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There is a sign on the Airport Inn saying it is becoming a Howard Johnson"
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This is way we need two or probably three more Sheraton size hotels in Hamilton.....

Can’t They Use Tents? It’s starting to sound like a broken record. Skate Canada will bid for, and get, the 2012 world figure skating championships. And it’ll stage them in Eastern Canada, trying to counter-balance the heavy Western bent of recent years.

But Hamilton is not being considered. Although Copps Coliseum was the best skating venue in the country during the 1990s, the lack of suitable hotel space in the city means Hamilton won’t even get a sniff. Same thing happened for 1996 when the Worlds went to Edmonton, when the association would rather have come here.

London, Ottawa and Halifax, and perhaps Kitchener, have the inside track for 2012.

http://www.thespec.com/News/BreakingNews/article/541932
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I really hope anyone with any control over something loke this is reading it.
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This is way we need two or probably three more Sheraton size hotels in Hamilton.....

Can’t They Use Tents? It’s starting to sound like a broken record. Skate Canada will bid for, and get, the 2012 world figure skating championships. And it’ll stage them in Eastern Canada, trying to counter-balance the heavy Western bent of recent years.

But Hamilton is not being considered. Although Copps Coliseum was the best skating venue in the country during the 1990s, the lack of suitable hotel space in the city means Hamilton won’t even get a sniff. Same thing happened for 1996 when the Worlds went to Edmonton, when the association would rather have come here.

London, Ottawa and Halifax, and perhaps Kitchener, have the inside track for 2012.

http://www.thespec.com/News/BreakingNews/article/541932
It doesn't help when current hotels, that we loaned money to have developed as hotels, get converted to retirement residences.
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Which will be replaced with a new hotel.
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Which will be replaced with a new hotel.
Will the Staybridge close before the new hotel opens?
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That's the plan. They have to repay back all the loan money first before turing the place into a retirement home. During that transition they intend to build a replacement at the old HMP used car lot.
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Which will be replaced with a new hotel.
Yeah, so net new rooms = zero if the conversion happens when the new hotel opens.

But by my timeline figuring, Staybridges will be converted to retirement residences prior to HMP site development. Therefore, an immediate term net loss of downtown hotel rooms.
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That's the plan. They have to repay back all the loan money first before turing the place into a retirement home. During that transition they intend to build a replacement at the old HMP used car lot.
In June 2008, the plan was retirement residences within 24 months, loan payback in 18 months (only about 8 more months from now).

I'm guessing a negative number of rooms, as it will help boost occupancy at the Sheraton (and others) in a down economy.
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I don't believe they have even started repaying yet. I saw a report recently and it's about the same. If anything I think they are delaying the transition into a retirement home. You can even book a room a year from now (April 2010) at Staybridge as well.
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I checked........

Staybridge Suites Hotel, 118 Market St. 109 units
Loan - $2,080,000
Year end Balance Owing (2008) $1,437,500
% of Loan Repaid - 31%
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Room service? Find me another hotel

April 22, 2009
Andrew Dreschel
The Hamilton Spectator
http://www.thespec.com/Opinions/article/552575

Even in the face of the groaning economy, there's no shortage of proposals for building new hotels in the downtown.

Today, city staff is scheduled to review the site plan for a 160-room Element by Westin on Main East at Walnut, where the Modern India Buffet was originally located.

The 200-room Hilton Suites planned by hotelier Darko Vranich at Main and Bay streets has already received site plan and building elevation approval, subject to some minor revisions.

And developer Harry Stinson swears he'll have a sales trailer on site in a few weeks and shovels in the ground by summer for the Hamilton Grand, his 177-suite hotel-condo project, recently relocated to the southeast corner of John and Main streets.

The missing piece in all this hustle is, of course, the grand old lady -- the Royal Connaught.

The 13-storey Connaught, which closed in 2004 and was bought by a consortium of local businessmen the following year, remains firmly in limbo.

Plans to either renovate or sell the 1916 landmark that all but occupies a full block between King, Main, Catharine and John streets, have come to naught.

Tony Battaglia, who represents the ownership group, says the economic downturn has made it even harder to get financing.

"We've been to the well and found it somewhat dry," says Battaglia.

"So we're just at a standstill right now, hoping that the economy will turn a little sooner and maybe lenders will ease up a little bit and hopefully get the project back on the go."

The building is not listed for sale but Battaglia says a couple of expressions of interest didn't amount to anything concrete.

Stinson, whose own offer to buy the Connaught for $9.5 million fell through last fall, insists he's still interested in a joint venture with the owners, but admits he doesn't have the wherewithal to buy it outright.

"All I can add is intellectual value and hard work," says Stinson.

Still, setting aside the stagnant Connaught, the promise of all this activity is music to the ears of David Adames, executive director of Tourism Hamilton.

Adames argues that a city with half a million people drastically needs more full-service hotels in the core in order to compete for the lucrative meeting and convention trade.

According to Adames, there are currently about 1,000 hotel rooms across the city, including more than 600 in the core.

He'd like to see that inventory rise to 2,000 to 3,000 rooms in total, including 1,500 to 2,000 in the heart of the city.

Adames says the lack of capacity is not only forcing the city to go after smaller meetings and conventions, it's also having an impact on the number of conferences we're attracting.

Last year, the city hosted 43 meetings and conventions. That was down from 69 in 2007 and 74 in 2006.

Other factors such as increased competition, overall fewer conventions and natural locale rotations may have contributed to the fall off.

But Adames maintains the city needs to bump up its capacity to really make its mark.

"For some associations, for their conventions, we're just not on their radar screens because they know we don't have enough accommodations for them."

To help rectify that, city council has made a policy decision to offer incentives on development charges for building hotels and, according to Adames, staff is in the process of putting together a plan to actively seek hotel investors.

So, far from being saturated with hotel projects, Hamilton needs more of them.

More crucially, it also needs to see those that are now being talked up go from site-planning approvals to ribbon-cutting completion.
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so when is darko building the Hilton? HMP was torn-down two years ago.???
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You don't go ahead and pay for approval for the site plan and building elevation unless you intend to build.
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This is great news! Any work in the core is good, but 3-4 hotel projects is astounding. Hopefully the McMaster/Board building goes through; between that and the Hilton it would be a big boost for Bay Street.
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Kichi gets to reclaim Crowne Plaza tag

January 07, 2010
Naomi Powell
The Hamilton Spectator
http://www.thespec.com/News/Business/article/698390

Oscar Kichi has reclaimed the Crowne Plaza brand name for his downtown hotel after completing $1 million in upgrades.

The local businessman lost the right to use the brand last year when he missed a deadline to improve the hotel's conference centre, guest rooms and furniture.

Though he initially struggled to secure funds amid tight credit markets, Kichi says he landed a loan to pay for the changes late last year. "With (Crowne Plaza) coming back it gives us access to their worldwide reservation system," Kichi said yesterday. "It connects us to all the travel agencies and the sales and support that is part of the franchise."

The InterContinental Hotels Group -- owner of the Crowne Plaza, Holiday Inn, Staybridge Suites and other brands -- has 4,400 hotels in nearly 100 countries.

Emily Brinkley, a spokesperson for the franchise, said the King Street East hotel rejoined the franchise on Jan. 4 after "completing all the requirements we needed."

Though she would not comment on specific improvements, Kichi says they included new audio and visual equipment for the hotel conference centre, new handrails and flat-screen televisions for guest rooms. The hotel had been given six months to make the upgrades after it opened under the Crowne Plaza Banner in May 2008.

Kichi has also forged an agreement with U.S.-based Concord Hospitality to take over management of the Crowne Plaza. Concord already has an ownership stake in another Kichi property, the Marriott Courtyard hotel on Upper James Street.

"I'm hoping now my hands will be free for other things," he said. "Business in 2010 looks much better than 2009."

Provided occupancy rates stabilize at the Crowne Plaza, Kichi says he'll consider adding another hotel on Upper James by year's end.

While the upgrades were completed, the hotel operated under its former name, the Plaza Hotel. Before that, it was a Ramada hotel.
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Marriott Residence Inn (currently Airport Inn) – Upper James/Linc
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New hotel adds to east Mountain boom


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The east Mountain will soon have another landmark building as Carmen's begins construction this spring on its new "boutique" hotel.

Peter Mercanti, owner of Carmen's Banquet Centre, said construction of the 55-room, eight-storey hotel will begin in late April or early May, and be open for business about a year later.

The new hotel is the latest in a string of construction activity on the east Mountain, said Neil Everson, the city's director of economic development.

The hotel, located on Anchor Road next to Carmen's, will be a separate building designed by the Toronto architect who designed the banquet centre. Mercanti would not disclose the cost of construction.

Everson said just down the road, Splitsville (formerly Hamilton Mountain Bowl) has undergone major renovations and further east, the Heritage Greene complex is nearly full with Silver City, Chapters, Best Buy and a host of other retailers.

Everson hinted there's more to come, particularly once the Dartnall Road extension to the new Glanbrook Industrial Park is completed.

"I can't say right now, it's too premature, but I can say there is a lot of activity," he said, referring to interest from developers.

Construction for the Dartnall Road extension is expected to start in the fall. The Trinity Road extension -- also to the Glanbrook Industrial Park -- is to be completed in three to five years.

Everson said both roads will help move people in and around the area smoothly, encouraging traffic to the emerging commercial district.

The new Carmen's hotel will aim to offer an "experience" with an indoor swimming pool, luxurious foyer and top-notch customer service, Mercanti said.

Mercanti credited the opening of the Red Hill Valley Parkway for increased business.

"We have 15 weddings booked where both sides of the family are from Toronto. They're coming here to Hamilton for (Carmen's)," he said. "A lot of our business is from Mississauga, Milton. There is also a big corporate demand from the east Mountain."

In addition, the nearby Mohawk Park, with its hockey and field sports, often needs hotel rooms for tournaments and other visitors.

Mercanti said Hamilton's shortage of hotel rooms creates perfect market conditions.

Hamilton has about 900 hotel rooms when other cities like London, Ont., have about 3,000.

Local officials have often bemoaned how the lack of inventory of quality hotel rooms was hurting Hamilton in its efforts to woo big-name conventions to come here.

Everson said Carmen's new hotel is the latest in a string of good news stories for Hamilton. He said despite the recession, industrial building permits were up 113 per cent in 2009, and commercial permits were up 37 per cent.

"That's pretty significant."

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Does anyone know what's going on with this?
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