[Halifax] Parkland at the Common (6009 Quinpool) | 78 m | 25 fl | U/C - Page 18

Colin May · #**341** Posted **Oct 11, 2019, 1:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by Keith P.

I was thinking of those who were part of the State Street debacle around the time of the 2008 financial meltdown.

We'll never know who was responsible; I assume they have moved on.

Keith P. · #**342** Posted **Oct 11, 2019, 9:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by Colin May

We'll never know who was responsible; I assume they have moved on.

This is HRM, remember. They could have been promoted by now.

midasmull · #**343** Posted **Oct 11, 2019, 12:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keith P.

This is HRM, remember. They could have been promoted by now.

The CIO at that time was Terri Troy who has since moved on - the rest of the HRM team appears to be young enough that they wouldn't have been involved. My understanding is that the managers of the Pension Plan have no involvement with the management of that the HRM takes in (whether it be property taxes, fees, or affordable housing payments) so the HRM is free to mismanage it in their own special way.

Querce · #**344** Posted **Nov 9, 2019, 7:04 AM**

This is before the Halifax and West Community Council this week, hopefully for the last time

https://www.halifax.ca/city-hall/com...munity-council

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...13hwcc1012.pdf

midasmull · #**345** Posted **Nov 18, 2019, 7:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Querce

This is before the Halifax and West Community Council this week, hopefully for the last time

https://www.halifax.ca/city-hall/com...munity-council

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...13hwcc1012.pdf

Looks like this has been approved. Hopefully we'll see some demolition equipment on site soon.

IanWatson · #**346** Posted **Nov 19, 2019, 12:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by midasmull

Looks like this has been approved. Hopefully we'll see some demolition equipment on site soon.

I know tenants are being moved out. The Sexual Health Clinic is relocating to Bayers Road.

Dmajackson · #**347** Posted **Feb 28, 2020, 1:46 AM**

Global News - "Willow Tree Tower site to become seniors home"

Shannex has purchased this property. Demolition is set to occur this spring. They are vague about the plans for the property but just say it will meet all of the conditions from the amendments approved in November.

mleblanc · #**348** Posted **Feb 28, 2020, 2:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by Dmajackson

Global News - "Willow Tree Tower site to become seniors home"

Shannex has purchased this property. Demolition is set to occur this spring. They are vague about the plans for the property but just say it will meet all of the conditions from the amendments approved in November.

What a shame to hear. I was excited with this development and what it would bring to Quinpool. Wonder what we're going to get now? (visual wise)

Although I'm sure all the NIMBY's that shot down the 30+ storey tower for this site years ago will be excited to meet all their new neighbours. And all the deliveries, ambulances, staff, and visitors that come with a seniors complex instead of retail, young families, etc that would have come with the other development.

TheNovaScotian · #**349** Posted **Feb 28, 2020, 6:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by Dmajackson

Global News - "Willow Tree Tower site to become seniors home"

Shannex has purchased this property. Demolition is set to occur this spring. They are vague about the plans for the property but just say it will meet all of the conditions from the amendments approved in November.

This ought to help fix the housing crisis in Halifax...

Drybrain · #**350** Posted **Feb 28, 2020, 12:20 PM**

Seniors' housing is needed, but given Shannex's track record I don't hold out much hope for anything with much curb appeal, nor anything that does much to enliven the neighbourhood. And this at one of the most important intersections in the city. Disappointing.

Keith P. · #**351** Posted **Feb 28, 2020, 12:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by TheNovaScotian

This ought to help fix the housing crisis in Halifax...

It could help. Seniors going into it would in many cases be vacating residences and apartments they have inhabited for decades. For single-family homes, their resale could lead to buyers who would be vacating apartments, or to redevelopment of those properties into multi-unit buildings, while the apartment vacancies go towards satisfying that demand.

Jstaleness · #**352** Posted **Feb 28, 2020, 1:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Drybrain

Seniors' housing is needed, but given Shannex's track record I don't hold out much hope for anything with much curb appeal, nor anything that does much to enliven the neighbourhood. And this at one of the most important intersections in the city. Disappointing.

They're building this in the Toronto area so it is possible we could get a good design. Fingers crossed.

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stevencourchene · #**353** Posted **Feb 28, 2020, 1:17 PM**

this is a huge disappointment what a waste!!! i know we need more seniors housing but doesn't have to be in a location such as this.

Colin May · #**354** Posted **Feb 28, 2020, 3:19 PM**

The sale has not yet been registered. The building is assessed at just $2,357,000.

OldDartmouthMark · #**355** Posted **Feb 28, 2020, 4:59 PM**

A little bit of a disappointment, but I'll wait to see the renderings before I decide what I really think about it.

I suspect these will be higher end accommodations for retirees who are no longer able to manage their own households or need help from a PCW. Shannex and their competitors charge quite a lot for these type of accommodations and care, with monthly rents often in the $3000 - $5000 range, payable by the resident. A couple of elderly relatives of mine have been in such facilities in the past, and basically both used most of their life savings (including money from the sale of their houses) to live semi-independently, before nursing home placement.

Hopefully this means that Shannex is intending to put some money into the building to make it attractive, as the payoff is probably good for them on the other side. As privately owned and run facilities, they are in competition with other such facilities (like the Berkeley, for example), so there it is of benefit to them to make them as attractive as possible.

I guess we'll see as it unfolds.

Keith P. · #**356** Posted **Feb 28, 2020, 5:18 PM**

It does seem more than a bit ironic that the oldsters who tend to show up at public hearings to complain "it's TOO TALL!!!" in response to a proposal like the one for this site could end up living in one of those dizzying towers.

OldDartmouthMark · #**357** Posted **Feb 28, 2020, 5:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keith P.

It does seem more than a bit ironic that the oldsters who tend to show up at public hearings to complain "it's TOO TALL!!!" in response to a proposal like the one for this site could end up living in one of those dizzying towers.

LOL... maybe it will help sway the attitudes of such 'oldsters'... though they probably still don't want their property values to drop so they will be able to have sufficient monies to use up from the sale price of their homes to live in such 'dizzying towers'...

worldlyhaligonian · #**358** Posted **Feb 28, 2020, 7:18 PM**

It says they're building to 25 stories... As the DA is approved, why would they build anything shorter. It would be less economical for them to do so.

terrynorthend · #**359** Posted **Feb 29, 2020, 12:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by worldlyhaligonian

It says they're building to 25 stories... As the DA is approved, why would they build anything shorter. It would be less economical for them to do so.

I wouldn't count on 25 stories just yet. Armco is quoted as saying Shannex would "adhere" to the DA, which included the 1.8 million to HRM, and a 25 story height, but IIRC, that is the max allowance, not a strict requirement, eg. "this must be 25 stories".

I agree that a developer gets the most value building a full 25 stories, but it just may not suit their purposes. They built that barn shaped one at College and Tower, and the design for their Toronto building pictured a little bit back in this thread is remarkably similar.

I am currently lowering my expectations, but hoping to be surprised.

FuzzyWuz · #**360** Posted **Mar 1, 2020, 6:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by Keith P.

It could help. Seniors going into it would in many cases be vacating residences and apartments they have inhabited for decades. For single-family homes, their resale could lead to buyers who would be vacating apartments, or to redevelopment of those properties into multi-unit buildings, while the apartment vacancies go towards satisfying that demand.

But they would still be doing that wherever this was built.