Snapped this pic on my way home yesterday. It looks like one of the installed curtain wall piece contains the infamous black glass. You can see the clear-ish blue glass below with the top band in black.
That's a good sign.^
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There was talk a while ago about what the typical ceiling heights were for the residential floors. From my vantage point, it looks like their fairly short by today's standards - certainly no more than average. My guess would be the floor-to-floor heights might actually be no more than around 9 ft...leading to ceiling heights at most a little greater than 8.5 ft.....if my guess is accurate, it's definitely on the low side for new construction today, rental or otherwise....
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There was talk a while ago about what the typical ceiling heights were for the residential floors. From my vantage point, it looks like their fairly short by today's standards - certainly no more than average. My guess would be the floor-to-floor heights might actually be no more than around 9 ft...leading to ceiling heights at most a little greater than 8.5 ft.....if my guess is accurate, it's definitely on the low side for new construction today, rental or otherwise....
At the time you made this comment I believe they were still finishing up the parking aspect of the tower... if you look at george's latest photo, you can see the rather large slab-slab gap, which I am convinced is where the tower transitions from parking to residences, so keep an eye on the slab-slab heights from here on out for an idea of ceiling heights.
At the time you made this comment I believe they were still finishing up the parking aspect of the tower... if you look at george's latest photo, you can see the rather large slab-slab gap, which I am convinced is where the tower transitions from parking to residences, so keep an eye on the slab-slab heights from here on out for an idea of ceiling heights.
No, I was actually looking at the first resi floor. (there is some type of amenity floor between parking and resi). The resi floors to me appear to be either the same floor-to-floor as the parking, or at most a few inches more. Check the rendering as well - I don't see how residential can be at absolute most more than about 3" - 5" greater than the parking floors....
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If parking podia is going to be a necessary evil in the city, I wish more architects would attempt to make them an integral part of the design like this. I think the black glass was an important detail in making this a stunner, but why is the podium so often a crappy afterthought?? Wouldn't a nice design be more likely to attract high quality retail tenants?
^It's hard to meet fire safety and ventilation requirements with any sort of façade that looks like a normal building—and doesn't cost a fortune. Slanting floor slabs really complicate things. For many years back in the 90s I tried to get the city to implement some design guidelines for parking structures, but the resulting document was laughable. I don't quite understand how Hovey has this detailed; maybe he's solved the puzzle. I'll have to go take a look.
Nothing too complicated about the parking design. Enter on the south side of the building from Upper Illinois, and it spirals up thru the building. Parking on the outside of the slabs, drives in near the core. Similar to 235 Van Buren.
yesterday - didn't have time to cut over from Michigan, but I snapped this pic. More black glass is up:
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