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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 1:59 PM
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Since this is only a concept it might be beneficial to add the other concept for this site as well from AE7. I like this one much better not only because of the 70 story tower but because the architecture of the buildings in BIG's proposal makes the development appear to focus in on itself instead of the surrounding area.
Do we know anything more about this proposal? I think I like it even better than the BIG one. I wonder what the chances are on a scale of 1-10 that this will get built?

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Plus this one:
This one really looks interesting. I'm guessing that it's on the lot next to the Cardello building. Is this a preliminary rendering?
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 2:11 PM
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This one really looks interesting. I'm guessing that it's on the lot next to the Cardello building. Is this a preliminary rendering?
That's pretty clearly the "Chateau Landing" project which was first announced back in May 2016. It's supposed to be a Millcraft project, cost roughly $750 million, and include 850 units of housing.

I'm not sure if they ever secured the arrangement with the URA they needed to move the project forward. There has been no news at all about it this year.
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 3:04 PM
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Pittsburgh should have a signature Ferris Wheel, if only for historical purposes.
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 3:24 PM
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The city has posted two more zoning board hearings schedules - the last two for the year - one for 11/30, and one for 12/14. As is usually the case, these are mostly small projects. Some of interest - all from the 11/30 agenda - the 12/14 has nothing of note.

1. The Matthews International building reskin (which went before the Planning Commission earlier in the year) is now going before the zoning board.

2. A new three-story community home on Grove Street in the Middle Hill. It's a nice location, pretty close to existing amenities on Centre Avenue like the YMCA, Carnegie Library, and Zone 2 police station.

3. Two infill townhouses on Hatfield Street in Central Lawrenceville. I used to about a five minute walk from this location - it's shocking how rapidly every vacant lot is now being filled in.

4. A new seven-story mixed-use building with attached parking in the Strip District. It will be constructed here, at the corner of Smallman and 21st, immediately adjacent to St. Stanislaus Church. It's a Desmone project, so I'm pessimistic about how the design will turn out. No information about unit count, but IIRC there were no residential plans for this site - just ground-floor retail and office space above, so that would make sense.

The final planning commission presentation of the year should go up this Friday (or maybe late Thursday). We're done with HRC presentations until February, so we'll be entering the slow season when it comes to official reports.

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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 3:30 PM
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So. Much. Scrolling. Looking good, thanks Austin!
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 3:48 PM
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Pittsburgh should have a signature Ferris Wheel, if only for historical purposes.
It would be really cool if it had similar dimensions and look to the original (obviously with modern technology and other necessary adjustments to make it a viable attraction).

We've talked about possible locations before. I like the idea of it being next to the Fort Pitt tunnel/bridge, but Chateau has some appeal as well, mainly because that is such a nice angle, but also because it does sort of fit in with the entertainment complex vibe we are developing along that stretch.
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This one really looks interesting. I'm guessing that it's on the lot next to the Cardello building. Is this a preliminary rendering?
All I know is it is included in this document:
https://issuu.com/ae-7/docs/ae7_all_domestic_legal
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 4:36 PM
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That's pretty clearly the "Chateau Landing" project which was first announced back in May 2016. It's supposed to be a Millcraft project, cost roughly $750 million, and include 850 units of housing.

I'm not sure if they ever secured the arrangement with the URA they needed to move the project forward. There has been no news at all about it this year.
There were some notes on it in this September 19 article about possible Amazon HQ sites:

https://www.post-gazette.com/busines...s/201709190053

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Another potential site emerged Monday — 15 acres of riverfront industrial property on the North Side near Rivers Casino targeted for redevelopment by Millcraft Investments. . . .

Washington County-based Millcraft Invesments has been working with two other developers to convert the former J. Allan Steel property, the Eles Concrete Facility, and other parcels on the North Side into a mixed-use project that could involve retail, restaurants, a large marina, a hotel, offices and an entertainment district. The Pittsburgh Urban Redevelopment Authority, which owns the J. Allan Steel site and another parcel, has entered into negotiations with Millcraft for the sale of the land on Beaver Avenue in Chateau.

Millcraft president Lucas Piatt said Monday he had spoken to city and county officials about the properties regarding Amazon and is putting together a presentation. Mr. Fitzgerald said it could be a candidate. The redevelopment, called Esplanade, could house several million square feet of office space, Mr. Piatt said. Millcraft also sees the potential for an extension of the light rail transit system to the property, which is just west of the casino.

Apparently the new name is Esplanade, which led me to this article as well (from the next day):

http://www.thenorthsidechronicle.com...lorful-future/

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With Chateau sitting on valuable riverfront property, development companies have taken an interest. One such company is the Pittsburgh based Millcraft Industries, which is currently working on a 15-acre project called ‘Esplanade,’ which means “a promenade over water.” Esplanade plans to transform the Chateau neighborhood into a mixed residential and business district.

“This project will include a wide mix of apartments, condos, and workforce housing opportunities along with a full-service hotel, community-oriented retail and service businesses, entertainment and restaurants,” said Millcraft president and COO, Lucas Piatt. The project is also expected to improve and expand upon current walking and biking trails, public transportation, and roads in Chateau.
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 4:41 PM
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4. A new seven-story mixed-use building with attached parking in the Strip District. It will be constructed here, at the corner of Smallman and 21st, immediately adjacent to St. Stanislaus Church. It's a Desmone project, so I'm pessimistic about how the design will turn out. No information about unit count, but IIRC there were no residential plans for this site - just ground-floor retail and office space above, so that would make sense.
Just for additional background, here is a prior post with a linked P-G article about that project:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19921

A 7-story, 104 ft tall building there sounds good to me. Wanting it to be 550 ft long implies they want to fill the whole parcel between 21st and 23rd.
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 4:51 PM
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It's about time Chateau begins to realize its potential!
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It's about time Chateau begins to realize its potential!
Hopefully in time to save the prison, which could become a very cool tourist attraction.

By the way, I am pretty sure it filled in as multiple different prisons in the Netflix show Mindhunter, which was interesting in general.
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Just for additional background, here is a prior post with a linked P-G article about that project:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19921

A 7-story, 104 ft tall building there sounds good to me. Wanting it to be 550 ft long implies they want to fill the whole parcel between 21st and 23rd.
Yeah, I knew it had been discussed before. I just wish there was a rendering floating out there on the web. I have no confidence in Desmone.
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For the second time this month, another airline has announced a new non stop destination from PIT. This time, it's Air Canada and non stop service to Montreal. Service begins in May, will be daily, and will only take about an hour and a half to get to both cities. I am a little impressed PIT was able to snag this, didn't think this area would have enough demand for service to the city, but PIT is paying out much less involved with this flight compared to the Seattle and European ones recently announced so the airline must feel this will do well without much marketing. I am excited though as Montreal is one of my favorite places to visit and this will make it much easier to get there.


http://www.post-gazette.com/news/tra...s/201711290114
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For the second time this month, another airline has announced a new non stop destination from PIT. This time, it's Air Canada and non stop service to Montreal. Service begins in May, will be daily, and will only take about an hour and a half to get to both cities. I am a little impressed PIT was able to snag this, didn't think this area would have enough demand for service to the city, but PIT is paying out much less involved with this flight compared to the Seattle and European ones recently announced so the airline must feel this will do well without much marketing. I am excited though as Montreal is one of my favorite places to visit and this will make it much easier to get there.


http://www.post-gazette.com/news/tra...s/201711290114
There are probably enough demand from leisure and Bombardier related passengers to justify a 50 passenger plane.

Admittedly, I don't know how the economics of how airlines pick routes, but one would think that PIT could achieve more direct routes with airlines operating smaller planes. Despite the Southwest approach, not every route has to be flown on a 737 to be feasible does it? Maybe I'm just longing for the days when USAir was flying little Embraer jets from PIT to every airport east of the Mississippi.
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Admittedly, I don't know how the economics of how airlines pick routes, but one would think that PIT could achieve more direct routes with airlines operating smaller planes. Despite the Southwest approach, not every route has to be flown on a 737 to be feasible does it? Maybe I'm just longing for the days when USAir was flying little Embraer jets from PIT to every airport east of the Mississippi.
Routes have certain fixed costs related to things like gates, marketing, and so on. And there is also a quirk to fuel economics based on the fact takeoffs and landings consume so much fuel, and lower-level cruising takes more fuel than higher-level cruising, all of which is why short hops are not as fuel efficient as you might otherwise think.

By the way, love Montreal. Great get.
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Eighth & Penn

I noticed this morning on my way out of downtown that the first story of steel has gone up this week at the 8th & Penn site. I didn't have a chance to grab a picture, but it'll be fun to see the above-grade work pick up at this development.
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I walk down Penn Avenue quite often and should be able to share some photos of the 8th and Penn construction soon.

Speaking of steel going up, Riverlife has shared these photos from yesterday of the Mon Wharf Switchback project.



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I was wrong in what I posted the other day - there is a December HRC presentation, which is now online. I swear I didn't even see a row for it the other day when I checked. Nine items on the agenda, as usual, most are small residential projects on the North Side. New items of interest:

1. Rehab of 926 Western Avenue. I'm mostly noting this because it's also clear Allegheny West is going to get a coffeeshop (a second location of the Shadyside Adda Coffee & Tea House). The building is already in semi-decent shape, and the changes are not dramatic. There will be a rear deck with some seating, which will be nice in summer months however.

2. More details involving the 606 Cedar Avenue rehab, which has been already before the zoning board. This project involves restoring an eight-unit apartment building, adding an elevator, changing the front entrance to be at grade, repair/replacement of front balconies, new rear windows, and improvements to a rear courtyard. It's a small project, but will be a nice improvement to the area.
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And, as soon as I posted the HRC update, the last planning commission presentation of the year also went live. Four new items on the angenda for next week:

1. Historic nomination for Roslyn Place - that wooden street in Shadyside. I was a bit confused, because the street was up for nomination earlier in the year, but it appears the property owners are now moving to have the homes themselves protected. I can see why the owners are doing this - it's one of the few streets in Shadyside where all the homes were built around the same time period/to the same scale, and every home has escaped remuddling. Compared to the average historic nomination, the documentation is a bit skimpy however.

2. 604 Liberty Avenue is getting a renovation. As a bit of backstory, PNC originally intended to demolish this building, along with the two to its right, for better access into the loading dock of their tower which now includes the Fairmont. However, the guy who owned the convenience store building refused to sell at any price, which left them with two buildings they didn't need. 604 Liberty has been vacant for 15+ years. Currently it is only zoned for ground-floor retail, with the upper stories as storage, but the plan is to have all three stories as retail - a likely necessity considering the very small floor plates. A total reskin of the facade to a light-colored tile with large windows is also planned, which in no way resembles the facade prior to remuddling, but will be a step up.

3. The first concrete plans for the I-579 cap have been unveiled. The project's total cost is estimated at $26.4 million, and will establish new public green space between Bigelow Boulevard, Centre Avenue, Washington place, and Chatham Street. In addition, a crescent of current open space to the north just across Bigelow Boulevard will be improved. IMHO the design is a bit too hardscaped, with too many pavers and not enough trees, but I am guessing there is a limitation to how much planting can take place on a highway cap.

4. Buncher is formally proposing the planned Waterfront Place Townhomes - 46 units of attached housing to be placed on a thin strip of land between the back side of the Terminal Building and the larger-scale buildings (including Riverfront Landing - the apartment building already under construction) closer to the river. This project is being done by my wife's firm, and I had no clue it was them (I sometimes see renderings of projects not yet publicly discussed, but she's asked me not to blab, so I don't). I think the design is a nice mix of new traditional and contemporary (it tries to call to existing form without trying to be fake historic buildings). I still feel like it's a bit too small scale for the site, however, and the lack of any private green space at all is just bad design for a townhouse (the back garages front on a driveway, and then a tiny sliver of grass and trees is the only thing which blocks it from the Produce Terminal lot. Some sort of skinny apartment building would have been preferable, even if the structured parking would have been problematic.
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Speaking of Riverfront Landing...

11/30/2017










Not exactly earth shattering news, but I also noticed that the Iron Workers Union on Liberty is adding something to the back of their building. (The side against 23rd that used to be parking.)

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