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Old Posted Dec 7, 2017, 2:50 AM
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Dunno if this is appropriate here, but I find hysterical headlines from the NYT tiresome:

"California Fires Enter the Heart of Los Angeles"

At least they didn't cap it off with an exclamation point.
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So you're saying that the fires are no big deal?


Somebody tell that to the LAT. Its headlines from my feed today:

"Santa Ana winds roar through Southern California, whipping fires on destructive path"

"Southern California’s Trial by Fire"

"Santa Ana winds roar through Southern California, whipping fires on destructive path"

"Dramatic videos show a terrifying morning commute on the 405 as Bel-Air fire grows"


Oh, and there's this, also from the LAT:

"Homes burn in Bel-Air as new fire erupts in heart of L.A."
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Dunno if this is appropriate here, but I find hysterical headlines from the NYT tiresome:

"California Fires Enter the Heart of Los Angeles"

At least they didn't cap it off with an exclamation point.

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So you're saying that the fires are no big deal?


Somebody tell that to the LAT. Its headlines from my feed today:

Dec 6, 2017

poste documenté pour le dossier
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HA! Imagine that. I lived in Southern California for over forty years and never found out that Bel Air was "the heart of Los Angeles." When I think of all the time I wasted looking for it downtown!


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Dunno if this is appropriate here, but I find hysterical headlines from the NYT tiresome:

"California Fires Enter the Heart of Los Angeles"

At least they didn't cap it off with an exclamation point.
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Old Posted Dec 7, 2017, 4:03 AM
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HA! Imagine that. I lived in Southern California for over forty years and never found out that Bel Air was "the heart of Los Angeles." When I think of all the time I wasted looking for it downtown!
LOL.

The people most affected appear to be taking the situation with a grain of salt:

"Idyllic Bel-Air has seen fires before and most still refuse to leave"


I'm sure the apocalypse will come to LA eventually, just not today (unless there's a really big earthquake).
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Old Posted Dec 7, 2017, 4:22 AM
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Rupert Murdoch's home is on fire. So there's that.

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DESIGN FOR DISASTER: The Story of the Bel-Air Conflagration

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"The Bel-Air, Brentwood, and Santa Ynez Fires of November, 1961"
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Old Posted Dec 7, 2017, 6:17 AM
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Rupert Murdoch's home is on fire. So there's that.

fortune

You are bad.



LAT published Bel-Air's stats:


LAT


At least LAT's now calling Bel-Air the "tony Platinum Triangle pocket", not "the heart of Los Angeles".

Nice that the Getty Center is refusing to lose its collective head.

The indigenous people here had sense enough not to live up in the passes and canyons for the very reason being illustrated tonight. Smart. Of course they were also wise enough to not live in rigid, earthquake-prone structures, a good example all of us here have chosen to ignore.




“There was a desert wind blowing that night. It was one of those hot dry Santa Anas that come down through the mountain passes and curl your hair and make your nerves jump and your skin itch. On nights like that every booze party ends in a fight. Meek little wives feel the edge of the carving knife and study their husbands' necks. Anything can happen.”

Raymond Chandler, Red Wind: A Collection of Short Stories



This week's Santa Ana's are quite cool, but still very dry, not hot at all.



P.S. "Flames burned a wine storage shed at media mogul Rupert Murdoch's 16-acre Moraga Vineyards estate and appeared to have damaged about 7 acres of vines, a spokeswoman said." - chicago tribune
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style, please?

On this night of fires, I had my scanner on as background "just in case." We haven't had a fire in Laurel Canyon in decades, and we're probably due.

The police dispatcher called out some mischief happening in the 4000 block of W. 21st Street. I realized I had no clue where that was, so I nosed over there in the Googlemobile and saw this handsome six-unit apartment:


GSV

It was built in 1924, and the architect was Milton M. Friedman according to the city building permit. (Evidently not the economist.) He had several larger projects on/near Wilshire, including the non-Black Dahlia-related Hotel Chancellor very recently discussed by Tourmaline here.

Friedman is mentioned by Ruth Wallach in her book Los Angeles Residential Architecture: Modernism Meets Eclecticism:



The Piccadilly is a survivor:


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Wallach is not far off...


commons.wikipedia.org

...although the Piccadilly reminds me more of this:


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I'll hazard Elizabethan in response to "style please", but I'd be interested in what others think.
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looks to have a touch of Jacobean to me

Anyone else notice the owl on the roof and the 'dinosaur' on the telegraph wire?
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looks to have a touch of Jacobean to me

Anyone else notice the owl on the roof and the 'dinosaur' on the telegraph wire?
LOL. Yes.




ETA:

You win. Nice call :-)

Hardwick Hall ("more glass than wall"), 1500s:

national trust

Felbrigg Hall, 1600s:

national trust

(Felbrigg's got plenty of beasties too)

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I have a similar question about this apartment building.


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Here's a closer look at 831-33 S. Flower:


The Inland Architect and News Record Vol 43 No 6 June 1904 @ Hathitrust
what style would you all say this is?
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I went back and reread the seller's description BGC. I forgot how precise it was.

"This would be in Sycamore Canyon in the local San Gabriel Mountains just above Pasadena here in Los Angeles County
and the area was very popular with hunting lodge places and recreation hiking and camping with Mt Lowe and Mt Wilson
and so many other trails locations and such. These places came and went through the decades with some wiped out due to a fire
or flood or just being abandoned.
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Do you think it's possible the seller placed Sycamore Canyon "above Pasadena" because of the photographer's stamp.


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Could be the photographer's location in Pasadena might have led to the "above Pasadena" or they were talking about Arroryo Seco canyon which does have lots of sycamore(IIRC, I've not hiked up there in quite some time) and cabins.
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I have a similar question about this apartment building.




what style would you all say this is?
I would say that ''style'' might be called LA Ostentatious Pretentiousness.

Its totally out of character for LA and would be more appropriate for Shakespearean London about two hundred years ago.

My teeth hurt just by looking at it. But the leaded glass windows are a nice touch.


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Its totally out of character for LA and would be more appropriate for Shakespearean London about two hundred years ago.
Out of character for LA? I thought we were famous for looting the world & history for anything which temporarily caught our fancy to pastiche into something or other. I like this one. One can almost hear the strains of a lute drifting out of those pretty windows (and Shakespeare's been dead 401 years).

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I have a similar question about this apartment building.
what style would you all say this is?
I'd say Italian Renaissance, specifically Venetian, where Gothic and Byzantine influences lasted longer than elsewhere in Italy. But that's just a guess.


Ca' d'Oro on the Grand Canal, Venice

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Dunno if this is appropriate here, but I find hysterical headlines from the NYT tiresome:

"California Fires Enter the Heart of Los Angeles"

At least they didn't cap it off with an exclamation point.
Bel Air is a lot of things, but it is hardly the "heart" of LA.
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[QUOTE=GaylordWilshire;8011091]


So you're saying that the fires are no big deal?
"Dramatic videos show a terrifying morning commute on the 405 as Bel-Air fire grows"


Oh, and there's this, also from the LAT:

"Homes burn in Bel-Air as new fire erupts in heart of L.A."[/QUOTE

No we're saying the usual 'news hysteria ' is the usual crap
Yes there are fires
There are fires every year
Some are big
Some are not
As a former resident of Orange County, my memory goes back to the Green River Fire. And a Bel Air Fire And And
But still, Bel Air is not "...the heart of LA", so Get Real.
I have been searching the news for information on the Ventura fires.
I don't understand why the 'news' folks send out people to talk on camera
It's all the same BS overandoveandover, and in the video archive
Artsy -fartsy pix of flames on a hillside, coming out of a window,
burned house burn vehicle,
very sad interview with folks who just lost everything
How about some backed off shots that set the scene of where- ?????
I've traveled the 101 126 etc enough to recognize areas, and would like to know what's happening, but that won't occur in these daze of worthless 'news/journalism"
Yippee for the New York Trash
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Yippee for the New York Trash.
What the heck is that supposed to mean?
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Nice that the Getty Center is refusing to lose its collective head.
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Although they might well have:






Why are some of you so angry or antagonisitic, as it appears you are, concerning these fires and/or the news coverage of them?

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How about some backed off shots that set the scene of where- ?????
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