NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,787' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS - Page 1172

Zapatan · #**23421** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 10:06 PM**

I'm losing hope,

I love how they would not compromise with the site plan to build tower 2 higher than tower 1 but they will to make things worse.

I really wish to see the people behind the WTC development jailed for their stupidity and treason, they are horrible.

SearsTower · #**23422** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 10:31 PM**

If they have to replace the spire with an antenna, it should at least be a decent looking antenna, like the one on the old north tower. Just my thoughts

CarlosV · #**23423** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 10:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by marshall

Great to see actual construction pictures again! Cool to think that in a few months, people will be coming from all over to visit the observation deck where those top splices are now! Me included.

YES! i will be the first on line to get tickets!

this is most exciting! we all can be there in a year or so!!!

DSC_0484 copy by Ceva321, on Flickr

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DSC_0482 copy by Ceva321, on Flickr

chris123678 · #**23424** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 10:36 PM**

Now that I see it up close, it looks more like a very slim, no design spire.

But has anybody noticed how ugly the communications ring is?

Why did they scrap that?

Matt · #**23425** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 10:36 PM**

This building is no longer worth following. For over a decade, New York was given the promise of having the nation's tallest building once again - and now the rug has been ripped from underneath us. For what reason? Simply because Durst does not want to find a way to include the antenna in the building's height using some architectural element?

Please... Durst should be jailed, for treason to the country. As much as I hate FOX News, they would certainly rally the conservatives to rage over this issue. "NO longer 1,776 feet tall? Oh this is symbolic for our baseless jingoism, we need to stop this". Perhaps the only thing I would ever agree with on them...

Despite being NY's tallest building, it will live in the New York skyline as a reminder of something that could have been more. It will live on in the skyline like this for centuries, an embarrassment to the great achievements that were promised but never came... how we got cheap and betrayed our own memorial to September 11, 2001...

Matthew · #**23426** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 11:11 PM**

Two World Trade Center is my favorite and it's the building I wish was designed as the tallest. I'm not a big fan of adding "toothpicks" to the roof for extra height. It's still interesting to follow construction on this building and I think it will look great when it's completed, with or without a covering on the antenna. I guess the boxy 432 Park Avenue will become New York's tallest, since the spire is no longer a spire? This is a good time to add a few more floors to Two World Trade Center, to gain the title.

Zapatan · #**23427** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 11:46 PM**

They should make tower 2 1776 feet

I would also love to hear how the spire is "dangerous"

Smellymundelly · #**23428** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 11:49 PM**

Can't wait to have this view again. Just wish they would make it outside! little guy in yellow is me

Roadcruiser1 · #**23429** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 11:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Matthew

Two World Trade Center is my favorite and it's the building I wish was designed as the tallest. I'm not a big fan of adding "toothpicks" to the roof for extra height. It's still interesting to follow construction on this building and I think it will look great when it's completed, with or without a covering on the antenna. I guess the boxy 432 Park Avenue will become New York's tallest, since the spire is no longer a spire? This is a good time to add a few more floors to Two World Trade Center, to gain the title.

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

They should make tower 2 1776 feet

I would also love to hear how the spire is "dangerous"

That is not going to happen. Two World Trade Center was designed to be part of the complex to be a spiral. Two World Trade Center will not go higher to not ruin the design of the new complex. It's not going to happen. The tallest tower doesn't have to be at the World Trade Center. There are plenty of places in New York for that. Even if the original World Trade Center was standing it would have been defeated later on too. There were taller buildings proposed that would have defeated the Twin Towers.

marshall · #**23430** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 12:21 AM**

The spire/antenna thing is becoming rendundant now..I didn't like the decision either, but there's nothing we can do about it so we just have to accept it. One World Trade Center will be a great building for New York and the skyline, and a big attraction. It is basically a replacement of one of the Twin Towers because it is the exact same roof height. So basically we are picking up where we left off before 9/11. If they had wanted to avoid the spire/antenna controversy they could have just made its roof height 1776 feet or whatever. But that didn't happen, the building will be 1368/1374 feet and thats pretty much that.

Like Roadcruiser said, where is it written in stone that the tallest building in New York has to be at the World Trade Center? Soon 432 Park will be taller by roof height than 1WTC anyway. One World Trade Center will be a big focal point and fill a big void in the skyline, and reclaim the height of the Twin Towers. Lastly, if you think about it historically, since 1WTC will be the SAME height as the old Twin Towers, (which were indeed the tallest in the world briefly in the early 70s) you can basically say that 1WTC was the tallest in the world too at one point, since it's height is the same as the Twins..The World Trade Center is not the only supertall game in town anymore however, which is a good thing for the skyline.

Matthew · #**23431** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 12:49 AM**

We've seen design changes in the past and are talking about one now. I doubt a height increase at tower two would happen, but it's an interesting compromise to bring the nation's tallest title to NYC. I doubt it would happen, due to the impact on line of sight broadcasting from Tower One's antenna.

Seeing new buildings over 1,000 feet (roof) is rare in this country. Something over 1,300 feet is extremely rare! Developers look for a good return on their investment over height. Projects designed to reach heights like this are rare. Tower One or 432 Park could hold the city's tallest title for decades. I love the design of Tower Two more and would like to see it as the tallest, but that is just my opinion. As I said earlier and marshall also said, Tower One will still look great. I don't think any antenna design changes will change that.

NYC GUY · #**23432** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 12:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by marshall

The spire/antenna thing is becoming rendundant now..I didn't like the decision either, but there's nothing we can do about it so we just have to accept it. One World Trade Center will be a great building for New York and the skyline, and a big attraction. It is basically a replacement of one of the Twin Towers because it is the exact same roof height. So basically we are picking up where we left off before 9/11. If they had wanted to avoid the spire/antenna controversy they could have just made its roof height 1776 feet or whatever. But that didn't happen, the building will be 1368/1374 feet and thats pretty much that.

Like Roadcruiser said, where is it written in stone that the tallest building in New York has to be at the World Trade Center? Soon 432 Park will be taller by roof height than 1WTC anyway. One World Trade Center will be a big focal point and fill a big void in the skyline, and reclaim the height of the Twin Towers. Lastly, if you think about it historically, since 1WTC will be the SAME height as the old Twin Towers, (which were indeed the tallest in the world briefly in the early 70s) you can basically say that 1WTC was the tallest in the world too at one point, since it's height is the same as the Twins..The World Trade Center is not the only supertall game in town anymore however, which is a good thing for the skyline.

But they could they at least make the spire look nice. The PA has been telling us 1776' feet 1776' feet 1776' feet ''Tallest in America'', Tallest in the Western Hemisphere'', since the design came out and to change the height at the last minute is just embarrasing. But I still really like 1WTC .

NYC=WTC · #**23433** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 1:34 AM**

Does anyone know when the tenants can move in and when the observation deck will officially open on 1wtc?

Zapatan · #**23434** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 1:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1

That is not going to happen. Two World Trade Center was designed to be part of the complex to be a spiral.

The complex was also designed to have a 1776 foot building, and we all see how that worked out.

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Two World Trade Center will not go higher to not ruin the design of the new complex

I think 1WTC's lack of spire has already done that... in fact I think a taller 2WTC would look fine. The problem is that the foundation has already been laid, who knows if they can fluctuate a few floors.

Obviously this won't happen or probably won't considering they're already having enough trouble finding tenants.

Zapatan · #**23435** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 2:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by marshall

It is basically a replacement of one of the Twin Towers because it is the exact same roof height. So basically we are picking up where we left off before 9/11.

except there were two of the twin towers, they were also wide all the way to the top.

It's an amazing building by itself, but for what it's replacing it falls a bit short, but in the end I'll settle for it. And at this point I would prefer nothing go on the roof instead of that god awful antenna. I know it's redundant to hear complaints about the spire loss, but NYC's skyline is kind of ruined, that's a big deal.

Zapatan · #**23436** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 2:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by Matthew

Seeing new buildings over 1,000 feet (roof) is rare in this country. Something over 1,300 feet is extremely rare! Developers look for a good return on their investment over height. Projects designed to reach heights like this are rare. Tower One or 432 Park could hold the city's tallest title for decades. I love the design of Tower Two more and would like to see it as the tallest, but that is just my opinion. As I said earlier and marshall also said, Tower One will still look great. I don't think any antenna design changes will change that.

New buildings over 1000 feet are rare if not non existent in just about every country minus China and the maybe the UAE. The US will see more than most of the world this decade, so we should be thankful for that. There are already proposals in NY that could possibly top both Tower 1 and 432, so I wouldn't say they'll be the tallest for too long.

PS. sorry for three posts, I just realized that.

Roadcruiser1 · #**23437** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 2:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by NYC=WTC

Does anyone know when the tenants can move in and when the observation deck will officially open on 1wtc?

Mid-Late 2013.

Duck From NY · #**23438** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 2:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

The complex was also designed to have a 1776 foot building, and we all see how that worked out.

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Exactly! And to top it all off (excuse the pun), they were obviously planning to gut the spire a while ago. The scoundrels!

This is why I will no longer pay any attention to any news about any part of any structure on the site until it's under-construction. From now on I'll just enjoy the construction photos.

WTCman7301 · #**23439** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 2:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1

Mid-Late 2013.

I thought it was mid-2014.

Jonboy1983 · #**23440** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 2:16 AM**

Man, allowing Durst to have ANY stake in this building was a huge mistake! They should have told him to go take a flying leap into the Hudson River, but alas, hindsight is 20/20...