Surrey Langley Skytrain - Expo Line Extension | Proposed

[WarrenC12]

Is 2028 realistic? That will be only 2 years after the Arbutus extension. Great if it works out.

[Stainer]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Is 2028 realistic? That will be only 2 years after the Arbutus extension. Great if it works out.

From what I've read, yes.

Compared to the BSP, it's a super simple extension. No tunnels, no interchangers, nothing technically challenging, other than some deep piles in the ALR.

(But I just make videos on the internet, definitely not an engineer)

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Stainer

From what I've read, yes.

Compared to the BSP, it's a super simple extension. No tunnels, no interchangers, nothing technically challenging, other than some deep piles in the ALR.

(But I just make videos on the internet, definitely not an engineer)

Hopefully you're right, and it can be constructed all at once. 16kms is longer than the Canada Line!

[madog222]

Being 100% elevated this is also the longest continuously elevated section of the network built to date. This should be relatively simple to construct with low risk of delays as compared to the other lines.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Stainer

No tunnels, no interchangers, nothing technically challenging, other than some deep piles in the ALR.

Yeah the ALR is the only part that concerns me. I rem someone on here comparing the ground there to peanut butter, so deep piles are essential.

I'm hoping they do something similar to what happened when the Millennium Line first opened and start running to the first few stations for testing before opening the whole line. Then we might have a connection to Fleetwood while they're still working on the ALR section (which is the part I think is going to take the longest to build).

[SkytrainCar026]

The stations contract has been announced, with Acciona getting it:

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2024MOTI0049-000546

[BaddieB]

Originally Posted by SkytrainCar026

The stations contract has been announced, with Acciona getting it:

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2024MOTI0049-000546

Nevermind guys, this thing is opening in 2049

How did the government approve of this, considering the North Shore Treatment plant issue

[kja384]

Well it's a team, not just Acconia. Sure Acconia fucked the North Shore plant, but aren't they also doing the new bridge, the new Millenium Line and a few other projects?

[officedweller]

The North Shore Treatment Plant seems to have been a unique problem due to the constrained site
(they claim all the reinforcing steel required (due to soft soils maybe?) made the rooms too small to fit the required equipment):

https://canada.constructconnect.com/...attle-heats-up

The SkyTrain line is pretty much cookie cutter / been there done that many times before.

[madog222]

It’s two completely separate divisions of Acciona. Acciona Infrastructure is also currently building the Broadway Subway, we should soon learn how delayed that project is. So far there hasn’t been any reports of substandard or incorrect construction.

It’s also notable to bring up that Aecon is part of the Crosslinx consortium building the disaster which is Eglinton Crosstown. Dragonos from the guideway contract are also in Crosslinx.

[jollyburger]

For anyone interested there's a BCUC documents on BC Hydro's servicing of the extension.

The current distribution system in proximity to the planned Surrey Langley SkyTrain Line is made up of shared 25kV circuits supplied from Whalley, Fleetwood, Harvie Road and McLellan substations. It largely consists of overhead pole lines that run along Fraser Highway, intermittently from 138 Street in Surrey to 203 Street in Langley, and along cross streets.

For the new Surrey Langley Skytrain Line, the Province has requested new service from BC Hydro to supply electricity to nine propulsion power stations and to its operations and maintenance facility by July 2027. This represents a load increase of 10.9 MW. Propulsion power stations convert the high-voltage BC Hydro supply to the low-voltage power supplied to the SkyTrain line for use by the trains. Each propulsion power station is expected to have a maximum demand of approximately 1.2 MW.

In the event of a power failure, continuous train operation will be disrupted if power and voltage support to the line is not maintained. To minimize the risk of this occurring, the Province has requested, and BC Hydro has determined that it is reasonable, to supply the propulsion power stations from three dedicated distribution circuits from two different substations with no three adjacent propulsion power stations being connected to the same circuit. This configuration will allow a propulsion power station that is still receiving power to support the load and maintain continued operation of the Surrey Langley Skytrain Line if an adjacent power propulsion station experiences a power outage.

https://www.bcuc.com/OurWork/ViewPro...icationid=1231

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

For anyone interested there's a BCUC documents on BC Hydro's servicing of the extension.

Very interesting, thanks for posting.

I feel lucky to live in a country where people think about this kind of stuff and we have the luxury to implement it. For all the gripes people have on any number of topics, all in all I think we're pretty d@mn fortunate.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

For anyone interested there's a BCUC documents on BC Hydro's servicing of the extension.

https://www.bcuc.com/OurWork/ViewPro...icationid=1231

THANKS!

OMC LOCATED!
between 176 St. and 184 St. Power Substations.

I wonder if they could run a branch line from the OMC to Cloverdale?


https://docs.bcuc.com/documents/proc...nes-public.pdf


https://www.google.com/maps/place/17...sstg?entry=ttu

[madog222]

Great spotting officedweller!

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by officedweller

THANKS!

OMC LOCATED!
between 176 St. and 184 St. Stations.

What's up with that dot at 176th Street - there isn't a station there. There's a station at 166th and then it travels across the ALR to 184th.


Surrey Langley SkyTrain

[officedweller]

Maybe a future station?
It's in the ALR, so no densification there, but it would be on Hwy 15 - so bus connection to Cloverdale?

[madog222]

Originally Posted by Sheba

What's up with that dot at 176th Street - there isn't a station there. There's a station at 166th and then it travels across the ALR to 184th.

It’s a map of the Propulsion Power Station locations, not the stations. Though most will be collocated.

[madog222]

I believe I have found the exact location of OMC 5. 17916 Fraser Hwy, a 36 acre property in the south east corner of the Fraser Hwy and 176th intersection.

It is currently not part of the ARL (I believe it was formerly) and is listed as being owned by a crown agency on the ARL GIS map.
It was sold in November last year for $8 million. That is a low low price compared to Translink's previous estimate of $150M for land acquisition, it's very clear now why the Province took over the project.


Image from Provincial Agricultural Land Commission

[officedweller]

Nice work!
That would be well placed to serve a branch line to Cloverdale!

Originally Posted by madog222

It’s a map of the Propulsion Power Station locations, not the stations. Though most will be collocated.

I misread that at the top of the map! Thanks.

[jollyburger]

Was the $150 million number when they wanted the OMC near the terminus possibly?

December 11, 2023

PROVINCE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA
ORDER OF THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IN COUNCIL
Order in Council No. , Approved and Ordered
Lieutenant Governor
Executive Council Chambers, Victoria
page 1 of 2
On the recommendation of the undersigned, the Lieutenant Governor, by and with the advice and consent of the
Executive Council, orders that the attached Order Respecting Land in the Agricultural Land Reserve (Surrey Langley
Skytrain Operations and Maintenance Centre) is made.

The property described below is excluded from the agricultural land reserve, as
defined in the Agricultural Land Commission Act:

https://www.bclaws.gov.bc.ca/civix/d..._cur/0709_2023

Seems like the lot across the street is for sale (ALR)?

17911 Fraser Hwy
$6,698,000
Surrey Development Site 67.64 Acres

https://macdonaldcommercial.com/list...ser-hwy-surrey