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Totojuice · #**25701** Posted: **Aug 9, 2012, 11:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by jd3189

if nyc ever builds a tower similar to the chicago spire, they should follow the design of 1 wtc's spire. If it doesn't show up on top of this tower, it might as well be its own.

hudson yards!!!

Totojuice · #**25702** Posted: **Aug 9, 2012, 11:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by NewYorker2009

Fuck Douglas Durst.

I wrote a letter to Governor Cuomo today. Let's see if active citizenship works.

KevinFromTexas · #**25703** Posted: **Aug 9, 2012, 11:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Traynor

For me, I am just sad that the loss of the Spire's tapered shape has removed the very powerful symbolism it would have had at night:

The whole tower as a lone candle, lit and standing vigil for all that was lost. No amount of fancy rainbow-coloured LED's could evoke the gravitas of what 1WTC truly stands for.

Interesting. I hadn't thought of it that way. And a solid white spire would have a certain solid element to it while at the same time being something soft and solemn.

TechTalkGuy · #**25704** Posted: **Aug 9, 2012, 11:51 PM**

Just a thought, they could always add a much taller spire atop 4 WTC (that might look better than the one atop 4 Times Square (Conde Nast)).

Enigmatism415 · #**25705** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 12:10 AM**

Looks like more spandrels are in, second from highest tier on what appears to be the western half (I can only confirm the north-western quadrant visually at the moment).

Davidsam52 · #**25706** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 12:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by Totojuice

lofl.

Second pic didn't make it. Who (what ) are you compaing him to?

UPDATE I saw the first post...that is FUNNY!

Arawooho · #**25707** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 12:39 AM**

Taken from my Friend Danny Bracy from across the river in Jersey.

UTEPman · #**25708** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 12:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by Bill Ditnow

With some ingenuity this spire design could have been essentially the building design, a building rearing far into the sky as a torch.

Absent that, the spire would have helped somewhat to uplift the mediocre building underneath it. Now we are not even getting the spire, but a bland generic office tower with a run-of-the-mill toothpick stuck on top at the most important architectural site in the country.

Well done, US of A! If you want to know why the American Century is a thing of the past, consider this state of affairs along with many, many other reasons.

It's a sad country we live in these days.

This could have been a bright spot in the great recession, but unfortunately they've let it dwindle down to a run of the mil office tower.

Wish I had the money/power to make these buildings happen. Things would be quite different....

Traynor · #**25709** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 12:51 AM**

With all my respect for the 22,000 real victims of the Katyn Massacre, I think that monument also depicts how New Yorkers and indeed the free World, feel after Durst got a hold of the site...

Stabbed in the back.

Jonboy1983 · #**25710** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 1:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by Totojuice

lofl.

I still say that son of a bitch should be permanently removed from anything pertaining to highrise design.

He's damned lucky Childs didn't (isn't going to) sue over that.

Patrick · #**25711** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 1:15 AM**

Some pictures from my trip to New England a few weeks ago...

deepen915 · #**25712** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 1:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by CarlosV

well here it is....not much more

DSC_0003[1] by Ceva321, on Flickr

oh.. damn. thx anyway. haha btw, where did you take this from?

deepen915 · #**25713** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 1:26 AM**

" For example, the tower’s base will be covered in 13-foot vertical glass fins, not prismatic glass, and the mast atop the roof will be exposed, not sheathed in fiberglass panels."

"Douglas Durst has said the changes were not made in a money-saving effort."

yeah, my a**.. that screams out "money-saving.".. Durst is a POS scumbag. I know we've all known this, but I just got more pissed off after reading this.

http://therealdeal.com/blog/2012/08/...-wtc-revealed/

NYC GUY · #**25714** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 1:46 AM**

I still think you could add the radome even when the towers completed cause its the same plan just with no covering.

NYguy · #**25715** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 1:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by Traynor

Please don't correct everything I write. But allow me to correct you:

The Liberty Torch reference was for the previous design of the tower with the offset spire, when Libeskind and Childs collaborated. Not Childs' final design.
Most people still make that mistake.

NO, the spire was always maintained to be a reference to Liberty's upraised torch - that's why it was always been designed as a sculptural element, and not just a pole placed on top.
You're welcome.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...om-tower_x.htm

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The latest design of the 1,776-foot Freedom Tower in New York. Designed to evoke the Statue of Liberty's torch, the spire that tops the tower will feature
a revolving beacon that could change color and cast beams of light into the sky, while thousands of glass prisms will cover the building's 20-story, windowless base.

http://www.cqservices.com/local_news...?StoryID=28132

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The latest design of the skyscraper being built to replace the World Trade Center covers its 20-story concrete base with thousands of glass prisms
and tops it with a lighted spire meant to resemble the Statue of Liberty's torch, the lead architect said Wednesday.

When all is said and done, once you realize that the antenna is not meant to be a part of the tower's design, the renderings are actually pretty nice.

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STR · #**25716** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 2:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by deepen915

" For example, the tower’s base will be covered in 13-foot vertical glass fins, not prismatic glass, and the mast atop the roof will be exposed, not sheathed in fiberglass panels."

"Douglas Durst has said the changes were not made in a money-saving effort."

yeah, my a**.. that screams out "money-saving.".. Durst is a POS scumbag. I know we've all known this, but I just got more pissed off after reading this.

http://therealdeal.com/blog/2012/08/...-wtc-revealed/

Well, the base wasn't a financial change. The Chinese contractor couldn't make the prismatic glass to-spec with enough strength to avoid being a hazard to the public in case of a truck bomb.

CarlosV · #**25717** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 2:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by deepen915

oh.. damn. thx anyway. haha btw, where did you take this from?

taken from my penthouse...

DSC_0002 copy by Ceva321, on Flickr

Silverfox · #**25718** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 3:47 AM**

How difficult would it be to clad the spire someday in the future, with the cranes already taken down and everything? I'd imagine the cranes would be rather difficult and expensive to re-assemble after the building is complete and they're already removed. Wouldn't it involve removing a strip of cladding off the side again just to bring the large parts up?

Davidsam52 · #**25719** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 3:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by STR

Well, the base wasn't a financial change. The Chinese contractor couldn't make the prismatic glass to-spec with enough strength to avoid being a hazard to the public in case of a truck bomb.

Check

Davidsam52 · #**25720** Posted: **Aug 10, 2012, 3:51 AM**

From the looks of Carlos' pic, I'd say we're very close to where the louvers begin on the cladding, based upon the renders.