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Apologies if this house has been discussed before, but I found the card on Ebay earlier, and would like to know more about it. It's titled "Vintage Los Angeles House Real Photo Card", but what caught my eye was the unusual wrap-around details on the roof. The seller dates it as 1930-1940, and the photo credit on the back is "Graham Photo Co., 110 So Broadway, Los Angeles, Cal., U.S.A.", but no location is given. The number by the door looks like 86, which may narrow down the possible locations.


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The City Directories give various addresses for the Graham Photo Co.:

1923 - 110½ South Broadway
1926 - 121½ South Broadway
1929 - 321 W 3rd Street
1932 - 2937 Whittier Blvd.

So it's probably fair to assume that the photo above may be earlier than the description suggests.
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Nice series on the United Artists Theatre!
Maybe because Veteran's Day is Monday, but I noticed the lonely (?) sailor in this photograph. Lonely or ponderous or bored or contemplative or hungry or lost or awol or another 93 words...

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Apologies if this house has been discussed before, but I found the card on Ebay earlier, and would like to know more about it. It's titled "Vintage Los Angeles House Real Photo Card", but what caught my eye was the unusual wrap-around details on the roof. The seller dates it as 1930-1940, and the photo credit on the back is "Graham Photo Co., 110 So Broadway, Los Angeles, Cal., U.S.A.", but no location is given. The number by the door looks like 86, which may narrow down the possible locations.


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There must be others in the county, but the only 2-digit addresses I can think of within the city limits are in Venice, close to the beach. Some private streets, such as Berkeley Square, had their own 2-digit systems. This house doesn't appear to be in Venice, and I know it's not Berkeley Square. Could it be Hollywood before the annexations 1909-1915, which resulted in many address realignments and street-name changes? Could be in any number of towns in SoCal. Santa Monica? Pasadena? sopas, are you there to give us a little insight into address numbering in your vicinity?

I ran across the following link, which at first glance appeared to be the definitive story on L.A. address history, and maybe it is, but then it went off into quadrants and azimuths, nipple streets and parent streets... so I really only scanned it--but you might find something here:

http://libraries.maine.edu/Spatial/g...s/gi94040.html
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I wasn't aware of this 48 year old LAX restaurant until the article in today's Los Angeles Times.
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-p...#axzz2kBkvYLsF



If you're not a subscriber to the Times, go here...The Daily Breeze.
http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-n...plans-to-close

The Proud Bird is located at 11022 Aviation blvd.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2013, 10:21 PM
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What is that contraption on the roof? Part of a refrigeration unit?
(it seems awfully large for such a small store)
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I assume that's what that is, ER, perhaps for the meat. It resembles the outside water tower that was part of the central air conditioning of the house I grew up in--a system installed in the 1940s. But this is a little early for air conditioning....
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LAT June 5, 1904


Looking for something else, I stumbled upon this illustration in the Times describing the new house being built by "T. X. Onam"--the man's initials were actually T. H., for Thomas Henry, and he was an English-born mining engineer. Charles E. Shattuck was the architect. Still standing after 109 years at 1324 S. Westlake Ave.

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Looks like the upper front windows were altered before the final blueprints, or in a later remodeling.

At the time of his death in 1915, Oxnam was living at 2211 Cambridge Street, also still standing. The 5-block Cambridge Street is worth checking out for its collection of intact houses from the 1910s, including a well-known Greene & Greene at 2175 Cambridge.
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S. Central and 67th Street, January 1937

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detail/neighborhood safeway store, model drugs


-that's quite an utilitarian street light. -looks like an afterthought.


detail/I spy lido club, does that say goodyear apts.?


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-nice find GW!

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Damn stucco... only belongs on Mediterranean houses. And I wonder--how good for the structure could slapping stucco on a wooden building actually be?

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detail/I spy lido club, does that say goodyear apts.?
...the Goodyear Apartments were at 6418 S Central and the Goodyear Tire plant was at 6701, which would be behind the camera, across from the Safeway (6702).

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In time for Armistice Day.


1918 - Military Balloons float above San Gabriel (Note Army Balloon School in foreground)



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When the town was officially incorporated in 1903, Baldwin became its first mayor. But the next year would be see the fulfillment of Baldwin’s dream – the building of the Santa Anita Race Track.

Located at the present site of the Arcadia County Park, the grandstand presented a beautiful view of the San Gabriel Mountains behind the running thoroughbreds. But for Baldwin, his dream was not to last. In 1909, California banned horse racing and the race track was forced to close. Baldwin died the same year.

In 1912, the grandstand burned and the property went unused until 1917 when Anita Baldwin sold the land to Los Angeles County, who in turn deeded it to the War Department, which utilized it as an Army balloon school during World War I. http://www.legendsofamerica.com/ca-s...elvalley3.html


The FIRST Santa Anita Race Track, circa 1908.

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'each...cover saved 500 pounds of metal'?? How? Manhole covers are seriously heavy but still, they can be moved by one man with a long-handled hook and some elbow grease. Are they suggesting manhole covers weighed 500 pounds?
It seems plausible to me. If you've ever done free weight training recall the size of the standard 45# iron plate--and a manhole cover is much wider and thicker. Or, if not actually thicker, it still needs a lot of bracing on the underside, to support the vehicles that pass over it. Also, the lone maintenance worker needs only to lever it up on one side and slide it over to expose the hatch. It's far easier to lift something on one end, or to drag it around, than it would be to clean and jerk it over your head.
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A&M are definitely listed there in 1973. Here's a listing from that block from the 1973 City Directory - do any of the other names ring a bell?


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It was the Sherman School. Thanks!
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Mardi Gras Massage. -that sounds like a real stress reducer!
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LAFD-Battalion 7, AMC Matador, circa Feb. 1974.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lafdhs/...57626210762053

GW, I wonder if 496 E. Ave. 28 was stucco when they filmed L.A. Confidential. It looks like they might have painted it to resemble wood.
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There must be others in the county, but the only 2-digit addresses I can think of within the city limits are in Venice, close to the beach. Some private streets, such as Berkeley Square, had their own 2-digit systems. This house doesn't appear to be in Venice, and I know it's not Berkeley Square. Could it be Hollywood before the annexations 1909-1915, which resulted in many address realignments and street-name changes? Could be in any number of towns in SoCal. Santa Monica? Pasadena? sopas, are you there to give us a little insight into address numbering in your vicinity?

I ran across the following link, which at first glance appeared to be the definitive story on L.A. address history, and maybe it is, but then it went off into quadrants and azimuths, nipple streets and parent streets... so I really only scanned it--but you might find something here:

http://libraries.maine.edu/Spatial/g...s/gi94040.html
sopas might be the better one to answer this,but i use to live on the boarder of south pas/alhambra/el sereno over on maycrest and huntington(way up at the end of maycrest).but on the alhambra side of huntington(right at main street),it seems that if you are going towards south pasadena on main in alhambra they go into two digit addresses (to make it simple start at the walgreens on main and fremont..head towards huntington)hope this might help.
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Noirish LA Sleuths - I am requesting your help.

What is the history of this building, located on the NE corner of S Centinela and Palms in WLA?
It's been vacant for years, and used to house Mrs Gooch's health food store a few decades ago.
Was it originally a supermarket?
Please advise.


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There must be others in the county, but the only 2-digit addresses I can think of within the city limits are in Venice, close to the beach. Some private streets, such as Berkeley Square, had their own 2-digit systems. This house doesn't appear to be in Venice, and I know it's not Berkeley Square. Could it be Hollywood before the annexations 1909-1915, which resulted in many address realignments and street-name changes? Could be in any number of towns in SoCal. Santa Monica? Pasadena? sopas, are you there to give us a little insight into address numbering in your vicinity?

I ran across the following link, which at first glance appeared to be the definitive story on L.A. address history, and maybe it is, but then it went off into quadrants and azimuths, nipple streets and parent streets... so I really only scanned it--but you might find something here:

http://libraries.maine.edu/Spatial/g...s/gi94040.html
haha, yeah there are two digit addresses in the county...over 40 years ago I lived at 90 Monterey Rd. in South Pasadena, while working at 56 Del Mar in Pasadena. And now I work at One Innovation Way in Pomona. But try as I might I can't think of anyplace in LA with a 2 digit number.
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Damn stucco... only belongs on Mediterranean houses. And I wonder--how good for the structure could slapping stucco on a wooden building actually be?





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Is it "real stucco" or is it EIFS, aka Synthetic Stucco? From the appearance of the exterior window trim it looks like it may be a very poorly done EIFS installation which actually would have a layer of foam sheathing over the original siding before applying the EIFS. If it is EIFS the installer failed miserably in installing proper flashing where the porch roof meets the walls. Bad news is over wood EIFS can trap moisture and will often result in more damage to wood siding than leaving it unpainted and exposed to the elements. Not really a good idea and the texture does not really look all that much like real stucco. I hate stucco, has no place in any climate aside from parts of the desert Southwest.

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S. Central and 67th Street, January 1937

ebay

detail/neighborhood safeway store, model drugs


-that's quite an utilitarian street light. -looks like an afterthought.


detail/I spy lido club, does that say goodyear apts.?


stamp on back

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ER: That light appears that it might be one of the old old old electric-arc street lamps. They're a major headache because they require substantial costly maintenance. They would have been phased out when regular street light poles had been installed. I don't see any in this photo.

http://www.shorpy.com/files/arc_lamp.jpg

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Noirish LA Sleuths - I am requesting your help.

What is the history of this building, located on the NE corner of S Centinela and Palms in WLA?
It's been vacant for years, and used to house Mrs Gooch's health food store a few decades ago.
Was it originally a supermarket?
Please advise.


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According to the county assessor's website, the build date is 1946, but I know this information is not always historically correct. Usually both build date and effective build date are given; for this building they are both 1946, but that is not always the case.

Also, the assessor's website doesn't tell you about what might have been there before the present structure came into being. (Or, well, if it does, I don't know how to get to it.)
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