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Originally Posted by esquire
^ In my experience, griping about media liberal bias is generally an expression of anger over media outlets that don't act like conservative cheerleaders the same way that Fox News or AM talk radio outlets do. e.g., "if you aren't actively vilifying socialism, you're in bed with them!", that kind of thing.
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I'm not sure I can follow that.
In Canada Fox is villified because we love nothing more than to appear nicer than the US, and FOX has a lot of common enemies in the US. Many of the earned enemies. Nonetheless, they bring up some perspectives that are easily opposed by nice Canada since they aren't our problems to begin with.
I do however have a problem with some of their views and definitely their style. It's also unfair to assume that Canadian conservatives are like Fox viewership or like Fox programming, but that's a natural assumption. Some however just like it more than the other stuff, which isn't centrist, but likes to say it is. Conservatives have felt politically cornered for a while and the instinct then is to bark, while all others shout "look how loud they're barking". I don't think it's smart to bark, but I'm not surprised.
Nonetheless, Fox isn't my fight nor my network.
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Originally Posted by drew
The only common denominator I find with people who complain about media "bias" are those who have a very conservative viewpoint.
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Well... um... that's how you know it's obvious.
If the left say it's fair, and conservatives are saying that they're views are either poorly represented or ignored, OF COURSE the left is going to say it's fair! The left has never admitted to having a media advantage for obvious reasons; the gig would be up. How many times do you see Blake Wheeler saying "yeah, the ref practically put the puck in their net for us"? You'd just keep quite and move on. It's like a texan saying "those Winnipeggers complain about the cold a lot". Perhaps it's annoying, but the Winnipegger knows the texan doesn't know what it feels like.
Not sure if that comparison is foolproof lol.
It is kind of weird to hear liberals, or atleast non-conservatives to say "no, your views are well represented, and this is what they are, not what you think they are."
But conservative rage does need to be tempered. If it isn't, then it it helps Fox justify their ways and that doesn't help conservatives
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Originally Posted by Tacheguy
imo the mainstream American media is divided between the right and the hard right. unless you read such material as Harpers or the Guardian, which few people do, there is very little mainstream exposure to the types of viewpoints that are common in progressive countries. I know others will disagree but I believe that is a huge problem in the US and is responsible in large part for the worsening social problems you see down there.
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For what it's worth, republican views aren't always conservative in a true sense, but man, the mainstream media down there is definitely neither republican nor conservative. I have not in my life heard anyone make a claim such as above.
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Originally Posted by drew
Are you remembering correctly? The FP basically lead the angry mob with pitch forks against Kinew to a level that was almost comical - if it wasn't being presented daily on the front page of our major newspaper.
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That's because he was an NDP leader and he's aboriginal. I have nothing against aboriginals but I do have issues with the NDP, and the FP is apologists for both when they are in trouble. Pallister got in trouble for making a comment about someone's high heels, perhaps slightly inappropriate but certainly stupidly clumsy, and had he done what Kinew had done... well you know.
Patrick Brown's conservative career is over, and while I don't know if he's guilty or not, neither does anyone else... that's the problem... no due dilligence. Any conservative will get hung, and maybe a left politician also, depending on circumstances.
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Originally Posted by Ando
Skylar's favourite paper, the Winnipeg Sun, is the most blatantly political. Remember Sun TV, it was so ridiculously ideological that no one ended up watching, except extreme right-wingers, and it ended up going off the air.
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They picked a wrong approach by going for the angry angle like FOX. But A lot of their points were by no means far-right, but just normal-right. Yet people take the tone and run with it, and perpetuate the "extremity" of it.
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Originally Posted by Ando
Well in reading through your omnibus responses, the Borg Cube of Skyscraper, I notice you generally promote views rather on the right side of the spectrum, you sometimes have a rather condescending attitude to those who put forward views not in sync with yours, and you often try to soften your image up by saying stuff like, not to be ass, but ...
That's what I was trying to put across.
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I'm well spoken
JK...
I know I come across this way sometimes, generally unintentional. I also sometimes say things that I feel need to be said, knowing they could be unwelcome, or could have the thought behind them clouded by the potential emotional reaction they draw up... since I genuinely don't want to be an ass to people, I may lead with that.
And, nerd, I had to google the Borg Cube
I lol'd!
I know my mostly-right-wing views creep up in some topics but I try to be open about it. However, a lot of my positions may appear right wing but are economically driven. and striking a balance with social and financial matter imposed by a development, I'm not asking myself "what do I want" but rather "but what will work"? Or what will work best.
The other thing I suck at is letting things go when I see questions or views perpetuated that I've already answered. To a strong degree, dealing with markets and financial matters is my forte. I probably push that too hard sometimes, but we're in a real estate forum. Markets and financial matters are chief here, barring unique circumstances.