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Old Posted: Sep 27, 2006, 10:46 AM
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VANCOUVER: Hotel Georgia : 50+ floors 160m+

New Hotel Georgia Tower Proposal

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from raggedy13:


meeting with the City Planning Department held Aug. 31.

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Rough notes from the meeting:

The City commented that there were some interesting, subtle aspects to the tower demonstrated in the material provided to them, but the overall form and expression was "too subtle".

The Hotel Georgia is seen as being one of the first of the "new generation" of towers in Vancouver, and is one of only 3 or 4 taller towers anticipated in the downtown core.

The prominence of this site and the height of the proposed tower demands a strong, dynamic architectural statement. Considerations include;

- A more dramatic tower form and top as seen on the city skyline both day and night
- A more sophisticated tower "skin" and expression, particularly on the south and west exposures where issues of orientation, solar heat gain, views, etc need to be reconciled. Options for solar shading, innovative glazing systems, etc... should be explored.
- Overall sustainable design considerations are important
- The tower's contextual relationship to neighbouring buildings and in particular its role as a backdrop to the existing heritage hotel building.

The City suggested that some leeway in height may be considered if warranted to achieve a more interesting, unique profile to the top of the building.

The City noted that attention should be given to the street level drop off area in order to achieve an exciting arrival experience (dramatic lighting, animation, transparency, etc...)

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The current planned height is no less than 160m but an exact height is unconfirmed.

To add to all this wonderful information, here are some newer renderings of the tower...

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Old Posted: Sep 27, 2006, 2:01 PM
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nice the couv just can't get enough of those point towers. and thats a good thing!
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Old Posted: Sep 27, 2006, 3:45 PM
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Absolutely stunning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! though they should put on in Atlanta being it's name is Hotel Georgia
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Old Posted: Sep 27, 2006, 5:05 PM
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Looks great!
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Absolutely stunning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! though they should put on in Atlanta being it's name is Hotel Georgia
It's because the building is on Georgia Street (although the highrise will be on Howe). The original design was even more amazing:





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Old Posted: Sep 28, 2006, 4:41 PM
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Bring back the original design.
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Old Posted: Sep 28, 2006, 4:51 PM
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Oh no! The original design was much better! I like the current design, but the original would have been an instant classic.
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Old Posted: Sep 28, 2006, 5:42 PM
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Great building, congrats Vancouver.

And how deep is that basement? Is it just me or do they seem to dig deep in Vancouver (ex. Living Shangri-La).
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Old Posted: Sep 28, 2006, 6:11 PM
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I'm not a fan of Bing thom's design. It's too art deco/gothic for me.

I'd prefer the Hotel Georgia to have a modern design like those in upcoming developments in Tianjin or Guangzhou China.
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These architects need to take a look at what's going on in China right now. The architecture is truly insping. They could take those amazing designs and shrink it down to 160m height.


See this thread:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116595


The current Hotel Georgia proposal is absurd. It has no rhyme or reason. Vancouver needs to look beyond it's borders and have international design competitions for towers with world renowned architecture firms, much like they do in Dubai and China.

Local architects with unruly designs are not allowed anymore !
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how come this isn't in the diagrams? it isn't even listed under vancouver.
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Old Posted: Oct 7, 2006, 5:35 AM
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I like how the design people in Vancouver would support more height for more dramatic/iconic design throughout and at the top. Totally not like the design people in Seattle on that point.
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I remember the original models, bring back that design.
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how come this isn't in the diagrams? it isn't even listed under vancouver.
I think that's because it isn't an official proposal yet that has been made public. The developers are just undergoing priliminary discussions with the City. However, there is a much better chance that this tower will go through than with the former tower. Also, we'll know much more about this project before the new year as the developer is set on getting approved before Vancouver alters its bylaws in 2007 regarding earthquake-related design. This project uses some sort of engineering technique (or something like that) that will no longer be allowed under the City's upcoming changes which many feel will be too architecturally restrictive.

I found out that the height in those renderings in the first post was 162m (531ft) but I'm sure they'll take advantage of the City's generous offer to allow for additional height given a more interesting roof is incorporated. Since the roof is pretty flat, I'm sure they could get it up atleast another 10m (33ft) with something more unique. It would be nice to have a tower of no less than 175m.
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Old Posted: Oct 15, 2006, 6:26 AM
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new bylaw regarding earthquake-related design? Are they going to have to stick in massive diagnol columns in the future or what?
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I like both designs!
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Old Posted: Nov 30, 2006, 6:52 AM
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New rendering...

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Old Posted: Nov 30, 2006, 7:38 AM
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Could someone pin point on a map where this, shangri-la, and 1152 west gergia will be on a map? My not living in vancouver makes it harder for me to visualise where therse buildings are going up.
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Old Posted: Nov 30, 2006, 1:38 PM
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Sweet rendering!
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Old Posted: Dec 1, 2006, 8:23 AM
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i added wall center just for reference!

notice the geometry of the building too!

viewing from the south, our dome-shaped skyline is incomplete! btwn shangri-la and hotel georgia is a GAP!! we really need a 700-800ft office tower there to complete the dome.
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