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Old Posted Feb 13, 2018, 10:35 PM
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Another Alta coming to Chicago? Walsh has Alta Grand listed as one of their bidding opportunities on their website. It could very well be something else, but I don't think so... I wasn't able to find anymore info about it, they must the in the early stages of development.


https://www.walshgroup.com/biddingopportunities.html
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Old Posted Feb 13, 2018, 10:41 PM
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Another Alta coming to Chicago? Walsh has Alta Grand listed as one of their bidding opportunities on their website. It could very well be something else, but I don't think so... I wasn't able to find anymore info about it, they must the in the early stages of development.
Maybe the Clark & Barlow site?
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$150 million?

Damn!
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2018, 2:31 AM
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No matter what the "official" name of JHC may change to, I seriously doubt ANYONE will ever refer to it by that name (except for perhaps the media, of course, due to legal constraints). Everyone will always refer to it as the Hancock, just like the vast majority of people still refer to the Sears Tower.

Not so sure on Standard Oil/Aon... Thoughts on that one?

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Thats interesting. Ive always called it Aon (probably because I wasn't alive when it was built)

But I have never referred to the Sears tower as anything else, Nor will I ever refer to the John Hancock as anything else. Or the IBM building for that matter. Maybe its something about black buildings
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2018, 3:01 AM
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Another Alta coming to Chicago? Walsh has Alta Grand listed as one of their bidding opportunities on their website. It could very well be something else, but I don't think so... I wasn't able to find anymore info about it, they must the in the early stages of development.


https://www.walshgroup.com/biddingopportunities.html
I'm guessing this is for Harrison and Wells. The last I saw this was not a very impressive development for the location sadly.
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Wait, so what is the $150 million project on that site?
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2018, 4:29 AM
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Wait, so what is the $150 million project on that site?
Runway 9c27c at O'hare, a new 11,000+ foot runway

More info: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...810-story.html
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Tribune says Carson's at Wells/Ontario is closing Monday, moving to River East.

Hopefully the structure and lot will be history not long after.
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2018, 1:59 PM
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Tribune says Carson's at Wells/Ontario is closing Monday, moving to River East.

Hopefully the structure and lot will be history not long after.
Great news! Hopefully apartment rises there and at Al's across the street. Next stop, the hooters corner down the street. Lets keep this canyon growing.
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2018, 2:07 PM
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Great news! Hopefully apartment rises there and at Al's across the street. Next stop, the hooters corner down the street. Lets keep this canyon growing.
Yep, the tribune says it was sold to a developer that plans a high rise. Wasn’t there a design for that lot that was on here a year or so ago from a Milwaukee architect / developer?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/dining...214-story.html
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Yep, the tribune says it was sold to a developer that plans a high rise. Wasn’t there a design for that lot that was on here a year or so ago from a Milwaukee architect / developer?
i believe it was a proposal called "Blanc" designed by Milwaukee's Rinka Chung Architects.

i have no idea if this is still the active proposal for the site in question.


source: http://www.rinkachung.com/#projects
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N. Wells St has had consistent high-rise construction for the past 3 years. It's hard not imagining this area become a new retail district
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If that Milwaukee one is still on the table i'll take it. I love how that area is staying unique to each building. Not just cookie cutter blue glass all along there.
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N. Wells St has had consistent high-rise construction for the past 3 years. It's hard not imagining this area become a new retail district
retail is dying
if anything there will be a pricey restaurant on the 1st floor
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Retail may become more experience-oriented. It's not going to flat-out die though. Someone will be interested in prime spaces. The suburban mega-mall is on its way out though.

Wells has potential from Chicago Ave. through the Loop. North of Chicago, there are too many institutional land uses. I don't see Moody or Payton going anywhere anytime soon.

Orleans would make a decent retail strip up through Division. It'd either fall of there, tie into infill development along Clybourn (Jewel, Mariano's, North/Clybourn area), or tie into the district on Wells.
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Sorry if this is a bit narrow minded . To all the Cubs fans I envy and admire , I just heard one of the cities iconic
towers is about to loose it's name . The John Hancock Tower was requested to remove it's name from this fantastic
addition to your skyline . One suggestion is to use its address until some other name can be selected .

No matter what name is used in the future , nothing can defer its magnificence and I sincerely hope it remains a star
for the city and its skyline for as long as there is a Chicago ..... Still second city for me .

OMG , I have to apologize . I don't visit that often and didn't realize this is ancient news ...... The beheading will take place shortly .
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If that Milwaukee one is still on the table i'll take it. I love how that area is staying unique to each building. Not just cookie cutter blue glass all along there.
I'm pretty sure that is still on the table. A year ago they were still talking about it in the present tense in an article talking with the developer, who I believe had an option on the property.

On the other hand, the original plan was for Carsons to re-occupy in the ground floor once the tower was complete, so it's possible that another developer swooped in and bought the land, or just that Carsons didn't want to be without a downtown location for over a year. Since Carson's is closing on Monday, I expect we'll hear more fairly soon.

This article is 20 months or so old, about that Blanc proposal:
https://chicago.curbed.com/2016/12/8...-wells-ontario

The Blanc's website is still live:
http://www.theblancchicago.com/
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I'm pretty sure that is still on the table. A year ago they were still talking about it in the present tense in an article talking with the developer, who I believe had an option on the property.

On the other hand, the original plan was for Carsons to re-occupy in the ground floor once the tower was complete, so it's possible that another developer swooped in and bought the land, or just that Carsons didn't want to be without a downtown location for over a year. Since Carson's is closing on Monday, I expect we'll hear more fairly soon.

This article is 20 months or so old, about that Blanc proposal:
https://chicago.curbed.com/2016/12/8...-wells-ontario

The Blanc's website is still live:
http://www.theblancchicago.com/
Well I hope this development is dead, because it's dreadful. For 31 condos you get 128 parking spaces, of which 84 are for "retail".

Now I don't know how things are in his hometown of Milwaukee, but in River North you don't need "retail parking" of that magnitude, if at all, unless we are talking a major destination retailer.

I mean, it's still like 1985 for some people. Literally, some people actually think that a retail space in downtown Chicago needs equally as much parking as a strip mall in Schaumburg. It's ludicrous! And zoning will probably wait until the year 2075 (when car ownership is at 4% and robots drive us everywhere) to finally say "duh.... I think we might not need all this parking, lets implement some parking maximums".

This project is crap. Throw it in the toilet, flush it, and start over.
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retail is dying
if anything there will be a pricey restaurant on the 1st floor
Nope, it certainly isn't, for Christ sake.
People want more and more of it at their 1st floors.

Malls are dying. We have a large distribution corporation here comparable to Walmart, that's called Carrefour that made the terrible mistake to bet on malls... Very bad, strategically awkward. Carrefour was 2nd to Walmart worldwide in their sector in 2001. They dropped to the 9th place in the ranking today, laying off people.

Their younger CEO is dramatically changing their strategy. Mostly about online shopping and urban 1st floor grocery stores, because people actually want both.
Suburban malls are losing here.
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Well I hope this development is dead, because it's dreadful. For 31 condos you get 128 parking spaces, of which 84 are for "retail".

Now I don't know how things are in that asshole's hometown of Milwaukee, but in River North you don't need "retail parking" of that magnitude, if at all, unless we are talking a major destination retailer.

I mean, it's bizarre. It's still like 1985 for some people. Literally, some people actually think that a retail space in downtown Chicago needs equally as much parking as a strip mall in Schaumburg. It's ludicrous! And the criminal fuckfaces in zoning will probably wait until the year 2075 (when car ownership is at 4% and robots drive us everywhere) to finally say "duh.... I think we might not need all this parking, lets implement some parking maximums".

This project is crap. Throw it in the toilet, flush it, and start over.
I agree about parking. I think the large number of spaces was for two reasons:

1) the condos are supposed to be larger than average and high end, meaning most of the owners will probably want parking and

2) when Carsons was planning to stay in the building, they probably wanted at least as many spaces as they currently have, and maybe a few more. Since Carsons isn't staying, that argument goes away so even if it's basically the same maybe they'll shave off some parking spaces or come up with a whole new concept.
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