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Old Posted Mar 4, 2009, 5:15 AM
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Good news for the Whitecaps, but bad news for MLS, it's amazing how quickly everyone is jumping off the bandwagon. Even Kerfoot must be rethinking the $40Million entry fee.

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By Ian Walker, Vancouver SunMarch 3, 2009 5:01 PM



Call it addition by subtraction.

Yet again, the Vancouver Whitecaps bid for a Major League Soccer franchise has been bolstered by a withdrawal from the expansion process. This time, it’s Miami that has pulled the plug, leaving just Vancouver, Ottawa, Portland and St. Louis in the hunt for two spots for the 2011 season.

Miami FC blamed the tanking economy for its decision, which does not come as a complete surprise. Reports surfaced last week that joint owners FC Barcelona and Marcelo Claure were having second thoughts. Miami had been a frontrunner, and was hoping start up operations for next season if successful.

Previously, Montreal and Atlanta dropped out of the bid process.

An MLS official said the announcement on the two successful applicants is still expected before the start of the regular season on March 19.

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Old Posted Mar 4, 2009, 5:21 AM
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Vancouver and Portland win expansion race according to MLS source

Vancouver and Portland will be granted MLS franchises later this month, according to a highly placed MLS source.

The failure of Miami to secure the backing of Barcelona has effectively ended the expansion race. Ottawa remains at play for 2013 and will go into that bidding process as the likely frontrunner if it approves a soccer specific stadium in April.

Although the source says that “all bets are off” for 2013 as several of the bids that pulled out for ’11 will be back in the hunt.

St. Louis still lacks significant financial backing to be a legitimate factor in the 2011 bid. Quietly the St. Louis bid has been negotiating with MLS to allow a structured deal similar to what Montreal and Miami asked for. It has been suggested that St. Louis was only prepared to pay about $9 million US in expansion fees, with the rest of its money tied up in infrastructure improvements required for MLS.

To this point MLS has not budged on the $40 million asking price and does not seem likely to do so with St. Louis either.

"St. Louis is banking on the league looking for a natural rival for Kansas City and nostalgia for what the city once was," as second source said.

The decision to go to Portland and Vancouver was based on "stadium plan, political support and geographical factors," the MLS source said.

MLS is waiting for Portland to give final approval on its stadium plan to make the announcement. That's expected to come March 11. If Portland approves the stadium, the expansion announcement will likely take place March 17 or 18.




March 03, 2009
The new MLS expansion frontrunner: Vancouver

With the Miami MLS expansion bid officially in its grave, Major League Soccer needs a new favorite to emerge in the expansion race, and sources tell SBI that one expansion city has done just that.

Vancouver has become the new front-runner in the MLS expansion sweepstakes, moving ahead of remaining MLS expansion candidates Portland, St. Louis and Ottawa. According to multiple sources, MLS is on the verge of putting Vancouver's bid up for expansion approval and the Canadian city has become what one source called "a lock" for the 2011 expansion cycle.

MLS is expected announce its 2011 expansion entrants before the start of the 2009 season on March 19th and signs are pointing to Vancouver being one of those entrants.

Why Vancouver? Three major factors are in the bid's favor.

First, the Vancouver bid has the deepest and most financially strong stable of owners among the remaining expansion candidates. With Vancouver Whitecaps owner Greg Kerfoot, former Yahoo executive Jeff Mallett, Boston Celtics co-owner Steve Luczo and NBA star Steve Nash making up the group, the Vancouver bid boasts the prospective owners best equipped to deal with the current global financial crisis.

Secondly, a potential national TV contract for MLS in Canada also adds to Vancouver's candidacy. Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment (MLSE), the parent company of Toronto FC, recently purchased GolTV Canada and is in position to benefit the most from one or two Canadian cities (Ottawa being the other) entering MLS, which would help a national Candian MLS television contract move closer to reality.

Thirdly, Vancouver has the double benefit of being a national rival to Toronto FC, while also being a geographic rival with 2009 MLS expansion club Seattle Sounders FC.

Vancouver has not been approved yet, but the Canadian city is now in the lead and looks to have fewer obstacles in its way than any of the remaining bids.

What do you think of this development? Surprised to see Vancouver move to the forefront? Still holding out hope that Portland and St. Louis will get it together and make the cut? Wondering if MLS will reconsider bringing Montreal back into the mix? Starting to think that MLS just might not expand at all in 2011?

Share your thoughts on Vancouver's MLS expansion chances, and the MLS expansion race in general, in the comments section below.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2009, 6:28 AM
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Nice. Very nice. Vancouver's pretty much IN ^^

Can't wait for all the hype to begin, now only if we can get a stadium for the Whitecaps to be approved and BUILT - somewhere.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2009, 6:48 AM
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^ with the BC Place Stadium renovations, i don't see it happening for decades....and decades.
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great news!
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2009, 4:56 PM
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i know everybody is excited, but i'm a little worried.

the MLS is still a relatively new league and with everybody jumping ship, makes me wonder if there really is grassroot support for soccer in the US. i would hate the MLS to go the same way as NASL.

Furthermore, who knows the financial health of the present teams in this new economy. i would imagine sponsors leaving and tickets not being sold....

gawd, i hope i'm wrong
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mr.x2, I can't find the original link to that first news story(Vancouver and Portland win expansion race according to MLS source). Was it from a credible source 'cause I'm not finding any other concrete news on this?


edit. no worries...the news was from Ives Galarcep(Soccer By Ives) the ESPN writer. His sources are pretty legit apparently. So hopefully in a couple of weeks we'll know for sure. I'm still not counting my chickens yet!

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Not MLS news, but it involves the 'Caps and is something soccer-related to look forward to in Vancouver:

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Steve Nash to bring world's best athletes to Vancouver for charity soccer game

By Ian Walker, Vancouver Sun - March 4, 2009 8:01 PM

One of the most entertaining moments of a Steve Nash’s charity basketball game was during the intermission when the NBA star took to centre court and displayed his deftness with a soccer ball. The two-time NBA MVP dribbled the ball off his head, knees, feet and toes, wooing fans and teammates alike with his sublime control.

It seems it was only a tease of what’s to come. The Phoenix Suns guard will be hosting a charity soccer game in downtown Vancouver on Sept. 19 to raise awareness and funds for the Steve Nash Foundation. Joining Nash on the outdoor pitch will be fellow NBA stars along with some of soccer’s best players and other celebrities. While no official announcement has been made, Nash revealed his intention earlier this week.

"We're trying to bring the world's best athletes to the street, a really grassroots level, where the fans can reach out and touch them," Nash told Canadian Press.

The event will be free to the public with Chinatown and David Lam Park possible sites. In New York last year, people climbed trees, fences and streetlights and broke into multilingual chants as they watched some of the world’s biggest sports stars compete for bragging rights. Participants included the NBA’s Baron Davis and FC Barcelona striker and World Cup winner Thierry Henry.

This year, Nash will hold events in Los Angeles and New York as well as Vancouver, according to his foundation’s website.

The Vancouver Whitecaps — of whom Nash is a co-owner — are expected to be involved, but to what capacity is still unclear.

“It’s a great event for the city, soccer and everyone involved,” said Whitecaps president Bob Lenarduzzi.

Nash formed his foundation in 2001 to assist underserved children in their health, personal development, education and enjoyment of life. Past events in Vancouver include his charity classic basketball games in 2006 and '07, which raised hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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From the Globe and Mail: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...Story/National

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Vancouver Whitecaps owner likely to be awarded MLS franchise expansion
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March 7, 2009

VANCOUVER -- Barring a last-minute snag, the owner of the Vancouver Whitecaps Football Club will be awarded a Major League Soccer expansion franchise by the end of this month.

Two sources requesting anonymity said this week that Greg Kerfoot, the reclusive Vancouver businessman and owner of the Whitecaps, was negotiating the final details of an agreement with MLS commissioner Don Garber.

The new MLS team would replace the existing Whitecaps club, which competes in the less prestigious United Soccer League's First Division. The new team would take the name Whitecaps and begin play in 2011.Yesterday, Dan Courtemanche, MLS vice-president of communications and marketing, said the league hopes to announce its two successful applicants by March 31. He added that an announcement could still come before the MLS season begins on March 19.

But Mr. Courtemanche also said MLS could announce just one new team by the end of the month, and introduce a second team in April. He said the league would take additional time if needed, but expected the process would be complete by next month at the latest.

That MLS is considering separate announcements further suggests that Vancouver will receive a franchise. The Whitecaps are the only remaining bidder with confirmed financial backing and a resolved stadium plan. The new team would play in a renovated B.C. Place Stadium, which will be fitted with a retractable roof.It is believed that negotiations between Vancouver's group, which includes NBA superstar Steve Nash and former Yahoo! Inc. president Jeff Mallett, and MLS revolve around the $40-million (U.S.) franchise fee. Many sports business experts considered that a steep price tag when expansion applications were submitted in October, and the economy has only worsened since.

A source said that, despite losing three bidders since the expansion process began, MLS considers the franchise fee non-negotiable. But the source added that MLS is well aware of the financial times and would be willing to discuss a method in which successful bidders could pay the fee over a longer period.

Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment paid just $10-million for Toronto FC, which joined the league in 2007 and instantly turned a $2.1-million profit.

A new team in Seattle begins play this month, and Philadelphia will be home to the league's 18th franchise in 2010. Both owners paid $30-million for their teams.

Mr. Kerfoot, who is intensely private and does not grant interviews, is a soccer philanthropist who has spent millions operating the Whitecaps and financing the Canadian women's national team. When reached by e-mail earlier this week, Mr. Mallett refused to comment, saying the group was in a "quiet period."

The Whitecaps are on a two-week exhibition tour in Tanzania, but team officials have stayed behind as MLS negotiations intensify.

"We aren't in a position to comment," Whitecaps president Bob Lenarduzzi said. "We still feel there is a lot to be discussed."

Because of the withdrawals, MLS's expansion process has effectively become a game of reasonable deduction. MLS received seven bids for new teams on Oct. 15, but Montreal, Atlanta and Miami have since pulled out. That left Vancouver, Ottawa, Portland, Ore., and St. Louis.

Yesterday, The Oregonian reported that discussions for two sports stadium projects between Portland officials and a local investor broke down on Thursday. Merritt Paulson, who is bidding for an MLS team, is asking the city to renovate an existing facility for soccer purposes, and build a new Triple-A baseball stadium.

Eugene Melnyk, owner of the NHL's Senators, is backing Ottawa's bid, but city council won't choose between competing stadium proposals until the end of next month.

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People seem to really be going out on a limb here. The only bids that were even CLOSE to Vancouver's have all bowed out for various reasons leaving them head and shoulders above the rest. All of the remaining hopeful cities have one or more issues with their bids. This turtle race is Vancouver's to lose, and if Portland can get their stadium issue solved, then they are a lock too.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2009, 6:10 AM
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if the MLS is picking two teams, who is left.

Ottawa - no stadium (so far)
St Louis - no money
Portland - no stadium (so far)

me thinks, kerfoot is the only team left and the MLS has some egg on its face.

even, if ottawa gets its stadium, i doubt the MLS will pick two canadian teams during this round of expansion. my bet will be st louis.
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A soccer guru from Fox Sports was interviewed on CKNW's soccer show last night, and according to him, it's a done deal that the MLS will announce the expansion into Vancouver and... Portland.

I must admit his enthusiasm was catchy as he discussed the new rivalries for the MLS involving Portland, Seattle, Vancouver and Toronto.
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even, if ottawa gets its stadium, i doubt the MLS will pick two canadian teams during this round of expansion. my bet will be st louis.
You're probably right. MLS is a US league who's focus is the US. Canada is an after thought. They have very little interest in building pro soccer right across Canada. They'd rather cherry pick a few cities and leave the rest of the country sitting on the sidelines just like they do in the other US leagues: MLB and the NHL.
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^ with the BC Place Stadium renovations, i don't see it happening for decades....and decades.
I would not mind if WhiteCaps stadium never gets built. Although it would be really cool to have a waterfront stadium.
The renovations to BC Place are expensive and it will look awesome. Better that BC Place get the maximum amount of use than have two stadiums being used under capacity.
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Anheuser-Busch joins St. Louis effort to secure MLS franchise

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Anheuser-Busch joins St. Louis effort to secure MLS franchise


Anheuser-Busch added clout to a St. Louis group seeking an MLS franchise Wednesday, offering its soccer facility as a possible site for a future stadium.

Jeff Cooper, the majority investor of St. Louis Soccer United, said adding Anheuser-Busch to the effort should get Major League Soccer's attention.

"It's huge. It's a turning point," Cooper said. "This commitment brings a lot of credibility to our bid, and shows the league how serious we are."

Anheuser-Busch's influence also figures to strengthen the St. Louis bid from a financial standpoint. League commissioner Don Garber said in January that the city's chances hinged on beefing up its investor base.

The group has centered its efforts on an 18,500-seat stadium yet to be built in nearby Collinsville, Ill. Plans for that facility have called for 12 synthetic turf fields and a professional grass training field, with groundbreaking to take place if the city is awarded a franchise.

Anheuser-Busch entered a letter of intent to transfer ownership of the Anheuser-Busch Center in St. Louis County, commonly referred to as Soccer Park, to the group. That stadium seats about 6,000 now, well short of MLS's minimum of about 15,000, but Cooper said capacity could approach 10,000 by adding bleachers along the goal lines.

Cooper referred to the site as one option.

"This is the best situation we could have hoped for," Cooper said. "Whether it throws us over the top, that's up to the MLS."

St. Louis is among four cities vying for two expansion franchises that would begin play in 2011 or 2012, along with Ottawa, Portland and Vancouver. St. Louis Cardinals star Albert Pujols, the NL MVP last year, is among the investors.

The group also owns the St. Louis Athletica team that will begin play this year in the new Women's Professional Soccer League. That team will play the bulk of its matches in its first season at Southern Illinois-Edwardsville.



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I think this may have come a little too late for St. Louis. Considering that the teams are supposed to be announced this month, the winning cities have no doubt already been decided upon well in advance, and if recent rumours are true then St. Louis is not going to be one of them.
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an interesting tibit from the Vancouversun

MONTREAL — The David Beckham era in Major League Soccer is officially over.

Yes, the over-hyped superstar will return to the Los Angeles Galaxy this summer, but what sort of reaction can you expect from fans in L.A. and around the league to a player who will play only half a season in a league he has already dissed as second-rate?

When the Galaxy signed Beckham two years ago, my fear was that MLS was headed down the same path that led to the demise of the North American Soccer League. The NASL was stocked with overpriced and over-the-hill superstars like Pele, Eusebio and Franz Beckenbauer. Their salaries eventually bankrupted the league and their presence slowed the development of local talent.

The problem with Beckham turned out to be that he wasn’t over the hill. His stock in England had gone down because of injuries and a questionable attitude, but he has rehabilitated himself in both areas and expects to be part of the English side for the 2010 World Cup.

To prepare for that event, Beckham said he has to play at the highest level and made it very clear that MLS doesn’t fall in that category, and that’s why he’s finishing the season with AC Milan. Nobody who knows soccer would disagree with Beckham’s evaluation of MLS. In fact, you can make an argument that MLS isn’t significantly better than the United Soccer Leagues First Division, the supposedly inferior league that includes the Montreal Impact.

But Beckham is being paid an extraordinary amount of money to provide MLS with some credibility, and the Galaxy and its partners can’t be happy with Beckham telling it like it is.

Beckham’s comments aren’t the only hit MLS has taken recently. The league is in the process of expanding, and it missed the chance to add a strong partner in Montreal when it refused to compromise on its exorbitant $40 million US franchise fee.

But the Saputo family, who own the Impact, aren’t the only people who balked at the fee. The principals behind FC Barcelona know a little something about the value of soccer franchises, and they withdrew their support of Miami’s MLS expansion bid because they thought the price was too high. An Atlanta group came to the same conclusion.

There are still four cities willing to put up the cash, especially since MLS appears ready to make a concession to the current tough economic times. The price is still $40 million, but there’s the possibility of paying on the instalment plan. The cities include Vancouver, which has an excellent chance of getting one of the two available franchises, and Ottawa, which seems to offer a recipe for disaster.

Vancouver has a history of successful soccer franchises. Ottawa doesn’t. Vancouver has a stadium. Ottawa doesn’t, although Eugene Melnyk — everyone’s favourite Ukranian-Barbadian — is pushing hard for a new facility near Scotiabank Place. Melnyk has said there will be no taxpayers’ money involved, but he might have meant there will be none of his taxpayer’s money because he has set up a tax shelter for himself in Barbados.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2009, 8:41 PM
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apparently, beckham has the rights to buy a MLS franchise and has said he will definitely after he stops playing.

personally, i think the MLS would be more fun to watch with posh playing instead
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Yes, the over-hyped superstar will return to the Los Angeles Galaxy this summer, but what sort of reaction can you expect from fans in L.A. and around the league to a player who will play only half a season in a league he has already dissed as second-rate?
sadly, compared to the Euro Leagues, the MLS is second-rate. its like the WHA compared to the NHL. its got all the excitement, and it IS soccer, but its not the bext of the best. and players can still make more money playing for Bayern Munich than they can playing for Houston Dynamo.

i actually agree with Beckham's reasoning for finishing the season with AC Milan. the scouts for the English national team are likely to over look Beckham if he plays like shit over here, but if he plays more mediocre at AC Milan, he'll get his spot on the World Cup team.
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I have said this a few times on here over the years, Vancouver was never competing for a bid, they were guaranteed it all along.
Remember its all about who you know and connections in the world of business.

Anyways im pretty sure I had more information about the situation than 99.99% of the people out there...

Too bad ticket prices will go up for a marginally upgraded product, but the Vancouver franchise will be successful, thats a guarantee..
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