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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 5:59 PM
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Floor 92 = 1,181' 8'' ( the cocoon is up to here)
Floor 92M = 1,194, 8''
Floor 93 = 1,208' 4'' ( core columns are up to here)
Floor 93M = 1,223' 6'' ( ESB Floor #102 = 1,224''
Floor 100 = 1,240 ''

(We need pictures)
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Are these perimeter columns? Empire State Building has 27 feet left as the king of the East Coast
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A forest of steel....


DSC_0014 copy by Ceva321, on Flickr

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it's a beautiful sight!!!


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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 7:46 PM
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Thanks carlos! The steel columns are for 92M at 1,194' 8'' and floor 93 at 1,208' 4'' The 2 mounting points on those columns are about equally spaced apart in height above floor 92 at 1,181'. Floor 92 is the top row of beams behind the top of the cocoon. Look at the top picture you can see the 1st 3 large floors below floor 92. 89,90 and 91.

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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 7:55 PM
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And just when we were talking about tenants. This article just came hot off the press this morning.

A Whole Lotta Space Up for the Takin’ in 2013
By Daniel Edward Rosen
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While leasing activity for much of New York City in the past few months has been more lackluster than blockbuster, a sizable chunk of available space –sizable in the, say, 6 million square foot range– is on the cusp of hitting the market, The Wall Street Journal reports.

New developments like 1 World Trade Center, 4 World Trade Center, and Edward Minskoff’s 51 Astor Place, are all slated to hit the market in 2013. The last time NYC had this much new space becoming available was in 1989, said Cassidy Turley’s Robert Sammons.

But this isn’t giving developers like Mr. Minskoff a roaring case of agita and insomnia.

“I sleep well at night,” Mr. Minskoff told The WSJ .

As WSJ (and Commercial Observer alumni Laura Kusisto) points out:

“… the bulge in the delivery pipeline comes at a time when demand in the New York office market is showing signs of flagging because of the contraction in the financial-services industry. Tenants with more than 5,000 square feet leased 5.9 million square feet in the fourth quarter, compared with 6 million square feet in the third quarter and 6.2 million square feet in the fourth quarter of 2010, according to Colliers International.

Also, financial-services firms are likely to pull back from more than 2 million square feet of space requirements in the next couple of years. That’s going to put pressure on owners to possibly cut rents to fill space in their towers.”

In short, there’s going to be a whole lotta inventory, but not too many takers, some fear. Unveiling new space at a painful time in the market, much like the struggling 11 Times Square building (which was built during the downturn and is now roughly 60 percent vacant), can spell restless nights for owners, Ms. Kusisto reports.

“Manhattan development tends to run in cycles. There was an enormous surge of new construction in the late 1980s as developers scrambled to take advantage of expiring tax breaks.

The result: Many speculative buildings hit the market just as the national economy went into the recession of the early 1990s. Many of the developers wound up losing their buildings to banks and some of the projects sat empty for years.”

Other possible concerns are tenants who are becoming more hip to smaller and more efficient office spaces. When the leases for these tenants come up, they are taking less, not more, space.

And if firms flock for the newer buildings, it will come at the expense of older ones.

“‘What you end up with is a segmented marketplace, where certain buildings are going to lease and other buildings might just languish with empty space,’” says Paul Glickman, of Jones Lang LaSalle, who is on the team leasing 51 Astor.”

But such concerns are not keeping Mr. Minskoff and World Trade Center developer Larry Silverstein up at night… at least, not in 2012.
http://www.observer.com/2012/02/a-wh...-2013-wsj-sez/
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 8:32 PM
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So what floors are those?
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 8:33 PM
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It's absolutely thrilling to see that new steel! 1wtc is so close to being the tallest building in NYC!! Reclaiming the skyline baby!
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So let me get this straight--

We're on floor 93, but some even say when floor 93 is completed, we will be on floor 100?? How is that possible?

Does anyone know when we will be up to floor 100?
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 8:35 PM
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Oh my gawd. That is so tall in the atmosphere that you can almost see the spherical roundness of the earth!
This pic is amazing! Looks just like the view from the old north tower looking uptown! And if that is from the 79th floor, imagine what the view from the 100-102 floors will look like!
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 8:37 PM
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So let me get this straight--

We're on floor 93, but some even say when floor 93 is completed, we will be on floor 100?? How is that possible?

Does anyone know when we will be up to floor 100?
There's no 94-99 floors
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 8:42 PM
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This pic is amazing! Looks just like the view from the old north tower looking uptown! And if that is from the 79th floor, imagine what the view from the 100-102 floors will look like!
I KNOW! I am setting here going, "OH MY GOODNESS! This is incredible!!".. Well.............. Let's just say that I said more than that... Bahahaha!

I got to admit. I hated this tower at first... OKAY. I ADMIT. It's growing on me.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 8:43 PM
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There's no 94-99 floors
Ohhh? But aren't the mechanical "floors" in between those 94-99 floors?
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 8:44 PM
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So the office floors are from 20-90, and 90-94 is mechanical? And 100-102 observation, and 102-105 mechanical? I thought 90-100 were mechanical too
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 8:57 PM
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Is this another 9/11 memorial? My apologies if it has already been explained.
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And just when we were talking about tenants. This article just came hot off the press this morning.

A Whole Lotta Space Up for the Takin’ in 2013
By Daniel Edward Rosen


http://www.observer.com/2012/02/a-wh...-2013-wsj-sez/
Ouch. That's a very negative article for the future of NY skyscrapers.

Who's going to fill the new towers? The economy is still in the tank it seems. Looks like the future of NYC office buildings is weak.

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Ohhh? But aren't the mechanical "floors" in between those 94-99 floors?
well yea the mezanine floors
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 10:41 PM
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Is this another 9/11 memorial? My apologies if it has already been explained.

Yes sir, it is. It's a brand new memorial they use opened up in Jersey City called, "Empty Sky."

Take a look:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...rsey_city.html
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 10:42 PM
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Otie made this diagram. Credits to Otie.



The only change is the 102nd floor is an observation deck.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2012, 10:43 PM
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^Thanks for re-posting, need to update it with the recent changes.


Guys, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but please keep the conversation in a mature way, save your expressive comments and use PM to conversate to a specific person. Please read the last few pages before posting questions that were already answered.

Floors 20-90 are offices
Floors 91-93M are mechanical
100-102 observation
103-104M mechanical
105 roof
106-109 communication platform ring
110 platform inside the spire
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