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Old Posted: Sep 18, 2006, 9:06 PM
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49ers announce new stadium plans

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First look at 49ers' new stadium plan
Robert Selna, Chronicle Staff Writer

Tuesday, July 18, 2006


The San Francisco 49ers presented a preliminary outline for a privately funded stadium and adjacent development at Candlestick Point on Monday, and said the team would seek the Board of Supervisors' approval for the project once plans are firmed up.

The 68,000-capacity stadium would be built on landfill just southeast of the current Monster Park and would cost between $600 million and $800 million. Team officials said during a Chronicle editorial board meeting that they planned to partner with Lennar Corp., which would build housing, retail and office space around the stadium, but that those elements were in the early stages.

Critics have voiced concern that the development will veer too far from the stadium-mall plan that voters approved with two 1997 ballot measures. Proposition D authorized $100 million in revenue bonds to subsidize the project, and Proposition F allowed rezoning of 77 acres for the stadium and mall.

That plan, hatched by the 49ers and mall developer and operator Mills Corp., never got off the ground. Lisa Lang, a spokeswoman for the 49ers, said Monday that the team no longer needs the public financing but believes that it is still entitled to the land because the new project would qualify under the Prop. F rezoning.

Nonetheless, Lang said the team would seek Board of Supervisors approval.

"We want the city and the neighborhoods to be supportive of the project; without the support of the Board of Supervisors, it's not going to go forward," Lang said.

Supervisor Sophie Maxwell, whose District 10 encompasses Candlestick Point, said she agreed with Lang that any development would require board review.

Unlike Lang, however, Maxwell said she believed the new project would involve zoning alterations.

"You have to remember that this was zoned to be a mall," Maxwell said. "It's going to change from being a mall to having a lot of new housing, and that will require transportation and other infrastructure. There will be a lot of things that will need to come before the board."

Board President Aaron Peskin said the 49ers would have to come up with a detailed proposal before he could form an opinion on what role the city should play.

"We have a rendering of a stadium, but we're waiting for more details," Peskin said. "The problem is that it's not a stadium alone -- it's a stadium tied at the hip to an adjacent development."

Other elected officials have been taking steps in recent weeks in expectation that the 49ers would be coming up with a new stadium plan.

Legislation sponsored by state Sen. Carole Migden, D-San Francisco, would allow the city to seek a judicial ruling on whether the 49ers and the city can proceed with a stadium different from the one that voters approved.

The bill, which Migden proposed at the request of Mayor Gavin Newsom, has passed the state Assembly and awaits a final vote in the state Senate before going to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Critics of the legislation have said Newsom and the 49ers are trying to avoid the expense and uncertainty of returning to the ballot to seek voter approval of the new plan.

Maxwell said she would not object to judicial review as long as the community has a say in whatever the team builds.

The 49ers and their designers at HNTB Architecture Inc. said Monday that they were looking to win the community's support.

"We want the public to embrace the stadium and to have the stadium intertwined with the community as a public place," said HNTB design director Fernando Vazquez.

Vazquez said the project was in the "very beginnings of the design process."

Architect Timothy Cahill said the stadium could be used for soccer, concerts and other entertainment, and could be an Olympic venue should the Bay Area ever land the Summer Games.

The team showed drawings of a possible design and said it hoped to put two-thirds of the seats in the stadium's lowest section and to include a north plaza, with a large open area for viewing downtown San Francisco.

Lang outlined a proposed timeline in which the project would start with community input in September, then move through the Board of Supervisors approval and an environmental review process. She said the team hoped to play its first game in the stadium in 2012.

She said the 49ers believed their best backup plan for a stadium site would be Santa Clara if the San Francisco proposal falls through. She said the team had engaged in very preliminary discussions with officials in Santa Clara, where the team has its headquarters and a practice facility, about placing a stadium there.


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--------------------------------------------------------------------------Proposed new 49er stadium -- Computer-rendered view from inside proposed stadium looking north to San Francisco -- Monster Park would be demolished Proposed location of new stadium -- 68,000 seats are planned, but could be expanded to 72,000. Two-thirds of the seats (46,000) are in the large, lower “bowl,” intended to give most fans a view closer to the field. -- In addition to NFL football, the field could be used for soccer, Olympic Opening and Closing ceremonies, concerts and other entertainment. -- Cost is estimated at between $600 million and $800 million. -- Current plan is to begin construction in January 2010 and finish for the 2012 football season. Sources: San Francisco 49ers; aerial view from Pictometry.com The Chronicle
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Old Posted: Sep 19, 2006, 2:03 AM
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Old News, BUT the stadium looks alright.
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Would this be SF's potential Olympic Stadium? So it's ok with 68,000 seats, but Chicago's Soldier Field is too small with 62,000? what am I missing?
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Old Posted: Sep 19, 2006, 5:45 PM
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I say build it! The stadium will be built on a parking lot and will be privately financed, so how could there be opposition to it?
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Old Posted: Sep 19, 2006, 9:37 PM
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there might be opposition, it is san fransisco
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Not the most stunning design. Actually looks fairly bland. But if its private money being spent they can have what they want.
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Old Posted: Sep 20, 2006, 1:48 AM
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there might be opposition, it is san fransisco
True, but looking at an aerial of the site posted earlier, there isn't anything around Monster Park to the east, just a massive parking lot and undeveloped land. It would be one thing if this stadium was proposed for downtown San Fransisco, but the site in question is PERFECT for a new stadium. Plus, the city deserves a state-of-the-art football facility.
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while i like the fact that the 49ers are gettin a new stadium because they really do deserve it, its too basic theres nothin too it
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Is that going to be a huge wall behind the suites?
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i like it...but as slugbelch said...is that huge wall gunna stay there???
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49ers make stadium part of Olympic bid
Football team and S.F.'s 2016 committee partner to propose a dual-purpose arena


John Crumpacker, Chronicle Staff Writer

Saturday, September 23, 2006

The 49ers and the group attempting to bring the 2016 Summer Olympic Games to San Francisco have formed a partnership that would make it possible to turn the football team's proposed new stadium at Candlestick Point into an Olympic stadium.

A temporary platform 12 feet above the football field and 20,000 additional seats would enable the stadium to hold Opening and Closing Ceremonies, track and field competition, and soccer finals should San Francisco win an international competition to host the Games a decade from now, the group San Francisco 2016 announced Friday.

In a long Olympic bidding process, that's a big if. A number of significant hurdles would have to be cleared before San Francisco could even enter international bidding in 2009. And the city has yet to agree to the 49ers' proposal to built the stadium.

"John York (the 49ers' owner) and the team's architects have come up with a workable and smart solution that clearly strengthens our bid,'' Mayor Gavin Newsom said in a statement. "We are appreciative of both the 49ers' teamwork and the valuable feedback provided by Peter Ueberroth (head of the U.S. Olympic Committee) and his team on our plan.''

Friday's announcement would seem to enhance the city's chances in its competition against Los Angeles and Chicago to be the USOC's candidate if the committee decides to enter a bid for 2016. The committee will decide by the end of this year whether to put forth a bid.

"Our ultimate goal is to help each of these cities build the best possible Olympic plan so we can select from among them the city with the best change of winning internationally,'' said Bob Ctvrtlik, vice president of the USOC.

Each of the three cities completed and handed in the USOC's 60-page Candidate City Questionnaire covering 10 major categories germane to hosting an Olympic Games by Friday's deadline. For San Francisco bid officials, the stadium alterations provide more specific details than they were able to offer the last time the USOC visited the city.

"It's a huge step forward for us,'' said Scott Givens, managing director of San Francisco 2016. "The key thing is to show our commitment and the certainty of our bid. We believe strongly San Francisco will compete well at an international level. This process ... enables us to become an incredibly competitive city.''

Said Lisa Lang, the 49ers' vice president of communications: "We all think it would be very exciting for the 2016 bid committee to win. We were happy to do our part.''

The 49ers plan to unveil their new stadium at Candlestick Point in time for the 2012 NFL season.

However, Newsom spokeswoman Jennifer Petrucione said a partnership by the 49ers and San Francisco 2016 does not mean the Candlestick Point stadium project will definitely move forward.

"We're very pleased that the 49ers and their architects were able to come up with a solution for the stadium for the Olympics,'' she said. "It means the city doesn't need to spend millions of dollars on a temporary stadium. But this does not mean that we have reached consensus on the Candlestick development. It does mean that our 2016 bid is significantly strengthened.''

News that the city had included the proposed stadium in its Olympic bid troubled Supervisor Gerardo Sandoval, who has called for voter approval of both initiatives.

"I've said all along that this was just a backdoor way to get the stadium built without voter approval,'' Sandoval said. "The mayor said he would seek voter consent on the Olympics, and I took him at his word. At this point, that might have been a foolish thing to do. It's further cause for concern. Nobody disagrees with the desire to hold the Olympics here or build a new stadium for the 49ers. The concern is who's going to pay for it.''

Making the facility ready for the Olympics would entail adding about 20,000 temporary seats behind the north end zone -- increasing capacity to 80,500 -- and installing, in sections, a raised platform wide enough for track and field competition as well as Opening and Closing Ceremonies.

The platform and temporary seats would be removed in time for the 49ers' 2016 regular-season games.

"It was a challenging request for the architects,'' Lang said. "The layout of NFL stadiums and track and field are normally incompatible. We didn't want to do anything that would impact the sight lines for our fans by pushing the seats back.''

In the completed questionnaire sent to the USOC on Friday, San Francisco bid officials said their plan includes one centralized Olympic Village at an as-yet-undetermined location in the city and competition venues ranging from Golden Gate Park to the west, Briones Reservoir to the east, the Marin Headlands to the north and San Jose's Spartan Stadium to the south.

Every sport would be held in that geographical range, said San Francisco 2016 spokesman Mark Dolley. No athlete would have to travel more than 54 minutes by bus from the Athletes Village in San Francisco to the farthest competition venue, he said.

"It's a statement of resources and an overall idea,'' Dolley said. "In the next phase, we would be expected to flesh out all the details.''

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I'm all for a new stadium in San Fran, but for that area with spectacular views, they should have designed something more appealing then that slab of concrete.

How about something like the Seahawk stadium
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yeah, its definitely not "olympic class". compare to the "birds nest" olympic stadium u/c in beijing:


if sf is serious about an olympic bid, it need some serious architecture, not some design that looks like it came out of a "stadium basics' textbook.
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looks like shU^% ... i've seen better designs in video games lol
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China also went balls to the wall to pay for the Olympics.
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Don't take this personal anyone but the last time a pile of shit was used for the main stadium has to be Atlanta 1996. Must be an American thing? Seriously Sydney was great. Athens was great. Beijing will be awesome. London ?




Lets just hope San Francisco can do better than this!
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atlanta didnt looks as good beacsue it was designed to be a baseball stadium after the olympics where the other were to be soccer or football stadiums
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Yes SF will be used as a football stadium after the Olympics, but it will have to be renovated to provide room for the track surface for the Olympics. How will this be accomplished? By mentioning Atlanta I am trying to make the point that it will look less than ideal for the Olympics. More than likely the solution will be a band-aid fix which takes away from the stadium.

Look at LA. the stadium was renovated. The track was removed and yet it still is not 100% suitable for football. I assume SF will go the same way as Atlanta. The end use will dictate the design and the Olympics will play second fiddle in this case to football.
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