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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 12:58 AM
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May not be the most recent news, but I just came across it.


They've been talking about this for years and each previous attempt to empty Penn Tower has failed due to volume of employees. So we'll see, and I'm not super psyched about the use of the word "hope"... If they tear down Penn Tower and its garage, they better do something with the space. LOL.

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My question is what the design will be? And when will we be able to see it?
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 2:01 AM
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Good video

Bart Blatstein & his vision for The Provence

Real estate developer Bart Blatstein shares his vision for The Provence, his proposed casino and hotel on North Broad.
Source: Philly.com

http://video.philly.com?freewheel=12...m&VID=24980086
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 2:41 AM
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Good video

Bart Blatstein & his vision for The Provence

Real estate developer Bart Blatstein shares his vision for The Provence, his proposed casino and hotel on North Broad.
Source: Philly.com

http://video.philly.com?freewheel=12...m&VID=24980086
And on a related note:

Provence stands by traffic, parking projections

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Pr...ojections.html
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Chastise me all you like for this, but I think the Gallery presents a great opportunity for a total retail 180 for Center City if the cards are played right. At the moment, Chestnut and Walnut Streets are the destination shopping locales, but the tenants there only cater to as high as the upper mid-range shopper. If the Gallery was extensively and lovingly renovated, and maybe landed a high-end Department anchor, it could serve as the vessel to bring true luxury shopping to the city's core. I mean less Express and Anthropologie, and more Louie, Gucci and Prada.

I say dream big and don't bother with the drive on 76 to KOP ever again.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 12:38 PM
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http://nextcity.org/equityfactor/ent...ost-of-working

I don't fully understand the implications of this, but this seems good. Maybe someone who reads this will be understand this process a little better.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 1:31 PM
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Today's Changing Skyline has a few interesting nuggets besides its main topic.

Changing Skyline: Boyd is doomed - but plan needs rethinking

First, I have mixed feelings about the Boyd. Inga does make a good point that that end of Chestnut is doing very well in spite of the vacant theater. I am for progress, but the interior is so amazing. I think it's only worth demolishing (interior and exterior) for something more worthwhile, e.g., a theater w/ residential units on the upper floors, encased in an architecturally striking building. But for what they're proposing, it doesn't seem worth it.

Now for the good news:

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According to HughE Dillon, who blogs as PhillyChitChat, Pearl Properties (which just completed an admirably urban apartment house on the 1600 block of Sansom) is planning a high-rise tower between the Boyd and 19th Street. It's not clear if Pearl will incorporate the historic corner building - or follow iPic's lead and seek financial-hardship clearance to demolish it. The company's head, Jim Pearlstein, did not respond to requests for details.
First I'm hearing of this...

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There's no doubt that residential projects are a big reason the street is making a comeback. Just this month, Brickstone started construction on an 80-unit apartment house on the 1100 block, a stretch that truly qualifies as blighted. It's a fine project that combines preservation of an existing building and infill construction.
Really? Construction is underway already? I don't think I noticed when I rode by on the bus the other day.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 2:36 PM
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http://nextcity.org/equityfactor/ent...ost-of-working

I don't fully understand the implications of this, but this seems good. Maybe someone who reads this will be understand this process a little better.
I've made this same case on this threat numerous times. As does Paul Levy regularly. It's merely trying to solve the tax problem through taking advantage of elasticity. There is more elasticity in immovable tax sources than their movable counterparts. If you tax wages disproportionately high, businesses will up and move, or not hire as many employees as they otherwise would. But if you tax property disproportionately higher, people are less likely to sell their house and uproot all of their community ties and move out to the burbs.

Obviously there is variation in both models, but we're only working with margins here. If you want an example, take a look at the west side of city line avenue. Those businesses should be here.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 3:31 PM
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Pardon the intrusion . I was told ( by a friend ) that there is an institution somewhere on
Arch street that has a scale model of center city . Is this a fact . If so , where is it and is
the said model kept up to date ( as much as possible ) . Thanks for letting me post .
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First, I have mixed feelings about the Boyd. Inga does make a good point that that end of Chestnut is doing very well in spite of the vacant theater.
This is where she's stretching it, the 1900 block of Chestnut street is woefully under-performing. There's something like 8-10 store-front vacancies, an empty lot, a rundown gap outlet. Really, the best thing that block has going for it, is Devil's Alley (they have a heart attack inducing buffalo chicken sandwich smothered in bleu cheese and bacon...that i allow myself to have once a year). She's making it sound like national retailers are beating down the doors, clamoring to open up on this stretch, and that's just patently false. The 1800 block (Boyds-the store) would logically be the next stretch to see some investment--but thus far I cant think of anything new that's going into that block either.

Also her comment about the land being too valuable for a single-story use is a bit odd--considering the dozens of single story buildings along chestnut street--most notably the large corner building (houses Vitamin Shoppe and Jimmy Johns) at a far more prime spot at 17th. And "single-story use" seems to be an understatement--they are keeping the facade in tact--then behind it, adding 8 cinemas and a restaurant/lounge space. This isn't the same thing as demo-ing an historic building, then throwing up a schlocky, 1 story lean-to with 760sf of retail space just to snatch some rent.

Would this project be better served with a 30 story apartment tower above it? Sure. But, then again, not many projects wouldn't be.

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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 3:55 PM
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Pardon the intrusion . I was told ( by a friend ) that there is an institution somewhere on
Arch street that has a scale model of center city . Is this a fact . If so , where is it and is
the said model kept up to date ( as much as possible ) . Thanks for letting me post .
There is, The American Institute of Architects at 1218 Arch. But it is not kept up to date and it is rather out of date now.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 4:10 PM
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Street facing store fronts at the Gallery = great!

New residential and/or hotel tower(s) = great! (though I hope them drastically change the design from the earlier models shown)

Girard Property improvements = super great!

Market 8... = taken in tandem with all these other things I guess I'm for it.

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The 0%-chance-thing I've hoped for is a complete tear-down and redesign of the of the gallery property areas. I guess a piece-meal improvement to the area will suffice, but Im still holding out hope that the owners with have the vision to at least clear out a section (30-50ft wide) on 10th st to allow for a proper entrance to the Market East Station and its own version of the 30th St Station "Porch" in front of it. With Burlington Coat factory closing this would be the best (and maybe last) opportunity to do this, but PREIT probably sees that square footage as way to valuable to even consider this.
just something simple like this

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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 4:12 PM
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Thanks . I will give it a visit .
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 4:37 PM
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Everything Londonee said. I'll add that the lot is also L-shaped and weird, and sits predominately on majority two-story Sansom Street. Not saying it would be impossible to build a highrise on it, but it'd be a challenge. Previous plans, I believe, used other lots as part of the plan.
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Septa Plans $650 M expansion to King of Prussia and Valley Forge

Plans to add 4-5 stops to the Norristown Line ending at Valley Forge.Will take 8 years to complete but interesting nonetheless.


http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...-expanded.html
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 5:44 PM
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Septa Plans $650 M expansion to King of Prussia and Valley Forge

Plans to add 4-5 stops to the Norristown Line ending at Valley Forge.Will take 8 years to complete but interesting nonetheless.


http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...-expanded.html
I thought we didn't care about development outside city limits? Just kidding, this is pretty cool. With the development that is going on in Conshy I wonder if Norristown will eventually turn around as well.
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I thought we didn't care about development outside city limits?
Well, ONLY because it will help more city residents get out to KOP Mall.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 6:04 PM
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Pardon the intrusion . I was told ( by a friend ) that there is an institution somewhere on
Arch street that has a scale model of center city . Is this a fact . If so , where is it and is
the said model kept up to date ( as much as possible ) . Thanks for letting me post .
We saw one here - http://www.philadelphiacfa.org/

At the top of their site they actually show an image of it. It's a little old though, it didn't include the comcast tower.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 6:26 PM
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Really? Construction is underway already? I don't think I noticed when I rode by on the bus the other day.
Does she mean this building? I thought crews were in here getting ready to convert it to a residential building.

https://www.google.com/maps/preview/...hg!2e0!6m1!1e1
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Does she mean this building? I thought crews were in here getting ready to convert it to a residential building.

https://www.google.com/maps/preview/...hg!2e0!6m1!1e1
Yes. Where the rumored Trader Joes was supposed to occupy the ground floor. This is great news that they're moving forward. The 1100 block of Chestnut makes the 1900 block look like 5th Ave
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 7:34 PM
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Yes. Where the rumored Trader Joes was supposed to occupy the ground floor. This is great news that they're moving forward. The 1100 block of Chestnut makes the 1900 block look like 5th Ave
Ha, seriously. The 1100 block is terrifying.
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