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Old Posted Sep 2, 2017, 2:29 AM
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I know copps is going to need a good chunk of capital repairs in the near future. In particular the roof is reaching the end of its useful life. Won't be cheap to do.

Mac has their own plans to replace their pool with an olympic size venue.

Im sure the City and Mac would love provincial and federal funds for those two venues.

Just not sure the cost of hosting the games is worth it.

Perhaps a Hamilton Halton Niagara group bid? Heck throw kitchener waterloo in as well. If toronto is included it wont be a true golden horsehoe bid.

Again, if they cost some astronomical cost its not worth it. The commonwealth games are slighlty smaller than the pan ams. 5000 athletes vs 6000 and 260 events vs 360 events.
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Yeah, I just don't see the rationale.
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I think we can do it on a budget, under a billion. Maybe the most $750-800 million.

The majority of the cost will likely be a new Aquatics Centre, upgrading THF and sprucing up Copps. Can keep the budget tight if we let Milton host the velodrome event and rowing and kayaking to St. Catharines.
I'd be on board with that approach too. On a limited budget it may work (though where we'd host track and field athletics is a big question... a mostly temporary facility would have to be built)

Have to wonder about the appetite for senior level government investment though -- it won't have been that long since the province spent large on the Pan Ams, but the federal cupboard might be particularly bare if Calgary wins a bid for the 2026 Winter Olympics and much ends up being spent on World Cup stadium upgrades should the joint North American bid win for the same year.
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Lately international sporting events have been trying to cut the cost, for example LA for 2024 Olympics. All major sporting events since Rio have been trying to cut the cost of sporting events since many cities have backed away from bidding.

I think we can use the 2015 Pan Am Games to our advantage to try and keep the cost down, this alone would probably help our bid. Plus bringing the event back to the birthplace would be an excellent chance for Hamilton to modernize the Commonwealth Games, look at dropping some sports like netball, lawn bowls and tenpin bowling. Perhaps introduce soccer as a sport.
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Council vote (not final, they vote again next Weds) on preparing bid for 2030 Commonwealth Games
Y: 2,7,8,9,10,12
N: 1,3,4,5,11,13,15 #yhmcc
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The Mayor wasn't at council so that's another Yea vote.
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Bet this gets put over until the next council, even if they do direct staff to look at the pros and cons. Right now too many of the wafflers will worry about appearances to the more conservative "fix my potholes and limit my tax increase and I'm happy" voters.
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I think we have a decent shot to get the games based on 100 year sentimentality if we go after them. Having Trudeau in power helps federally. I'm kind of skeptical of the value, although getting money for a world class aquatics center I would be on board with. Hopefully existing sites like the velodrome in Milton would cut costs.
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And remember this is just for city council to let city staff to investigate if Hamilton should actually bid for the 2030 Games, as the founder of the Games we should at least investigate the benefits or weakness of a possible centenary Games bid.
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Hamilton council closes door on Commonwealth Games bid
https://www.thespec.com/news-story/7...lth-games-bid/

City council has refused to even study the possibility of hosting the 100th anniversary Commonwealth Games in 2030 despite the encouragement of Canadian games officials.

Mayor Fred Eisenberger made a last-ditch plea for council support Wednesday to seek information about possible costs and benefits of hosting the centennial games, which were born in Hamilton as the British Empire Games in 1930.

"Make an informed decision," he said, later adding council may ultimately decide its contribution to a $1-billion games is "too rich for our blood." But to do so without the facts, he said, would be "truly unfortunate."

A growing number of councillors decided Wednesday, however, that they already knew enough to say no.

"We need to focus on back-to-basics needs," said Coun. Sam Merulla, who argued taxpayers have already spent enough on sports infrastructure — particularly $145 million for a new Pan Am soccer and football stadium.

He argued there was a "collective sigh of relief" when a smaller number of councillors voted to recommend killing the bid study last week. An unscientific Spectator website poll showed about 70 per cent of 1,500-plus votes opposed doing the study.

Coun. Tom Jackson said he was feeling "games anxiety" following the challenges — and ongoing litigation — linked to the city's Pan Am Games experience, not to mention two past failed bids for the Commonwealth Games.

He recalled the disappointment and surprise experienced by council members who eagerly supported Hamilton bids in 2010 and 2014 only to lose out.

Ironically, Canadian Commonwealth Games organization officials have encouraged Hamilton to bid for 2030 because of the city's historic role as the birthplace of the event 100 years prior. CEO Brian MacPherson previously told The Spectator there is a "natural feeling" among international games organizers that centennial events "should go to the birthplace."

Other city leaders in Canada have indicated they are reluctant to express interest in a 2030 bid because the expectation is Hamilton had the inside track.

Some councillors said it was the wrong time to talk about possible large-scale expenditures given the city's commitment to a $1-billion, multi-year LRT project, redevelopment of the west harbour and efforts to cut into a $3-billion infrastructure backlog.

City staff said Wednesday there is a theoretical possibility that a new, post-election council could revisit a bid study in 2019 or later.

Eisenberger expressed hope that the debate "would rise again."
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