Brunette Interchange and United Boulevard Connector

[Metro-One]

By far the best option is option A. A free flow connection between highway 1 to the Pattullo Bridge and to the SFPR would actually bring some completion / true connection to our highway system.

Not expecting any free flow movements under the NDP. After they removed the free flow movements from the Pattullo Bridge project on the Surrey side and reduced the Steveston Interchange from a triple stacked with rapid bus station to essentially retaining the current design with bus on shoulder… not to mention the complete elimination of any interchange upgrades on the 99 south of the tunnel…

[mcj]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

By far the best option is option A. A free flow connection between highway 1 to the Pattullo Bridge and to the SFPR would actually bring some completion / true connection to our highway system.

That's wrong, option A would not be free flowing. There's still a light at the E Columbia Street intersection and the Cumberland Street intersection that Option C completely avoids. Not to mention the light at Richmond Street and the light for the Front Street turnoff...

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by mcj

That's wrong, option A would not be free flowing. There's still a light at the E Columbia Street intersection and the Cumberland Street intersection that Option C completely avoids. Not to mention the light at Richmond Street and the light for the Front Street turnoff...

I didn’t say that option A alone completed the free flow movement, but it is the closest to building towards that.

The interactions with highway 1 are free flow towards and from the the west.

Option C ovoids some of that but had no free flow connections with the highway.

I would actually support option C if made free flow with the highway connections.

But this entire conversation is mute anyways, since what we will likely get under this government is minimal improvements (likely retaining existing structures, or at most a 1 to 1 replacement) with a few new bike lanes. (Please note, this is not anti bike lanes, but they are likely all we are going to get for any real improvements)

[rickvug]

I wonder if this will end up being for a much more limited scope. I'm specifically thinking about the bottleneck and safety disaster that is the intersection of East Columbia and Brunette. Tragically there was a pedestrian fatality there in February of 2023. Before this there was citizen lobbying about this specific section of sidewalk, which also happens to be a notable gap in the Central Valley Greenway. I know that the CNW views it as a priority but have been frustrated by the high cost and complexity (ie. expropriation requirements). The fatality along with the Pattullo Replacement Project may have finally pushed this work up the priority list and secured funding.

No inside info on this, just a guess based on having followed the situation.

[Bobert]

Option c, and really B aswell would be nice if they had some sort of Tupper Ave on-ramp to remove the truck traffic from Brunette. Seems like a big omission to build a new overpass but still have westbound highway 1 traffic funnel into brunette

[mcj]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

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Yeah Option C could have better connections with the Highway. Any option that involves an intersection at E Columbia Street will never be free-flowing though, as there's just not enough physical space there to build an interchange without needing to demolish parts of the Brewery District or remove the CN mainline tracks.

Although I think you're correct that we're likely to see modest improvements though. This was projected in the $500 - 650M range back in 2016, placing the likely figures 8 years later at somewhere north of a billion for something similar in scope.

Will be interesting to see what options are presented and the figures associated with them.

[SpongeG]

where are y'all seeing options and info? is it online or did you attend an event?

[mcj]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

where are y'all seeing options and info? is it online or did you attend an event?

We are referring to the 2016 options / info. Nothing for 2024 available yet.

[SpongeG]

ah ok.