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Old Posted Nov 1, 2017, 4:43 AM
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Things are looking good for the future of the Manitoba Liberal Party.

Dougald Lamont has won or nearly won the leadership race.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...2017-1.4365954
Pallister has bungled health care and this carbon tax is just a money grab, Pallister implementing a carbon tax with things like the price of gasoline to rising 5 cents a litre and then says we haven’t decided what we will spend that money on!

As far as the NDP who do they even appeal to other than unionized public service employees, they certainly don’t represent the poor and working class!

Liberals may have a good shot as long as they don’t try to emulate the NDP.
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Well, my enthusiasm with Pallister now rests largely on the fact that the NDP with Selinger would have done worse. I think he's screwed up some easy opportunities.
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So Pallister breaks his arm while hiking in New Mexico...

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Pallister has bungled health care and this carbon tax is just a money grab, Pallister implementing a carbon tax with things like the price of gasoline to rising 5 cents a litre and then says we haven’t decided what we will spend that money on!

As far as the NDP who do they even appeal to other than unionized public service employees, they certainly don’t represent the poor and working class!

Liberals may have a good shot as long as they don’t try to emulate the NDP.
I wouldn't say Palliser bungled Health Care up, wait times are improving at ER's and apparently with certain tests such as Ultra sounds. Granted it's still early to say the wait times have improved without a larger sample size.

Carbon Tax isn't his choice, the feds are mandating the provinces to implement the tax.

I may be the exception but the NDP doesn't appeal to me... and I'm one of those Unionized Public Employees.
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Marijuana being sold at private businesses - good!

Marijuana legal age of 19 - just flat out stupid.

Hopefully that minimum age thing can get changed to 18 (which is a complete no-brainer) when a less "rural" based government get in power again.
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Marijuana being sold at private businesses - good!

Marijuana legal age of 19 - just flat out stupid.

Hopefully that minimum age thing can get changed to 18 (which is a complete no-brainer) when a less "rural" based government get in power again.
I don't agree with the legal age being 19 either but I understand the argument. This way nobody in high school will be of legal age to purchase Marijuana. I don't think the age will be changed even with a new government. It's not really a priority issue to change the age up an extra year.
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I wouldn't say Palliser bungled Health Care up, wait times are improving at ER's and apparently with certain tests such as Ultra sounds. Granted it's still early to say the wait times have improved without a larger sample size.
The healthcare changes involving ER closures and conversions to urgent care was initiated during the Selinger days. They launched the studies for that and the results suggested closing ERs. Implemented changes coincided with Pallister in power.

Our ERs were way too inconsistent (certain specialist here, others there) so by consildating them, all ERs can offer the same services. Our resources were spread too thin among such a high ER per capita relative to other canadian cities. Having a more efficient system appears to be reducing wait times, which the PC government is taking full credit for.

What Pallister is doing though is cutting the WRHA budget which will lead to staff cuts. That has yet to be truly materialized and it remains to be seen how that could impact the system so shortly after the changes to make it more effective and efficient.
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I don't agree with the legal age being 19 either but I understand the argument. This way nobody in high school will be of legal age to purchase Marijuana. I don't think the age will be changed even with a new government. It's not really a priority issue to change the age up an extra year.
It's just stupid because it flies in the face of the point of the legalization - that is to get the product and it's profits off the streets.

Making it 19 instead of 18 just means more opportunity for people to make $$ selling weed to kids.

Kids are still going to get the stuff no matter what the legal age is, but this inexplicable extra year for pot just doesn't make any sense to me.
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What Pallister is doing though is cutting the WRHA budget which will lead to staff cuts. That has yet to be truly materialized and it remains to be seen how that could impact the system so shortly after the changes to make it more effective and efficient.
From what I've heard is the cuts will total $1billion, maybe 50% of the health care budget. I don't know how they will find that much in efficiencies.
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It's just stupid because it flies in the face of the point of the legalization - that is to get the product and it's profits off the streets.

Making it 19 instead of 18 just means more opportunity for people to make $$ selling weed to kids.

Kids are still going to get the stuff no matter what the legal age is, but this inexplicable extra year for pot just doesn't make any sense to me.
I'm guessing it has to do with marijuana use and its effect on the developing brain in late teens to early 20's. Personally think 19 is half assing it. Either push it further into the 20's or keep it at 18.
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It's just stupid because it flies in the face of the point of the legalization - that is to get the product and it's profits off the streets.

Making it 19 instead of 18 just means more opportunity for people to make $$ selling weed to kids.

Kids are still going to get the stuff no matter what the legal age is, but this inexplicable extra year for pot just doesn't make any sense to me.
My main issue with legalization is the potential effects on the illegal drug market. I know some health professionals and psychologists who do not directly have much issue with marijuana, but moreso the the fact that we're not considering the psychology of the provider ie dealer, whose job we just took away.

They anticipate a strong increase in dealing of harsher drugs, because dealers need a job and a new product. I never was a fan of weed, but could get on board with legalization since everyone is doing it already, and it makes it regulated and safer. We might be entering a new era where "everybody does" the illegal drugs anyway, except those aren't marijuana anymore, but more dangerous substances.

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I'm guessing it has to do with marijuana use and its effect on the developing brain in late teens to early 20's. Personally think 19 is half assing it. Either push it further into the 20's or keep it at 18.
It's completely irrelevant anyways. I'm in my 50s and we could always get pot when I was in my teens. Do people think that has somehow changed? When my kid was in high school a couple years ago she told me almost all the kids in high school smoked pot. That will never change despite a law categorizing it as somehow different than liquor. Stupid.
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From what I've heard is the cuts will total $1billion, maybe 50% of the health care budget. I don't know how they will find that much in efficiencies.
It's easy. They are basically cutting everything that isn't an essential service. There are a lot of cost overruns in the WRHA. For example, the WRHA had a Patient Safety and Quality Improvement department which was run out of the head office while still having "officers" at each hospital site to deal with specific complaints from the public. So, sometimes, it would be each site representative who would deal with the specific issues, but at other times it would be dealt with through the main office. Now, the PS and QI department has been completely gutted and just the site reps remain. Which, quite honestly, makes sense to me.

The provincial government just released the MHSAL Wait Times Reduction Report: https://www.gov.mb.ca/health/wtrtf.html
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...-end-1.4478525

They wouldn't throw, hard working "Silent Generation / Depression Era" people (now in their 80s) on the streets, would they?

Mind, you with the way that that generation of people treated their Gen X children (abuse), maybe Pallister Gov't should pull the strings from underneath them.
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Seniors worry they'll be homeless after Manitoba Housing subsidies end

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...-end-1.4478525

They wouldn't throw, hard working "Silent Generation / Depression Era" people (now in their 80s) on the streets, would they?

Mind, you with the way that that generation of people treated their Gen X children (abuse), maybe Pallister Gov't should pull the strings from underneath them.
Well we just had another smart African walking across the border seeking refugee status from the US and as usual this one froze his hands and spending time in hospital and eating up our tax dollars for medical care. Add the expense of the two other Africans who froze their hands off and have been collecting welfare ever since and there are your tax dollars that could have been used to subsidize Canadian seniors.

Free ride for those who what they once called crossing illegally at the expense of Canadian taxpayers, keep voting Liberal!
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You don't think Canada should take in refugees? Not surprised. Or maybe just keep out the ones "from Africa"?

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You don't think Canada should take in refugees? Not surprised. Or maybe just keep out the ones "from Africa"?
A refugee from the US? Give me a break, I have no problem with legal immigration or taking in refugees, I do have a problem with those illegally crossing into Canada unchecked as should everyone else with a brain.
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A refugee from the US? Give me a break, I have no problem with legal immigration or taking in refugees, I do have a problem with those illegally crossing into Canada unchecked as should everyone else with a brain.
They aren't illegal. If they are then they are sent back. Educate yourself.
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They anticipate a strong increase in dealing of harsher drugs, because dealers need a job and a new product.
I'd kind of think the opposite. Right now, your weed dealer probably already sells other substances.

When weed is legalized, you'll buy it from a place that *only* deals in weed.

In other words, I'll go from having to deal with people who sell all sorts of drugs (with whatever risks you think may come with that) to not having to ever deal with anyone who sells hard drugs.
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A refugee from the US? Give me a break,
They're not claiming to be from the US. It's not unusual for refugees to cross several countries where they're unwelcome, to reach a safe haven.

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I do have a problem with those illegally crossing into Canada
Actually the standard practice is to immediately turn themselves into police or border officials. As such, they're not crossing illegally.

The problem is that thanks to an agreement with the US, they can't turn themselves in at official border crossings and still get their refugee claim heard.

That was OK until recently; they could claim refugee status in the US. But not any more now that white nationalists control the US government.
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