesackville.ca, will now be handed over to town council for their review.

A public meeting to discuss the findings of the feasibility study is also set for this Thursday, Oct. 3 at 7 p.m. in town council chambers.
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The new four storey residential/commercial building on Bridge street immediately behind Convocation Hall is moving along expeditiously.







Some of the third and fourth floor units at the rear of the building will have a very nice view over the Swan Pond at Mount Allison University........

Also, I have found out that one of the first floor commercial tenants in this building will be Joey's Pizza. They are one of the better restaurants in Sackville, and will be moving across the street from their current location. The current restaurant is in an older building and has character. I presume they are swapping character for a larger and more functional space. They also promise that their new restaurant will have a "twist". I presume they mean a surprise of some kind. I don't know what they mean by this, but they promise to be open in their new location in early 2014......
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Let's be honest here. Students aren't swimming in cash but need to live somewhere. Therefore the market demands lower quality buildings. Also, students are transient so developers can get away with lower quality buildings. Architects, nice building materials, and landscaping are all expensive. What do they expect to get?
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