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Old Posted Dec 20, 2012, 8:53 PM
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[Halifax] Bloomfield Place | 26 m | 8 fl | U/C

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Name: Gottingen & Bloomfield
Height: 25m
Floors: 8 floors
Status: Proposed
Location: 2776 Gottingen Street (at Bloomfield Street)
Approval Date: N/A
Developer(s): Beaufort Investments Inc.
Architect(s): Paul Skerry Inc.
Uses: Residential + Ground Floor Commercial
HRM Case #: 18254
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2013.01.23 - Public Information Meeting
2013
2013.09.23 - Development Agreement Final Approval




The long awaited redevelopment of the North-End Diner is now in the approval process.

Public Information Meeting - Case 18254
Wed, 23 January 2013, 19:00 – 21:00
5389 Russell Street, Halifax, NS (St. Joseph's Alexander McKay Elementary (Gymnasium)
Case 18254 - Application by Cantwell & Company Ltd., for the lands of Beaufort Investments Inc., to consider amending the Land Use By-law for Halifax Peninsula to include 2777-2778 Gottingen Street within Schedule Q, and allow an 8 storey mixed use building by development agreement

The case details page is not online yet but they are normally made available 1-2 weeks before the PIM.
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2012, 2:05 AM
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I remember the North End Diner. I was in there for lunch only about an hour before it burned down. I went back to work in the dockyard and everyone could smell the smoke all through our building not long after. I miss it but this replacement is obviously for the better.
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Some before photos (both taken by me);



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Some before photos (both taken by me);



This is a great design for this part of the North End. It's a safe design and will have a solid look unlike the building behind it. It's good to see no vinyl but we have to wait for the finished product to see how closely the building matches the proposal.

An extra bonus will be blocking the new building behind it.
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Case Details 18254

Pretty standard North-End proposal. Can't say for sure without a colour rendering but I see no reason for the project not to go through.
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Looks nice. The design is simple and it's a decent mid-sized building with a storefront on Gottingen. I think the North End would work a lot better as a neighbourhood with maybe 50 more residential buildings of approximately this scale. There would be enough density to support a good mix of amenities within walking distance of most of that end of town.
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^Two storefronts actually. The Letter of Intent states one will become a more upscale pub/sit-down restaurant version of the North-End Diner. The other will be a smaller undefined space.

One thing I really like about the proposal is it has no direct parking access to Gottingen Street. If any road on the Peninsula should become a transit corridor its Gottingen Street and removing the parking accesses will make a dedicated transit R-O-W possible by removing turning movements and street crossings.
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Would love to see a proper rendering, but it looks like it might be decent. And the proposal a couple blocks down at Bilby looks really promising. Taken together these could really change the feel of the area--really hope they both go through.
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Isn't this where the North End Pub was before? There was an article in the herald that they want to go right back in on the site...so it seems to me (if I have the sites correct) the commercial ground floor has a tenant already!
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Isn't this where the North End Pub was before? There was an article in the herald that they want to go right back in on the site...so it seems to me (if I have the sites correct) the commercial ground floor has a tenant already!
Indeed - the plan of the first floor shows the two commercial spaces (one noted as "pub") separated by a space noted as "kitchen." Seems pretty specific for a layout that would otherwise be purely speculative.
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Its great to see the North End Pub making its return. This will hopefully bring back a commercial tenant to the building beside it on the corner of Gottingen & Almon. The Needs Convenience shut it's doors a couple months ago.
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I'd like to see less surface parking and more building, but I understand the rationale is to provide the pub/restaurant/commercial space with it's own defined parking area (versus residents who will have underground). But still, not a huge supporter of surface parking lots in established areas like this.

That said, I'm willing to deal with it and agree, no major reason to torpedo this.
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They've added some perspective renderings to the project's details page. Theres no color but they look good so far;

http://www.halifax.ca/planning/docum...rspectives.pdf
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Not bad at all. I'm a huge fan of using rounded balconies on corners - I think they are fantastic!
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Not bad at all. I'm a huge fan of using rounded balconies on corners - I think they are fantastic!
Ha, I was just gonna say I really dislike rounded balconies.

Overall, I'm on the meh side. Not ugly, but not too exciting either, and not very contemporary. But full colour renderings will probably give a better sense. The podium is way better than the rest, which is good—there seems to be a lot more attention paid to the street level of projects lately.

I'm waiting for someone to propose something really excellent and modern for the 'hood, like this. (Or even just the brick podium of that.)
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I'm waiting for someone to propose something really excellent and modern for the 'hood, like this. (Or even just the brick podium of that.)
If contemporary means modern then most modern buildings aren't obtrusive. I am not sure why a building that is so obtrusive as the one that you posted the link to should be considered to be contemporary.

I think the Bloomfield building is contemporary; it is a modern design but not obtrusively so. I especially like the perspective below (source: http://www.halifax.ca/planning/docum...rspectives.pdf )


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If contemporary means modern then most modern buildings aren't obtrusive. I am not sure why a building that is so obtrusive as the one that you posted the link to should be considered to be contemporary.

I think the Bloomfield building is contemporary; it is a modern design but not obtrusively so.
Yeah, you could definitely argue that the top of it is. The bottom podium level is really solid though. I love that kind of simple, stark, but warm contemporary design. (The Vic has it, largely thanks to the brick at street level.)

I really like this, for example, in Toronto, but only the first five floors. The tower is bland, but the bottom, simple though it is, is really well proportioned and, most importantly, not cheap-looking.

As far as what Someone123 said about getting 50 of these things in the North End, I haven't compiled a list, but tallying up all the proposals, there's got to be five or six now, and a bunch of smaller townhouse projects. Another one seems to come along every few months. (Of course, none of the larger ones have yet been built, so...).
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I really like this, for example, in Toronto, but only the first five floors. The tower is bland, but the bottom, simple though it is, is really well proportioned and, most importantly, not cheap-looking.
Yes, I agree that is contemporary and appealing, in my opinion.


PS: I just noticed the building across the street from your posted link - 25 The Esplanade - http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=toronto...,0,-12.05&z=20 . That is the sort of design that I would like to see in Halifax. I like the arches and triangular shape. Here is a Wikipedia link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25_The_Esplanade . Even though I live close to Toronto, I tend to take the architecture for granted. Buildings just seem to pop up overnight with hardly anyone even noticing (or at least that is my impression).

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Looks promising. It seems to borrow major elements from the Vic design, although those oddly-shaped balconies remind me a bit more of the Lexington or that new-ish mid-rise on Morris.
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I was going to say it reminds me of a cross between the Lexington and St. James Place on South St. Sort of meh...
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