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Old Posted Sep 17, 2010, 5:00 PM
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If they keep going at this rate, is it unfair to expect they will be past the projected 55, at the end of the year?
Likely around floor 60!
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yay tower cranes just jumped up again. now with in a week we will arrive to floor 39 and 40, finnaly making it to the 40s now.


but one thing. How are they goign to take the cranes down once the tower is toppled off?

Probably a derrick on the roof
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Probably a derrick on the roof
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milestone this thread just hit it's 500th page
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500th page and the world's most watched skyscraper under construction.
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With an expected completion date of 2013, 1 World Trade Center is the most expensive skyscraper ever constructed in the United States, with a price tag currently estimated at $3.3 billion. By contrast, the spanking new Bank of America Tower in Midtown Manhattan cost about $2 billion. That is pretty much the going rate for building new skyscrapers in New York City. Just to break even, 1 World Trade Center will require rents far higher than the going rate in Midtown, much less downtown New York, where the building is located and where rents are considerably lower.

A few weeks ago, the news leaked that the Port Authority was negotiating with Condé Nast to become a tenant in the building. Because Condé Nast is one of the most glamorous companies in New York, it would be a boost to the prospects of 1 World Trade Center to have it in the building. But it won’t be economical: the Port Authority told me that, assuming a deal goes through, Condé Nast would most likely be paying the current market rate for downtown space — that is, less than half what it needed to break even. It will also undoubtedly be locked into that rate for many years. Luring Condé Nast downtown is going to be expensive for the Port Authority.

Not surprisingly, the Port Authority disagrees with my analysis. It points to the fact that it has close to $1 billion in insurance proceeds that it is using to defray the cost of the building. And it says its break-even number is much lower than $130 a square foot.

“It is not going to get a typical developer’s rate of return,” conceded Rich Gladstone, the Port Authority’s point man on the project. “But it will be cash-flow positive.” He insisted that the commuters who pay their $8 a day to cross the George Washington Bridge would never have to support 1 World Trade Center. Of course that’s easy to say now, with the building still two years away from completion.

Still, the Port Authority made another recent move intended to ensure the success of the building. It sold a small piece of the equity in 1 World Trade Center — around 5 percent — to the Durst Organization, for a reported $100 million. It is a great deal for Durst, one of the biggest and savviest commercial developers in New York. (It built the Bank of America Tower, for instance.) Its investment values the building at $2 billion, far less than it cost to build, so if it rises in value, Durst gets the upside. And in return for its $100 million, Durst gets to manage the building for the Port Authority, an arrangement that will allow it to reap fees for everything from finding tenants to reconfiguring office space. It is also a deal filled with a certain, undeniable irony, which has not been lost on anybody in New York real estate circles.
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yay tower cranes just jumped up again. now with in a week we will arrive to floor 39 and 40, finnaly making it to the 40s now.


but one thing. How are they goign to take the cranes down once the tower is toppled off?
toppled off?? i know its a typo, but its still funny...
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Probably with a derrick.
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The docks no longer exist today because they were essentially the dumping ground for the original World Trade Center's excavated foundation. The Battery Park City area ground is essentially all landfill.

Also, take note that the original World Trade Center site was created in a process not too different than the process used to create public housing projects - eminent domain. The previous tenants on that site was Radio Row, a thriving electronics business and residential district. Of course, the PA NY/NJ couldn't quite make the claim that this was a "slum" that needed to be cleared in the name of progress and development, as had happened to many residents throughout the city whose homes were taken and razed for public housing and other projects. But the result was much the same, only prettier and more successful.
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yay tower cranes just jumped up again. now with in a week we will arrive to floor 39 and 40, finnaly making it to the 40s now.


but one thing. How are they goign to take the cranes down once the tower is toppled off?
Usually, one of the tower cranes takes down the rest, then brings up a smaller crane. The smaller crane takes down the last tower crane then brings up a smaller crane.

This repeats until they have something small enough to take down in the freight elevators.

Tower One will have a permanently mounted crane on the roof to service the communications equipment and it might be used to take down one of the smaller cranes and save a few steps in the process.

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*The following information was last updated on September 17, 2010.

* Multiple cranes on site for steel and concrete installation
* Installation of hydraulic crane
* Tower steel is now above floor 36
* Concrete is now being installed above floors 29 and 30
* Both the south and north cores are now being erected as the structure rises
* "Cocoon" safety system now in place around upper perimeter, to rise with structure
* Final concrete installation on the sub-grade structure, including the surrounding plaza
* Utility installation and tie-ins
* Crews are coordinating substructure construction while maintaining PATH service
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Thanks GB.

They are all set to go 39, 40. Just as soon as the 38th floor is decked out.
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Hmmm... at this rate they'll get to the 50th floor by the end of the year. The port was saying up to the 56th floor by years end but I imagine that was just a best estimate. This certainly has been the most lively part of the construction in any year so far.
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Hmmm... at this rate they'll get to the 50th floor by the end of the year. The port was saying up to the 56th floor by years end but I imagine that was just a best estimate. This certainly has been the most lively part of the construction in any year so far.
Not necessarily, we're getting into the fall and eventually winter when the weather is changing. Things always move slower on the site November-March because of bad weather and the holiday season.
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10,000 posts, excellent progress too, looking forward to my trip next month at the end of October what floor will we be at?
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Since the tower tapers as it rises floors should actually start to increase in speed or at least maintain their current pace with bad weather.
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