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Old Posted Aug 23, 2012, 10:02 PM
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sorry quick question, im sure its answered in the thread but 17 pages is alot to look through lol, uhm is this still going to be a building? lol or is it a park?
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2012, 10:23 PM
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Christ you are some of the laziest people I've ever seen. The answer is literally on the last page.
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Christ you are some of the laziest people I've ever seen. The answer is literally on the last page.
instead of complaining like a 10 year old you could have answered the question..
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christ you are some of the laziest people i've ever seen. The answer is literally on the last page.
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2012, 4:43 PM
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those pics are fake looking.
something up to date.
maybe something from the greek church people?

that walkway over the road
what did it connect to before 9/11
10-11 years ago??
This is the only detailed rendering of the Church.



That pedestrian bridge connected to the original World Trade Center before 9/11. It's the only remaining intact structure from the original World Trade Center.
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2012, 4:44 PM
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instead of complaining like a 10 year old you could have answered the question..
5 World Trade Center will stand north of the Church. The vehicle area will be a park.

Here's a map. The purple area will be the park, the building sitting in the purple is the Church, and the blue area is marked for Five World Trade Center.

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instead of complaining like a 10 year old you could have answered the question..
I don't answer questions for people who act like they are 10 years old and can't read back a single page and then try and act all cutesy about it in their post. Get a grip.
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2012, 6:31 PM
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5 World Trade Center will stand north of the Church. The vehicle area will be a park.

Here's a map. The purple area will be the park, the building sitting in the purple is the Church, and the blue area is marked for Five World Trade Center.

Sorry, don't want to split hairs but WTC 5 is to the SOUTH of the church and park.
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2012, 7:47 PM
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I don't answer questions for people who act like they are 10 years old and can't read back a single page and then try and act all cutesy about it in their post. Get a grip.
i looked at the last page, didn't see any diagram showing where 5 wtc would be, so if anyone needs to get a grip its you,you cant answer a question but you complain..thats smart
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Then you should probably try reading the entire topic. These 18 pages aren't just for show.
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Then you should probably try reading the entire topic. These 18 pages aren't just for show.
why would i go through 18 pages when half of those are years and years old?
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2012, 6:03 PM
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That pedestrian bridge connected to the original World Trade Center before 9/11. It's the only remaining intact structure from the original World Trade Center.

is there photos of the old bridge ???
what it connected to.....
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Thomson Reuters

Published: Tuesday, 11 Sep 2012 | 8:09 PM ET

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48995809

World Trade Center museum deal may lead to land sale: sources

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(Reuters) - A long-delayed sale of land that is part of the World Trade Center redevelopment could become a reality under a new accord between the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and the National September 11 Memorial and Museum, four sources familiar with the matter said on Tuesday.

The property, called Site 5, could fetch $135 million to $200 million, two of the sources said.

Site 5 is owned by the Lower Manhattan Development Corp, a city-state agency created to rebuild that part of the city after the September 11, 2001 attacks. Across from the World Trade Center, the land had been occupied by the Deutsche Bank building, which was damaged in the attacks and later demolished.

The accord between the Port Authority and National September 11 Memorial & Museum announced on Monday obliges the Lower Manhattan Development Corp to fulfill a 2006 agreement by turning Site 5 over to the Port Authority.

In exchange, the Port Authority would give the museum title to the eight acres of land it and the memorial occupy on the 16-acre (6.5 hectare) World Trade Center site. The memorial honors nearly 3,000 people who perished as a result of the attacks.

"Under the 2006 agreement, it (Site 5) is supposed to be swapped for the eight acres on which the museum and memorial are located," Port Authority Vice Chairman Scott Rechler told Reuters on Tuesday after a service for 84 Port Authority workers who were killed on September 11.

The land swaps were delayed by a political standoff over who would run the annual September 11 anniversary ceremonies held on the memorial plaza, two of the sources said. The sources asked for anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the matter.

The governors of New York and New Jersey, who run the Port Authority, wanted more control over the ceremonies.

The annual memorial has been managed by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg because he chairs the foundation that runs the museum and memorial, and the city's police are responsible for security.

The deal gives the two sides six months to finalize the land swaps. One of the sources said that if only part of Site 5 were to be transferred to the Port Authority, New York state's Public Authorities Control Board might have to approve the deal, which could complicate the matter.

MORE MONEY FOR PORT AUTHORITY

The Port Authority owns the World Trade Center complex, which it is rebuilding with developer Larry Silverstein. The Port Authority's projects include the underground museum.

Last year, Port Authority stopped building the nearly $1.3 billion museum because it was arguing with the museum foundation over cost overruns.

Monday's accord cleared the way for New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie to attend Tuesday's 11th anniversary ceremony by resolving the cost dispute and creating a coordinating committee to handle such events.

In July, the foundation said politicians would be excluded from speaking roles to focus on victims' families.

The sources said this pressured Christie and Cuomo to reach the accord with Bloomberg on Monday. The deal clears the way for work on the museum to resume in October, Rechler said. The project should be finished by late 2013 or early 2014, he said.


A spokeswoman for Bloomberg declined to comment. Cuomo's spokesmen had no immediate comment, and a spokesman for Christie referred questions to the Port Authority. No politicians spoke at Tuesday's memorial.

Unlike the World Trade Center land, which can only be used for commercial development, Site 5 can be used for apartments, a hotel or offices.

"The site would be most valuable if it supported apartments with a hotel on the lower floors," said Robert Von Ancken, chairman of Landauer Valuation & Advisory, a division of Newmark Grubb Knight Frank.

A combined hotel and apartments could sell for between $135 million and $150 million, based on comparable sales in the area, the height of the building and the market at the time, he said.

The Port Authority could use the cash as it struggles to find funds for the World Trade Center and airport, bridge and tunnel projects.

(Reporting By Joan Gralla; Additional reporting by Ilania Jonas)
(c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2012.
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Imagine if they built a Kaufman hotel there...
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2012, 1:28 PM
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sorry quick question, im sure its answered in the thread but 17 pages is alot to look through lol, uhm is this still going to be a building? lol or is it a park?
It would not be in the highrise proposal forum if it were simply a park.

Now enough bickering people.



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A long-delayed sale of land that is part of the World Trade Center redevelopment could become a reality under a new accord between the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and the National September 11 Memorial and Museum, four sources familiar with the matter said on Tuesday. The property, called Site 5, could fetch $135 million to $200 million, two of the sources said. Site 5 is owned by the Lower Manhattan Development Corp, a city-state agency created to rebuild that part of the city after the September 11, 2001 attacks.

The accord between the Port Authority and National September 11 Memorial & Museum announced on Monday obliges the Lower Manhattan Development Corp to fulfill a 2006 agreement by turning Site 5 over to the Port Authority.

Unlike the World Trade Center land, which can only be used for commercial development, Site 5 can be used for apartments, a hotel or offices. "The site would be most valuable if it supported apartments with a hotel on the lower floors," said Robert Von Ancken, chairman of Landauer Valuation & Advisory, a division of Newmark Grubb Knight Frank. A combined hotel and apartments could sell for between $135 million and $150 million, based on comparable sales in the area, the height of the building and the market at the time, he said.
It's about time.
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If a hotel/condo, it should be very tall.

Hopefully well over 1,000 ft., given the 1.4 million square ft. of air rights and small footprint.
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^Air rights don't apply on PA land. That's a city law which doesn't apply to a multi-state agency like the Port Authority. The only thing stopping the PA from building a 2,000' cube that fills up the entire block, aside from the market, is the site plan they committed to and a desire not to piss off the locals.
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So is this building cancelled as it says on the diagrams or is this still active? Sorry for the thread bump.
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2013, 8:10 PM
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Virtually dead. The Port Authority owns the land but it's going to be a loooooong time before this site is developed. My estimate? Five years at least, especially considering that the Transit Hub and WTC1 has essentially bankrupt the Port Authority. They're already stealing money from other slated projects just to pay their bills. This site has to be sold before anything develops here, most likely.
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Virtually dead. The Port Authority owns the land but it's going to be a loooooong time before this site is developed.
The site is currently being marketed by the LMDC/Port Authority, and the interest has been strongest from residential/hotel developers. It will be very tall and quite narrow.

I have no idea when it will be sold and developed, but it's the furthest thing from dead. Unless you're referring to the original proposal from Chase. That building is cancelled.
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