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Old Posted Jul 8, 2006, 4:15 PM
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Fantastic Warsaw skyline II

There is too many pictures in the previous thread so I choose the best. I hope the title will now be more justified.


























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I see a few buildings that appear to be clearly pre-WW II but I'm curious: How much of the city survived the war? A lot, not much??
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^Warsaw was pretty much wiped out in the War.

Great skyline shots, no doubt.
but why the new thread? old one isn't even 50 replies long and is still on the first page here in the €forum?
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2006, 7:56 PM
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I see a few buildings that appear to be clearly pre-WW II but I'm curious: How much of the city survived the war? A lot, not much??
You probably mean the buildings on Plac Trzech Krzyzy (Three Cross Square). But the answer is not simple. For example the church (now like a small Pantheon) was completly different before WW2, much bigger and much more beautiful, and was nearly completely destroyed. It was rebuild later during communist era, but the authorities allowed to build very small and modest church according to the existing XVIII century predecessor.

This pattern was applied to almost all historical buildings rebuild after the war.
In place of magnificent buildings, sometimes better and more impressive than that of Paris or London we have now a kind of "historical" small provincial city architecture. The original pre war architecture is very rare but exists and still shows how great city it was before the war.
In the begining of XX century Warsaw was a very wealthy city. It was a great industrial and trade center, a gateway to the markets of Russia and Far East. This can be clearly visible in the buildings from this period. By the way during first world war retracting russian occupation troops dismantled or damaged most of the industrial installations but little damage was done to the city itself.

I would say that 90% of city center had been completely destroyed in WW2. Most not during the actual battle but deliberately later. German troops drilled thousands of holes in walls of most precious monuments, filled with dynamite and blew up. Before this remaining alive population was expelled from the city. All furniture, tableware, paintings, silverware, linen, etc. has been looted in the organized way by german state. Thousands of railway carriages full of objects having any value was transported to Germany. The value of destroyed and stolen Warsaw property is counted in tenths of billions of dollars. This has no precedence in the history.

Below is one of the few buildings that survived the war relatively intact.


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Old Posted Jul 8, 2006, 7:57 PM
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^Warsaw was pretty much wiped out in the War.

Great skyline shots, no doubt.
but why the new thread? old one isn't even 50 replies long and is still on the first page here in the €forum?
For some reason my computer has problems in opening the old thread. I think other may have the same problem.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2006, 5:55 PM
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XIX century photo showing church on Plac Trzech Krzyzy.



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I hope more buildings in Warsaw are restored to their pre-war glory. I believe the Bruhl and Saski palaces are set to be rebuilt. It would be great if some of the palaces around Plac Powstancow Warszawy, Malachowskiego and Dombrowskiego were rebuilt too to recreate the pre-war character somewhat.
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^Warsaw was pretty much wiped out in the War.

Great skyline shots, no doubt.
but why the new thread? old one isn't even 50 replies long and is still on the first page here in the €forum?
I agree. There has been a lot of Warsaw pictures posted already (most of them looking quite similar), so IMHO you should not start another thread each time you post a bunch of new pics. One thread is enough.
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Interesting photo found in the net. You can see quite a few buildings that survived the war. Most of them were in fact build before the first WW and they have 9-10 storeys.

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Warsaw from SSC




These two pictures are really fantastic, some day they may be true because of global warming.



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Old Posted Oct 20, 2006, 4:26 PM
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A few more pictures from Warsaw (imported from SSC)








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Old Posted Oct 20, 2006, 4:40 PM
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Amazing pics!
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I adore the "zloty tarasy" complex very much.

Which building is that with that dome on top?
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I adore the "zloty tarasy" complex very much.

Which building is that with that dome on top?
The tower is around 100 m high, so it's hardly visible from this perspective.
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I am talking about the lowe rise on the right with the flag on top of it, the dome in the foreground
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You should know that by now, De Snor....its the Blue City shopping mall
Originally a Turkish investment called "Reform Centre".
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http://www.bluecity.pl/ Currently it has financial problems. Competition between shopping centers in Warsaw is increasing all the time. After opening of Zlote Tarasy which is planned for spring, all ranks will be upturned.
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This one is a real stunner!
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