NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,787' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS - Page 594

Obey · #**11861** Posted: **Jan 8, 2011, 11:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by sw5710

The 360' Antenna including mast was built in 78 or 79 years after the twins opened .

I think you mean 1978 or 1979, to be more clear.

STR · #**11862** Posted: **Jan 8, 2011, 11:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by CoolCzech

I'm not so sure - the antenna for 1WTC was an afterthought; this spire is integral to the design.

No, it wasn't. In fact, the whole reason why the North Tower was completed before the other one was pressure from broadcasters to get the antenna up because there was a big fear of ghosting, a phenomenon where you get double-images on TV when an analogue signal comes directly to you, followed a split second later by the same signal after it bounced off a large object and got reflected in your direction.

Both of the buildings were redesigned in 1966 to hold 400 foot broadcast masts. Only Tower 1 ever got one installed.

sw5710 · #**11863** Posted: **Jan 8, 2011, 11:57 PM**

1 World Trade Center V1 was topped out in 1970 and at first had a 150' tower on top. Then in 1978 that one was replaced with the 360 foot mast and antenna.

asharmaearth411 · #**11864** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 1:06 AM**

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dchan · #**11865** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 5:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by STR

No, it wasn't. In fact, the whole reason why the North Tower was completed before the other one was pressure from broadcasters to get the antenna up because there was a big fear of ghosting, a phenomenon where you get double-images on TV when an analogue signal comes directly to you, followed a split second later by the same signal after it bounced off a large object and got reflected in your direction.

Both of the buildings were redesigned in 1966 to hold 400 foot broadcast masts. Only Tower 1 ever got one installed.

Off-topic. I'd much, much rather have those old ghosted analog signals than the indecipherable digital mumbo-jumbo that we get half the time on free TV (that is, if you still use the rabbit ears like I do). With analog, I could at least have a good idea of what's going on and hear whatever's actually being broadcasted uninterrupted during bad reception.

I already knew beforehand how bad it could potentially be like when I saw how unwatchable some cable channels were with bad digital signal reception. And given how poor NYC broadcast signal quality became after 9/11, I thought digital broadcast TV was going to be a utter disaster. The signal issue has turned out to be better than I had thought initially, but it has become much more annoying this past year.

Hopefully, with WTC1v.2 and its antennae, the NYC broadcast signal quality will be much less of an issue. I know that many here might laugh off this issue, but there are still many who can't afford cable or satellite TV.

Lecom · #**11866** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 5:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by STR

No, it wasn't. In fact, the whole reason why the North Tower was completed before the other one was pressure from broadcasters to get the antenna up because there was a big fear of ghosting, a phenomenon where you get double-images on TV when an analogue signal comes directly to you, followed a split second later by the same signal after it bounced off a large object and got reflected in your direction.

Both of the buildings were redesigned in 1966 to hold 400 foot broadcast masts. Only Tower 1 ever got one installed.

But Yamasaki did not actually design the antennas themselves, provide their schematic drawings and specs, etc. Not to start a spire vs antenna debate, but the original WTC antenna was not an integral part of the design for the One World Trade Center project, nor was it included in the shematic drawing compilation provided to the contractors, etc. It's a different case with the new 1WTC.

Onn · #**11867** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 5:55 AM**

philliefan99

STR · #**11868** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 6:27 AM**

I was thinking in terms of structurally. Artistically...I'm not sure who designed the antenna.

Anyway...people seem to like the interior images. So here y'all go.

Lecom · #**11869** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 6:59 AM**

Cool. Can you post one from the 24th floor, where the wedge is the narrowest yet is still wide enough to constitute actual windows?

STR · #**11870** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 7:22 AM**

I'll see what I can do. That last one is from about the 28th.

Until then, here's something fun.

asharmaearth411 · #**11871** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 2:45 PM**

It has been a long time I made a Progress Update video on the World Trade Center. On December 29th, 2010, I visited the site and to my surprise a lot has been done. This video features two songs from Ryan Farish's latest album, "Opus"--

- Perpetual Motion
- Vertical Horizon

• Video Link

Wishing Everyone A Happy New Year! - Cheers
An ASharmaEarth411 Production***

Enjoy!

OneWorldTradeCenter · #**11872** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 2:53 PM**

Two great night shots:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...19362&page=942

MadGnome · #**11873** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 3:15 PM**

A little perspective on the spire. It might look like a stick, but it's about 20 feet in diameter at the bottom. You could fit an office in that thing.

MadGnome · #**11874** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 5:31 PM**

About the render. Will there only be three guy cables for the spire? I realize you could pull the moon out of orbit with those kevlar beasts, but somehow I had the idea there were more.

Zensteeldude · #**11875** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 5:50 PM**

4 pairs, or 8 total.

Complex01 · #**11876** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 6:55 PM**

Wow its getting up there. Have not see it in a while. Its looking very nice...

STR · #**11877** Posted: **Jan 9, 2011, 8:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by MadGnome

About the render. Will there only be three guy cables for the spire? I realize you could pull the moon out of orbit with those kevlar beasts, but somehow I had the idea there were more.

There's actually 4, you just can't see the one behind the antenna.

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Originally Posted by Zensteeldude

4 pairs, or 8 total.

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