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Old Posted Dec 7, 2006, 12:52 PM
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Worker falls to death at Trump Tower site

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A construction worker fell to his death on Tuesday while working on the Trump Tower construction site on the 2000 block of Fashion Show Drive.

Nevada Occupational Safety and Health Administration officials did not comment on the accident but confirmed they were investigating the incident.
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Las Vegas Review-Journal

Worker falls to death at Trump Tower site

REVIEW-JOURNAL
A construction worker fell to his death on Tuesday while working on the Trump Tower construction site on the 2000 block of Fashion Show Drive.

Nevada Occupational Safety and Health Administration officials did not comment on the accident but confirmed they were investigating the incident.
I was about to start work at Perini.. what does this potentially mean for the company? Maybe I should go with my McCarthy offer in Socal.
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I was about to start work at Perini.. what does this potentially mean for the company? Maybe I should go with my McCarthy offer in Socal.
To be honest and blunt, it probably won't mean much for Perini, at all. You have to have multiple incidents like this happening before the media starts to get involved.
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Interesting news about the monorail from the excellant site, www.vegastat.com, but I think that he (Jazfinger) might have it slightly wrong.

"News 12/07/06 Clark County Approves First Leg of Monorail Expansion

The county approved MGM/Mirage's proposal for a 3.5 mile extension of the existing monorail system. MGM is funding the project with hopes that it will boost ridership of the existing system. Linking the monorail with the airport will give travelers door to door service to many resorts without the expense and hassle of cabs and rental cars."

The extension has been approved, but from what I have read I don't think that MGM is funding the project at all. It just happens to connect to the MGM. It is suppose to be funded by the near bankrupt "Las Vegas Monorail Company". I have read estimates that they will burn through their cash reserve at sometime between 2008 and 2010 at the present rate of their daily losses.

I think the extended monorail system would work well, but unfortunately it probably wont be built until the LVMC defaults on its debt, and it is sold to someone (perhaps the county and city) at a bargain price. They would then have to build the extension to finally make it profitable.

It seems that Harrahs would have even more to gain than MGM/Mirage by the airport extension. They presently have 3 stops, while MGM has just one. Perhaps these deep pockets (including Colony Capital with the Hilton stop) could buy the monorail, and run it collectively, but it is somewhat hard to see these companies cooperating successfully on such a grand scale. If they did buy it, they would probably want to skip the whole Harmon corridor detour to the route going to McCarran.

Just some thoughts. What do you guys think?

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Old Posted Dec 8, 2006, 3:09 AM
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^^^^welcome hulahoop

I got the info from from Clark County planning commission.

The applicant is:
UC-1372-06 - MGM GRAND HOTEL, LLC, ET AL:

Here's a link to the agenda page
http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapp...a/P0197459.htm

Maybe I missed something but I also read somewhere that MGM is going to fund it.
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^^^^welcome hulahoop

I got the info from from Clark County planning commission.

The applicant is:
UC-1372-06 - MGM GRAND HOTEL, LLC, ET AL:

Here's a link to the agenda page
http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapp...a/P0197459.htm

Maybe I missed something but I also read somewhere that MGM is going to fund it.
I think the "UC-1372-06 - MGM GRAND HOTEL, LLC, ET AL" at top of the agenda page might be misleading. The MGM Grand Hotel is not really an independent company (such as MGM/Mirage). It sounds more like a description of the route than the applicant.

At the very bottom it states:
"APPLICANT: Las Vegas Monorail Company
CONTACT: Curtis L. Myles, III, 3720 Howard Hughes Parkway, Las Vegas, NV 89109"

On the other hand, if MGM/Mirage was planning to fund this, it would be huge! It would mean that it would actually be built!! Five hundred million (the estimated cost) is not pocket change, but would be feasible for them.

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with these new HIGHER towers being proposed, it is goin to put the stratosphere out of business. no longer would people want to go there when a block south there is a TALLER tower to go up in....i doubt there wouldnt be something at the top to get people in that milan tower.....im sure even when the eiffel tower was proposed (the paris hotel) the strat had many complants coming from it.....there are now 2 observation decks on the strip and im sure paris takes alot of business away from the strat since it has nicer views....
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Vegasrain84 - youve been BUSY!

how/where did you find the rendering of evolution loft tower 2? and the new design for 601 fremont?

also, that milan tower would look nice.......

said to see the stanhi get knocked down (as fard as the number of floors it has lol) BUT we actuallly dont know for sure what the final design looks like....
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The Milam tower elevation is nice and sleek, but the 3-D rendering is outright beautiful. It has such a nice organic flow. A much better case of great architecture.
I had serious doubts before, especially since the county planning has so far said no way to the height, but the renderings are very persuasive and the FAA might just be generous.
LET IT BE!!!
Seeing the (rough) height comparisons Milam doesn't look at all out of place. With the wide base (and again) the organic flow to the top ( not a pinnacle)
the building would be a fine addition. And they don't show the Fontainbleau with it's height of 750 feet, right next door.
Oh yeah, no ones mentioned the article quote about Allure tower 2 going to be "substantially taller".
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I think the "UC-1372-06 - MGM GRAND HOTEL, LLC, ET AL" at top of the agenda page might be misleading. The MGM Grand Hotel is not really an independent company (such as MGM/Mirage). It sounds more like a description of the route than the applicant.

At the very bottom it states:
"APPLICANT: Las Vegas Monorail Company
CONTACT: Curtis L. Myles, III, 3720 Howard Hughes Parkway, Las Vegas, NV 89109"

On the other hand, if MGM/Mirage was planning to fund this, it would be huge! It would mean that it would actually be built!! Five hundred million (the estimated cost) is not pocket change, but would be feasible for them.

I've changed the article for now, until more is known
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Vegasrain84 - youve been BUSY!

how/where did you find the rendering of evolution loft tower 2? and the new design for 601 fremont?

also, that milan tower would look nice.......

said to see the stanhi get knocked down (as fard as the number of floors it has lol) BUT we actuallly dont know for sure what the final design looks like....

I have Milam waiting in the wings, its finished, I just need to get the building approved, then I will upload it..

I got the renderings of Evolution loft 2 and 601 Fremont St. from the front page of this forum, I don't know where Patrick Griffin got the original, I just based my drawings off of what I had to work with.

I wish Stanhi would have stuck with the 65 stories, but I have read article after article which says that it will only be 45 stories, and 500 feet, so I am almost 100% certain that they reduced floors for whatever reason. I personally think that this is very smart on Cherry's part if it was for financial reasons. I am willing to bet that within a year of construction of Stanhi, Cherry will come out with an even taller building in downtown.. Did you know that Sam Cherry is only 28 years old, and dropped out of High School.. He is one rich 28 year old dropout.. lol.
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I think the "UC-1372-06 - MGM GRAND HOTEL, LLC, ET AL" at top of the agenda page might be misleading. The MGM Grand Hotel is not really an independent company (such as MGM/Mirage). It sounds more like a description of the route than the applicant.

At the very bottom it states:
"APPLICANT: Las Vegas Monorail Company
CONTACT: Curtis L. Myles, III, 3720 Howard Hughes Parkway, Las Vegas, NV 89109"

On the other hand, if MGM/Mirage was planning to fund this, it would be huge! It would mean that it would actually be built!! Five hundred million (the estimated cost) is not pocket change, but would be feasible for them.
Sorry, I might have been the one who first suggested it was submitted by MGM when I first posted the agenda a few days ago. The title of the agenda is confusing, and now that I think about it more, it might be titled that way as part of the counties methodology to chronologically link the history of the project to the original line between MGM and Bally's, which actually was funded collaboratively between those two competing resorts.

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http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=5780169&nav=15MV
Monorail given permit to extend to McCarran Airport
Dec 6, 2006 05:29 PM
A critical step in the future of the Las Vegas Monorail was taken Wednesday afternoon. The County Commission granted a land use permit for extending the system to McCarran Airport.

The project would be funded entirely by private investors. The expansion would add a new four-mile stretch of track to the existing system following a route that would take riders past the Thomas and Mack Center and then into the airport terminal area.

The monorail has been plagued with low ridership from the beginning and is counting on this expansion to gain popularity.
Who can these"private investors" possibly be other than the resorts? The general public isn't going to invest after seeing how it's been handled so far.

Edit: Just found a couple RJ and Sun stories too.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../11266701.html
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/st...566627088.html

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What are those cranes for?

Hey Don, I noticed some cranes on the right side of the picture of Molasky, what are those cranes for?? Are they on the 61 acres, or is that the World Market Center site?
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Hey Don, I noticed some cranes on the right side of the picture of Molasky, what are those cranes for?? Are they on the 61 acres, or is that the World Market Center site?

mmmh.. good question !
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That crane is part of the Molasky construction site. World Market Center is off to the left of Don's picture.

Here's another angle showing the crane.

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The sky is no limit to Milam
Air Force, FAA objections won't fell tower project, developer says
BY DAVID MCKEE

Austin-based developer Christopher Milam is thinking big. Texas-sized big, as in erecting the tallest building in the U.S. on the former site of the Wet 'n Wild aquatic park. Virtually the entire 27-acre parcel would be consumed by the casino "podium," as envisioned by Steelman Design Group, from which will arise a 142-story spire. Modeled on Skidmore Owings & Merrill's Burj Dubai skyscraper, this obelisk will top out at 1,888 feet ... a height that is presently sticking in the craws of Nellis Air Force Base and the Federal Aviation Administration.

Despite the opposition arrayed against him, not to mention the inherent challenge of building a $4.8 billion, 5,000-unit, condo-hotel resort, Milam seems serene -- sufficiently so to balance playing with his toddler while discussing a technical challenge that might faze even a character like Howard Roark of The Fountainhead.

Given the amount of construction tied up by Project CityCenter, how long will it be before you can line up a substantial quantity of materials and labor?


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As conceived by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill and Steelman Design Group, the Las Vegas Tower's casino floor, commercial spaces and parking garage would cover almost the entirety of the former Wet 'n Wild site. Above it would rise an 1,888-foot skyscraper. At present, the tallest hotel tower on the Strip is Wynn Las Vegas, at 600 feet. The Venetian's Palazzo tower, when finished, will reach 642 feet.



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That's evolved a lot in the last six months. Projects which were going to get done didn't get done. Availability of labor and materials, while still tight, it's not a constricting issue the way people thought it was going to be. Plus the cost of commodities is falling. We're not, in the last six to nine months, seeing anything like the increases in prices -- steel, cement, glass -- that we were in the past. Which would make a lot of sense, because the heat is out of the property markets now and construction is down considerably.

What's the design concept?

It basically has three legs and it happens to be, from a structural-engineering perspective, the most efficient tall-building form. As long as you maintain a proper aspect ratio with those three legs, you can basically go as tall as you want. Burj Dubai is much taller than this building but this is considerably larger in mass.

Why did you gravitate to that particular design?

We wanted to do a tall building, which meant we had to be north of the Strip, far enough away from McCarran. Everything in Las Vegas has its 'set' and, in the past, that has been a theme: You're in Paris or Venice or Greece. We wanted to do real architecture, what we call a 'high modern,' important architectural statement. In a very basic business sense, I guess you could say that the tallness of the building is our thing. It's our hook, if you will. It's the next step beyond in the evolution of the Strip.

The underlying property is still titled to Archon. When is the sale going to close?

The option, we have until sometime in October of '07 to close. So sometime between now and then, when we are ready to start construction.

If you were to run into adversity as far as the design, would you not go through with the purchase?

No, it's a tremendous asset. There are always issues, no matter what you're doing. If you want to be successful at development, you spend the time, the effort and the money to work through the issues and come up with something that works for everyone.

As far as the height itself, Nellis AFB registers objections to the project as submitted. Also, the FAA says it's notified you of a "presumed hazard." Given those objections, how do you intend to move forward?

Those are two separate issues and we are working with both the FAA and Nellis, and have been for some months. With respect to Nellis, they have a general policy of opposing tall buildings, for obvious reasons, but it's an issue that can be resolved.

As far as the FAA is concerned, any building over 200 feet tall within a five-mile radius of McCarran is determined by regulation to be a hazard to air navigation. So every hotel on the Strip is a Part 77 obstruction, technically. That's why they issued the DNH. Everybody gets issued a DNH. We're in the middle of the process to determine if the building does present a hazard and -- if it does -- how to make it not. We have a consultant in Washington who's working directly with the FAA.

So you're taking it to the top?

No, we're actually working from the bottom up, which is the way you do it. But we haven't yet responded to the obstruction finding because we're doing our homework and then we'll respond formally to the FAA.

So is the 1,888-foot height non-negotiable?

We think that will ultimately be found to not be a hazard and that's where we wanted to be. The reason is that makes it the tallest building in the U.S. The next-tallest building is the Freedom Tower in New York, which was World Trade (Center), which is 1,776 (feet). They're locked into that number for obvious reasons. You don't build a building this tall and make it a little shorter than the one they just built. That's not a good approach to marketing, if you will.
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So is the 1,888-foot height non-negotiable?

We think that will ultimately be found to not be a hazard and that's where we wanted to be. The reason is that makes it the tallest building in the U.S. The next-tallest building is the Freedom Tower in New York, which was World Trade (Center), which is 1,776 (feet). They're locked into that number for obvious reasons. You don't build a building this tall and make it a little shorter than the one they just built. That's not a good approach to marketing, if you will.
Chicago Spire (name might change), designed by Calatrava, is 2,000 feet and already has approval (though they did just change the design last week, with a higher roof, so now need new approvals). So if Milam is serious about being the tallest in the U.S., he better think about going even taller, or putting a spire on top, just in case Chicago builds theirs.
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