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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 12:46 AM
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Hello Folks! I have decided to put my love of all things stats to use and make a thread for it...It will mainly be focused on NB and in particular Moncton, Fredericton and Saint John.

I am starting off with a few graphs but I will add more on a regular basis, so keep an eye out

I'll try to post my sources as best as possible (just click the link below the graph)...if you have any questions or corrections please let me know...I know the StatsCans website is very hard to navigate.

*Most Graphs are in Thousands* (65.5 = 65,500)

Population

Census Subdivision (City)

Source: StatsCan

Census Metropolitan Area / Census Agglomeration (Metro)

Source: StatsCan

Tourism

Hotel Nights Sold

Source: NB Tourism Dept. (Tourism Indicators Summary Report), NB Tourism Dept. (2012 Tourism Indicators)


Cruise Ship Passengers

Source: NB Tourism Dept. (Tourism Indicators Summary Report)

Airport Passengers

Source: Each Airports Annual Reoprts

Employment

Employment (Metro) (Moncton was only added to this one in 2011) (I used the number from Dec. of each year, except 2012)

Source: StatsCan (Tables : Table 5-1)

Employment (Economic Region) (I used the number from Dec. of each year, except 2012)

Source: StatsCan (Tables : Table 6-1)

Housing

Housing Starts (Economic Region) 2006-2011 (total units, includes apartments, condo units, detached houses etc)


Housing Starts (Economic Region) 2012 (total units, includes apartments, condo units, detached houses etc)


CMA/CA Apartment Vacancy Rate (Buildings of 3 or more units)







Sources: Statscan

Retail

3 "Big Mall" Stats

Source: http://www.cfretail.com/EN/PropertyS...earchMaps.aspx

Construction

CMA Building Permit Values

Source: Statscan
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(ER)-------203,837---(1st)
(CMA)-----138,644---(1st)
(POPCTR)-107,086--(1st)
(CSD)------69,074---(2nd)----------*Be Magically Transported to Downtown Moncton in Autumn*

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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 1:19 AM
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I added ER employment...

Also if anyone has an interesting stat they want me to post a graph for, please let me know!
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(CMA)-----138,644---(1st)
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(CSD)------69,074---(2nd)----------*Be Magically Transported to Downtown Moncton in Autumn*
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First off, fantastic idea for a thread!

Just wanted to point out that a bunch of your graphs aren't showing up.
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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 1:32 AM
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First off, fantastic idea for a thread!

Just wanted to point out that a bunch of your graphs aren't showing up.
Thanks! And that is strange...is it the last ones? Cause Im trying out a different hosting site as Image Shack went all weird lately...

They are working for me so I dunno

Edit: nevermind...I just remembered my password for Photobucket...so Ill put them on there!

Edit: Done...let me know if there are any more issues!
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(ER)-------203,837---(1st)
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(CSD)------69,074---(2nd)----------*Be Magically Transported to Downtown Moncton in Autumn*
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They all seem to be working for me now except for the CMA population graph. This is strange, because it was working before.

I agree with Myles, a good idea for a thread.

Do you have any data for employment income or per capita income per economic region? For some of these sets of stats, it might be interesting to see how we compare to Haligon.
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Nice! Thanks Monctonian!

Just curious...is Property Guys.com considered "MLS" sales? As it seems they are gaining market share around here.
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(ER)-------203,837---(1st)
(CMA)-----138,644---(1st)
(POPCTR)-107,086--(1st)
(CSD)------69,074---(2nd)----------*Be Magically Transported to Downtown Moncton in Autumn*

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Interesting thread. I would love to see this graphic data pertaining to the non-big three, especially the municipalities in northern New Brunswick -- just so we may see the broader context through which the province is going.
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Nice! Thanks Monctonian!

Just curious...is Property Guys.com considered "MLS" sales? As it seems they are gaining market share around here.
I'll try to answer your question without getting too complicated.

PropertyGuys.com® is an advertising and marketing firm which charges fees to access their services. http://propertyguys.com/site/legal

(They also sell franchises - http://propertyguysfranchise.com/)

The ability to place real property on the Moncton MLS System® is available only to people who first are licensed by the New Brunswick Minister of Justice, Consumer Affairs Division and who second become members.
A member may place a property on the Moncton MLS System® even if the property is also being advertised on PropertyGuys.com®. If the property sells while on the Moncton MLS System®, the sale is reported and recorded in the system.

Sometimes a licensee representing a buyer client is involved in the sale of a property that is advertised on PropertyGuys.com®, but is not on the Moncton MLS System®. In this case, even though the licensed member was involved in the sale, the sale would not be recorded in the MLS System®.
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I'll try to answer your question without getting too complicated.

PropertyGuys.com® is an advertising and marketing firm which charges fees to access their services. http://propertyguys.com/site/legal

(They also sell franchises - http://propertyguysfranchise.com/)

The ability to place real property on the Moncton MLS System® is available only to people who first are licensed by the New Brunswick Minister of Justice, Consumer Affairs Division and who second become members.
A member may place a property on the Moncton MLS System® even if the property is also being advertised on PropertyGuys.com®. If the property sells while on the Moncton MLS System®, the sale is reported and recorded in the system.

Sometimes a licensee representing a buyer client is involved in the sale of a property that is advertised on PropertyGuys.com®, but is not on the Moncton MLS System®. In this case, even though the licensed member was involved in the sale, the sale would not be recorded in the MLS System®.
I gotcha...so in other words if PropertyGuys was gaining market share every year than that could possibly change the number on your chart a bit. (aka possibly flat home sales instead of a slight decline since 2010). That said the first few months of the year don't tell the whole story as most homes are sold in the summer if I'm not mistaken.
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(ER)-------203,837---(1st)
(CMA)-----138,644---(1st)
(POPCTR)-107,086--(1st)
(CSD)------69,074---(2nd)----------*Be Magically Transported to Downtown Moncton in Autumn*
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I added airport passenger figures...I was unable to find the 2011 number for YFC...does anyone know it?

Also I put all the graphs on photobucket...so they should all be visible now hopefully!
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(ER)-------203,837---(1st)
(CMA)-----138,644---(1st)
(POPCTR)-107,086--(1st)
(CSD)------69,074---(2nd)----------*Be Magically Transported to Downtown Moncton in Autumn*
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from CBC

New Brunswick ranks 2nd highest for seniors
Census shows aging trend expected to continue
By Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon, CBC News Posted: May 29, 2012 1:39 PM AT

New Brunswick's new population map New Brunswick has Canada’s second highest percentage of people aged 65 and over, with a large number of them concentrated in the northern part of the province, new census data shows.

In 2011, the provincial figure was 16.5 per cent, according to Statistics Canada.

That’s just slightly below Nova Scotia’s leading rate of 16.6 per cent. However, New Brunswick's percentage of people older than 65 is above the national average of 14.8 per cent.

Fredericton and Moncton are both below the national average, at 13.7 and 14.6 respectively.

Saint John is just slightly above at 15.1 per cent.

But all of the northern communities are significantly higher than the national figure: Miramichi (18.4 per cent), Edmundston (18.5 per cent), Campbellton (18.7 per cent), and Bathurst (18.9 per cent).

Campbellton had the oldest population in the province in 2011 with a median age of 49.1.

Edmundston was a close second at 49 and Bathurst ranked third for median age at 48.9.

Atlantic provinces aging quickly
Overall, Canada has a higher proportion of seniors than ever before, partly due to aging baby boomers and the fact that people are living longer lives, the report says.

The population of those over the age of 65 has surged to nearly five million over the past five years, growing 14.1 per cent since the last official count, Statistics Canada says.

By region, however, the Atlantic provinces and Quebec are aging more quickly than the West.

New Brunswick’s figure has jumped about 1.5 per cent since 2006.

The report suggests that’s due in part to younger people leaving the East in search of jobs.

Seniors outnumber children in some communities
And it’s a trend that’s expected to continue with the near-seniors — those aged 60 to 64 — growing faster than any other group.

In just four years, Canada will face what demographers have dubbed "the cross-over," the day when there are more seniors than children.

But many New Brunswick communities are already there, with Bathurst leading the pack.

In 2011, 6,345 people in the northern community were over the age of 65 — 49 per cent more than those under the age of 15.

Similarly, Edmundston has 40 per cent more seniors, followed by Campbellton at 29 per cent and Miramichi at 27 per cent.

Meanwhile, the proportion of New Brunswickers aged 15 to 64 — the working-age population — is on a downward trend, dropping to 68.4 per cent in 2011 from 69 per cent in 2006.

Still, the number of children aged four and under is on the rise right across the country, up about 11 per cent from the last census, making it the highest growth of rate for that age group since the baby boom period.

New Brunswick increase, however, was by just 6.1 per cent, ranking it 10th among provinces and territories.
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New Brunswick's new population map New Brunswick has Canada’s second highest percentage of people aged 65 and over, with a large number of them concentrated in the northern part of the province, new census data shows.
Northern New Brunswick is currently in decline as it is; with the coming E.I. changes, with increasing gas prices affecting the price of all consumer goods and services, I think Moncton should have a renewed sense of focus toward becoming the seniors' capital of the province.

The northern seniors are going to want to be close to services and entertainment. Moncton's obvious edge in entertainment aside, services will absolutely become less available in the north as E.I. disproportionately harms the north and declines their local economies at a much faster rate than the economic decline under previous circumstances.

This is forced urbanisation in a harmful way, through budgetary cuts of which will create unforeseen pressures on cities as they will see their realm of lower-waged jobs become flooded with more-than-skilled job seekers and former seasonal workers (which further disadvantages people without a college or university degree currently in or trying to enter the lower-waged job market) -- and a more greatly burdened health care system due to the high number of seniors.

Moncton's wave of Acadian immigration could grow from tidal bore to tsunami.

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While it is true that some rural seniors will follow their children to the city, this is not universally the case. Many will stay in their home communities. This is what they are familiar with and it is where their friends are. As long as seniors are able to stay active and independent they will stay where they consider their home to be.

I do not predict a northern "tsunami" hitting Moncton, but I do predict continual immigration from the north as well as from elsewhere in the Maritimes and Canada, even overseas.

Only about 30-40% of immigrants to Moncton are from northern NB.

A similar number is from elsewhere in the Maritimes, and although you might find it surprising, about 20% is from the rest of Canada. There are also several hundred foreign immigrants to greater Moncton each year.
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While it is true that some rural seniors will follow their children to the city, this is not universally the case. Many will stay in their home communities. This is what they are familiar with and it is where their friends are. As long as seniors are able to stay active and independent they will stay where they consider their home to be.
In that case, they stay in the north for another 15/20 before passing. Regardless if the seniors move or not, Northern New Brunswick 2030 isn't looking too promising to be honest.
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While it is true that some rural seniors will follow their children to the city, this is not universally the case. Many will stay in their home communities. This is what they are familiar with and it is where their friends are. As long as seniors are able to stay active and independent they will stay where they consider their home to be.
You're assuming they will have the means to stay there. I am claiming that concurrently with the economic decline already occurring, the changes to E.I. will cause tremendous stress on the north's seasonal economy -- and this will translate into other services (on which these seniors vitally depend) being cut simply because the north's tax revenue is going to shrink and shrink FAST.

Absolutely no government is going to subsidise and keep afloat an entire region within a province into a socialised senior's retirement paradise just so these seniors can live by their friends.
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The decline of New Brunswick's north will aggrandise further if this Maine 'East-West' highway proposal, seen as blue in this graphic, breaks ground. The majority of Atlantic Canadians will mostly not have a reason to 'drive-thru' New Brunswick's north, degrading the local economies there even more:


Link:http://www.vftt.org/forums/showthrea...-Maine-Senaate
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Added 2 graphs of housing start data.

Source : Statscan CANSIM tables...Ill post the link later

I want to do Building permit values and one for MLS sales as well...stay tuned
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(CSD)------69,074---(2nd)----------*Be Magically Transported to Downtown Moncton in Autumn*
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That decline in SJ housing starts is pretty staggering. The Real Estate market has been pretty dead as of late as well.
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Added apartment vacancy rates

Take the latest SJ rate with a grain of salt...its very abnormal when looking back at long term trends...and based on the numbers I follow it doesn't add up. There has not been much multiple construction in SJ in the last year (in fact the total # of units in the CMA went down from 8,578 to 8,521). And with apparent flat population growth that leads me to believe the vacancy rate should be stable.

In any event...here is CMHCs explanation of the latest numbers:

In the spring of 2012, the vacancy rate in Fredericton stood at 3.8 per cent, up from three per cent a year earlier. Steady in-migration continued to bolster demand for rental units, resulting in the lowest vacancy rate in the province. The balance between supply and demand, however, has been impacted by higher than average levels of construction activity, particularly during the last three years. Due to rapid development in the local rental market, the number of apartment units under construction last year in Fredericton was at a historically high level, with a monthly average of approximately 200 units maintained throughout the year. As a result, the addition of new units to the local rental market proceeded at a pace slightly ahead of what existing demand has been able to absorb, thereby, contributing to the higher vacancy rate.

In Greater Moncton, a similar trend was observed, as the expansion of the local rental supply has also outpaced demand in recent years. Combined construction activity in 2010 and 2011 accounted for the second highest two-year total for apartment starts in the region since 1980. As a result, the average monthly number of apartment units under construction during the second half of 2011 was just under 600 units. In contrast, between 2005 and 2009, the monthly average for the number of apartment units under construction was just over 200 units. Consequently, the increase in the supply of new units available to local consumers has progressed at a faster pace than the local market has been able to absorb, pushing the spring 2012 vacancy rate to five per cent, up from last year’s rate of 4.1 per cent.

In Saint John, the vacancy rate was up significantly, rising to 8.4 per cent. Compared to either Fredericton or Moncton, the expansion of the local rental universe has proceeded at a relatively modest pace in Saint John in recent years. In 2011, rental starts in the Saint John CMA were limited to 80 units. Favorable housing market conditions and a lack of population growth in Saint John, combined with the continued migration of people away from the downtown area towards current and expanding residential areas (particularly to the Kennebecasis River Valley), has curbed demand for rental units, leading to the higher vacancy rate in the spring of 2012.
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