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With rumours going around saying that the new arena will be at Highfield Sq. location, If I were Tims, I would be reopening.
I'm sure that Tim's will have a presence in the new arena and thus wouldn't need an exterior presence.

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If they are holding on to this location and renovating it, they must know something we don't
Not necessarily. That corner is pretty prime real estate, regardless of what happens with the mall. You're on a major street downtown, and you have office buildings on all four sides.
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New Shediac jail progresses, expected to open next year
Published Wednesday July 28th, 2010

But city, developers anxious for Moncton jail property to be available
By James Foster
Times & Transcript Staff

SHEDIAC - Work is on schedule at the site of the new provincial jail being built here, but there's still no word on when Moncton might find itself with a prime piece of jail-free real estate in its downtown.


GREG AGNEW/TIMES & TRANSCRIPTThe New Brunswick government awarded the main contract for construction of the Southeast Correctional Centre to Maricon Construction Management Ltd.

Moncton City Hall and private developers have been anxious to learn when the key property on which the Moncton Detention Centre sits will become available for development. They'll have to wait a little longer to find out, say officials and politicians attending yesterday's awarding of the main contract for the Southeast Correctional Centre that is now being built here.

Minister of Business New Brunswick Victor Boudreau said once the new jail opens here next year, the fate of the Moncton facility will be up to the Department of Supply and Services (DSS).

"It will be up to them after that," Boudreau said.

Most likely, the prime downtown Moncton property would be offered to the City of Moncton or put on the market.

There is no firm date set yet for that process to begin.

The main contract for construction of the Shediac jail was awarded officially yesterday to Maricon Construction of Saint John. The job is worth $23 million.

"This important investment will ensure that the province meets a critical infrastructure need in our provincial correctional system while creating hundreds of construction jobs," Boudreau said after having a look at the construction activity.

Boudreau was speaking on behalf of Supply and Services Minister Ed Doherty.

The centre will cover 8,820 square metres, or 98,000 square feet, and will feature three accommodation units, each containing 30 cells for a total occupancy of about 150 inmates compared to the Moncton jail's capacity of 58 guests, though there are always more inmates housed there than that.

The new Shediac facility, located on Ohio Road, which borders the four-lane Moncton-to-Shediac Highway 15 (Veterans' Highway), will also include areas for admitting and discharging prisoners, medical services, program rooms, secure visitation, food services and facilities for administration and staff.

With a new jail also being built in Dalhousie, New Brunswick's capacity to house inmates will rise to 500 from today's 364.

The new jail in Dalhousie will be 3,857 square metres, or 41,519 square feet, with five accommodation units boasting 10 cells each.

Shediac Mayor Raymond Cormier has said all along that the new jail not only boosts the town's tax base by at least $700,000, but opens up many acres of land to development. The Lino Road has been a dirt service road, but it's now being chipsealed and the town and province have partnered to extend water and sewer services to that formerly unserviced area, making it ripe for future development.

Officials in Moncton have been equally eager to see the Moncton Detention Centre shut down, as it is in an area of the downtown primed for development - right behind Assomption Place and Hotel Delta Beauséjour amid a large ground-level parking area and next door to the new justice centre and courthouse now under construction.

Moncton Mayor George LeBlanc has described it as "a key piece of the downtown core and a vibrant downtown is one of our priorities, so we would be looking for a way to make that fit in with future downtown development and a way to use that property in a way that promotes vibrancy and prosperity downtown, but we don't have specific plans at this time."

Moncton's detention centre was built in the 1960s as a police station and became a jail when the police moved into a new building, the current home of the Codiac Regional RCMP, on Main Street in 1980.

Typically, when a government building is vacated, DSS inspects it and puts a value on it. If no other provincial government department can use it, it would typically be offered to the municipality. If the city declines the offer, it would then likely be put on the open market.

Shediac's new facility will look more like a modern high school than what most people think of as a jail. It sits on a 62-acre (24-hectare) parcel of land, well back from the road so it is barely visible by passersby. The closest building to it is a campground approximately one kilometre (or about one-sixth of a mile) away.

Inmates there will be serving sentences of less than two years or those who are on remand, awaiting court proceedings.

While the new jail is in Boudreau's riding, the provincial government says Lino Road is superior to a site that was considered in the Moncton Industrial Park because it is conveniently close to the four-lane highway making the drive to the Moncton courthouse only slightly longer than the industrial park site.

Personal note: Granted, the new jail is only about a 20 minute drive from the new courthouse in downtown Moncton but that's in good driving weather. I'm sure there will be days in the wintertime that will make driving treacherous and court dates could be delayed. I still think the facility should have been built closer to the urban core.

Here's a thought........why didn't they build it in the Scoudouc Industrial Park. With the new interchange under construction, that would have been less than 15 minutes from downtown and likely still would have been in Victor Boudreau's constituency!
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Well to avoid that problem they could still use the old facility as a remand center, only keep the people who have close court dates at that center and the ones purging they're time at the one in Shediac, meaning less overcrowdment at both places. Of course the facility in Moncton could be revamped or, to liberate the land, it could have been included in the basement of the new court house.

I mean, there is no sense in spending money to send a guy back to shediac if he has to come back the morning after for trial continuation, just send him downstairs.

ie; If a guy is held over the weekend to see the judge Monday morning, you just bring him there, he stay's in Moncton, see's the judge on Monday morning and is released on conditions...leading to no over population in Shediac on the weekend, and no additional stress on the guards.
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Isn't there holding cells in the Court House for such occasions?
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approximately one kilometre (or about one-sixth of a mile) away.
That's news to me.

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Here's a thought........why didn't they build it in the Scoudouc Industrial Park. With the new interchange under construction, that would have been less than 15 minutes from downtown and likely still would have been in Victor Boudreau's constituency!
Good suggestion. That location and I'm sure a whole lot of others would have been better. Although the article does tout the added tax base to Shediac, so this may (read: definitely) have contributed to it's current location.
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Isn't there holding cells in the Court House for such occasions?
Those are temporary holding cells, not designed for 24hrs or overnight stays and probably not staffed 24hrs. It's moslty the same cells you would find in a police station and they are not designed for stays of over 24hrs

In Bathurst under the court house there is a remand center, staffed by provincial prison guards. Inmates are held there for week-end remands or for awaiting trial or sentencing. Once one is convicted and sentenced, he is hauled to one of the other provincial prisons. It serves for all the Bathurst area and Acadian peninsula and is generally always over crowded (six cell/double bunks)

I'm pretty sure the court house in Moncton could have had easily 12 to 16 remand cells. This would have made less stress on the week ends for the guards in Shediac and would have been a logical choice to me.
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Well to avoid that problem they could still use the old facility as a remand center, only keep the people who have close court dates at that center and the ones purging they're time at the one in Shediac, meaning less overcrowdment at both places. Of course the facility in Moncton could be revamped or, to liberate the land, it could have been included in the basement of the new court house.
One thing I can guarantee you is that the old provincial jail downtown will definitely be torn down. That is prime development land and this was one of the principle reasons that the jail was relocated.

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The closest building to it is a campground approximately one kilometre (or about one-sixth of a mile) away.
That's news to me.
The math was purely that of the T&T reporter......not me!!

I presume he got 0.6 miles mixed up with 1/6th of a mile.


Finally, on an unrelated note. There was also mention in the T&T today that the "Peace Centre" adjacent to Central United Church will shortly be under construction. It will be a four storey multi-use office building and will be a welcome addition to the downtown.
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Why didn't they just attach the jail to the courthouse in the same building...that makes the most sense to me.

Also, maybe the Tim's location in the mall is moving to the old Tim's and MAYBE the A&W in the mall would build a new location next to shoppers down the road.

And it was me that suggested one of the Terminal Buildings get turned into a hotel. I am thinking the rectangle shaped one would suit better. I did notice though, that Purolator leases 19,699 sq. ft. @ Highfield for the National Call Center plus 24,905 sq. ft. between both of the Terminal Buildings, so if they turn the "Terminal Centres" into a hotel, leave the "Terminal Plaza Building" as is, and knock the mall down thats like at least 3-4 floors just for Purolator, in a 7 story building in which there are only 10,310 sq. ft. available per foor. Should they make the building bigger?

I found some pics of the Giant Center. I think this is what Moncton should aim for, 10,500 seats:


"The Giant Center provides a state-of-the-art home for the Bears and other events. The seating bowl design increases spectator comfort and convenience, and also provides excellent sightlines, an intimate atmosphere and dynamic acoustics for hockey.

The former facility, Hershey Park Arena, was the oldest professional hockey venue in the world, and home to the AHL Hershey Bear Hockey Club since 1938."

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Abridged articles from today's T&T

(Road) Construction season busier than normal

One of the upcoming highlights in the Moncton area is a $432,000 resurfacing of Coverdale Road from Blythwood Avenue to Trites Road, which is expected to begin in August and end in October.

The Mapleton Road construction project continues and is on schedule for an October completion. It may seem as if work has halted there at the moment, but that's only because crews have been working at night, removing wooden forms from the new section of the bridge deck and doing drilling work, while preparing another section of the bridge for waterproofing and paving.

Construction around Berry Mills and Horsman Road continues, with Horsman still remaining closed and the project being about 25 to 30 per cent complete, according to Richard.

He said Horsman is expected to be able to reopen in about a week.

A resurfacing and realigning of the off ramps on St. George Boulevard in front of Bernice MacNaughton School is just getting going and Richard said they are at least hoping to have the street lights installed by the time school starts.

Richard said work along Killam Drive near the Collishaw intersection continues and the major work should be completed in about another week, while construction on Gorge Road is about 60 per cent complete and is in line to be finished by October.

Meanwhile, work on Millenium Boulevard is about 25 per cent completed according to Richard and is still on schedule.

In Dieppe, the major project continues to be construction improvements to Paul Street. A city spokesperson said the project is going smoothly and is still on schedule for the end of the year. Work is going to be done to Melanson Road shortly to help reduce traffic speed on the street, but it shouldn't cause major traffic delays.

Starting the week of Aug. 9, a traffic circle will be constructed on the corner of Gould and Notre Dame and in the next two weeks there will also be work beginning on Gauvin Road between LaFrance Street and Thomas Street, although it's not expected to cause major traffic delays.

Meanwhile in Riverview, there is resurfacing work planned for Whitepine Road, Point Park Drive and Avondale Drive, while many other streets have already been resurfaced.

Famed chocolate can be found in Riverview

Ganong Chocolates opened up shop in the Fundy Chocolate River Station yesterday

The Fundy Chocolate River Station on Coverdale Road, located in the old Riverview fire hall, is home to the new shop where one can find the bones, jelly beans, double-dipped cherries and of course, many types of premium chocolate.

"All of the chocolate that's in here is what we call hand crafted' and it's hand-made by four ladies who work in St. Stephen," Melvin says, "The only places you can get these types of chocolates is here, St. Stephen or through the mail-order."

She believes that just having the name Ganong at the store front will bring in many customers for years to come.

And the great location helps, too.

"We love this location and we work closely with the other two shops," Melvin says, "With the maple products (Briggs), they actually do chocolate-dipped stuff that we sell in St. Stephen, and Olivier Soap has a Ganong Chocolate-scented soap."

Besides herself, Melvin has two full-time employees and two students selling and promoting the goodies. A grand opening for the facility is slated for mid-September in conjunction with Briggs Maples and the Olivier Soapery.

Melvin says it'll be a large opening that's fun for all.

"We're going to do a week-long opening full of activities."

(Crossman) Community centre receives $2M boost from gov't

The three levels of government committed to contributing more than $2 million to the construction of a new gymnasium and the completion of an indoor walking track.

The breakdown of the total number is as follows: $502,000 from the federal government through its Canada Economic Action Plan; $1.5 million from the Province of New Brunswick and $1 million from the City of Moncton.

Originally set for closure in 2002, the Kay Arena saw a swell of public support in the years that followed. The committee that was put in place had its first major success in 2008, when Phase 1 of its project was completed: the replacement of the old arena. The hope had been to complete the whole complex at once, but cost overruns forced the committee to seek a two-phase approach.

But with the funding announced last night, as well as the $500,000 secured by the fundraising committee, Hennessey is looking forward to the completion of a true year-round community centre in the eastern section of Moncton.

The completion of Phase 2 will be especially pleasing to seniors in the area, for whom the walking track was a big wish, while the gymnasium will be the first such facility owned by the City of Moncton.

All three levels of government were represented at last night's funding announcement, held in the packed lobby of the Crossman Community Centre/Kay Arena. Minister of National Revenue and of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency (ACOA) Keith Ashfield, New Brunswick's senior MP in Ottawa, was on hand along with Premier Shawn Graham and Moncton Deputy Mayor Paulette Thériault.

Deputy Mayor Thériault praised the Centre's incredible hospitality, as well as the increased accessibility it will now benefit from with the completion of Phase 2. She also directed attention to representatives of the Crossman family in the audience, noting that the community centre is very much a part of the legacy of the late Ward 1 Councillor Norman Crossman.

Applications for tender with regards to Phase 2 will be accepted until the end of the summer

Downtown wetland nearly complete

City of Moncton had to create new wetland space after extending Vaughan Harvey Blvd. to meet Gunningsville Bridge

An ambitious $821,000 project by the City of Moncton to transform a piece of land near the Gunningsville Bridge into a wetland his nearly complete and will provide a luxurious home for ducks, geese and other wildlife.


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The wetlands next to the Gunningsville Bridge are nearing completion, as little shrubs and trees have been planted to spruce up the area. Elaine Aucoin, environmental program co-ordinator for the City of Moncton, said the wetland project should be finished by the end of August.

Over the last month or so, the piece of land has been transformed from a little vacant piece of property with a natural duck pond into a park with trees, walking paths and natural vegetation.

The project began in June to replace ecologically important wetland lost when the city extended Assomption Boulevard and Vaughan Harvey Boulevard to link up with the new Gunningsville Bridge, which crosses the Petitcodiac River to Riverview. The area around the bridge has undergone major developmental changes in the last few years with construction of Vaughan Harvey Extension. As morning commuters drive to work, they can often see ducks and geese in the ponds and on the ball fields, and wild ring-necked pheasants patrolling the area. On some occasions, traffic has come to a complete stop as families of ducks or geese cross the road.

When the city paved over part of the existing wetland to create Vaughan Harvey Extension, it was bound by provincial law to compensate and create another wetland of the same size.

The large stones that had been on the site since the dismantling of the old Gunningsville Bridge were removed and taken to Centennial Park. The whole area has been dug up and the dirt sculpted to create a series of hills with walking trails and an extension of the saltwater marsh from the Petitcodiac River.

Peace Centre continues to take shape in downtown

"Work is ready to start immediately on the peace tower and we are expected to be able to move in there in late spring of 2011," she said, noting that fencing has been erected in the parking lot behind Central United Church, located at 150 Queen Street. "The foundation and all that, that's going to happen first. Their goal will be to get the structure closed in before winter sets in and then with the goal of having us there in late spring. This is a pretty exciting time for me to see this happen. I just believe that this project is going to be a benefit to our communities for many, many years to come."

The idea of the Peace Centre is to bring agencies that help people together in one central location so they can share resources and ideas while becoming a beacon for wellness in the community. The facilities at Central United Church have been renovated and will act as home base for this centre, while a new office tower is to be erected in the next year.

Non-profit organizations that are involved and plan to be situated in the centre include Family Service Moncton, Early Childhood Stimulation, the Multicultural Association of the Greater Moncton Area (MAGMA), the United Way of Greater Moncton and Southeastern New Brunswick Region and The Volunteer Centre of Southeastern New Brunswick.

Vautour-MacKay said they have also had interest expressed from a number of other tenants who want to move into the facilities and MAGMA has already made the new premises at Central United Church their home.

She added that the church phase of the project is now over 75 per cent complete and the rest of the work will be done simultaneously on the excavation and preparations for the building of the new tower.

"The plans are finished, the architect has finished all the designs and now the tenders are going out for the construction part of it," she said, noting there has also been an environmental focus with this project.

"We're really focused on being as energy efficient as we can, as green as we can and there have been ... heating and cooling systems that have already been installed that will actually benefit the tower once it's built. We're looking at all sorts of energy efficient ways to create this complex."

In February, the Peace Centre project was given a major boost when all three levels of government combined announced funding of $4.4 million, which allowed the project to go forward. Vautour-MacKay said support from government, the local community and municipality has been vital to the success of this project, which she anticipates will make a big difference in the community.

"This is going to be not only helpful for the people we serve, but certainly helpful within the network of non-profits that will be within the building," she said. "We're going to be able to share so many resources and (by) doing that, (be) able to serve the community in a far greater way than we have been in the past."

Meanwhile, construction on the project has caused closure of one of the entrances to Capitol Theatre. From now until an indefinite date, all vehicles looking to drive into the Capitol Theatre parking lot must go through the Robinson Street entrance, as the Church Street gate will be used as an exit only.

Vautour-MacKay said there are also still spaces in the Peace Centre for any community groups looking to lease a location. Anyone interested in finding out more information is asked to contact Wayne Mattice at 386-8567.
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Just a note on tims. There is a for lease sign in front now so no tennant moving in yet but it's a great location for anything
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Just a note on tims. There is a for lease sign in front now so no tennant moving in yet but it's a great location for anything
A Bar&Grill might do well there! Give me a piece of that MAX Loto tomorrow and I'll make it happen.
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If Hersheypark Stadium can host U2 why not the new stadium at U de M?

http://www.hersheyparkstadium.com/stadium_info.php
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A Bar&Grill might do well there! Give me a piece of that MAX Loto tomorrow and I'll make it happen.
If i were to win that money I would open one of these in Moncton
http://www.marybrowns.com/

Awesome chicken and taters and I think would really do well in new brunswick. Right now outside of newfoundland, ontario and alberta, nova scotia is the only place with locations, and there are only 3.
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http://www.hersheyparkstadium.com/stadium_info.php
Absolutely!!

The capacity of the Moncton 2010 Stadium is
- 10,000 seats (permanent)
- 22,000 seats (with temporary bleachers) for football.
- 25,000 people for concerts.

This is not much less than the Hershey Park Stadium. The city of Moncton has already planned for the use of the facility by concert goers. For example, the field can be covered to protect the turf from the staging and from the fans.

U2 is a possibility. One of the reasons why they are unlikely to play Magnetic Hill is that their current stage is a "theatre in the round", which makes no sense in a (natural) amphitheatre. This type of stage however would be perfect for a stadium.

If U2 can play Hershey, they can certainly play at the Moncton Stadium.
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The full scoop on the construction site at the northeast corner of the Horsman/Berry Mills intersection is that it will indeed be a Tim Hortons and also a Shell gas station, convenience store and car wash. They no doubt intend to capitalize on their close proximity to the expansion of the Moncton Industrial Park.
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if only that had been built a few years ago. I could've saved myself a few dozen trips to the Big Stop for Tims coffee on the way to Fredericton.
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Absolutely!!

The capacity of the Moncton 2010 Stadium is
- 10,000 seats (permanent)
- 22,000 seats (with temporary bleachers) for football.
- 25,000 people for concerts.

This is not much less than the Hershey Park Stadium. The city of Moncton has already planned for the use of the facility by concert goers. For example, the field can be covered to protect the turf from the staging and from the fans.

U2 is a possibility. One of the reasons why they are unlikely to play Magnetic Hill is that their current stage is a "theatre in the round", which makes no sense in a (natural) amphitheatre. This type of stage however would be perfect for a stadium.

If U2 can play Hershey, they can certainly play at the Moncton Stadium.
My thoughts exactly....Bring it on.....
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If i were to win that money I would open one of these in Moncton
http://www.marybrowns.com/

Awesome chicken and taters and I think would really do well in new brunswick. Right now outside of newfoundland, ontario and alberta, nova scotia is the only place with locations, and there are only 3.
Mary Browns in Moncton would rock! Their taters are awesome!

But it would also be bad because I'd be eating 'way too many' taters :p

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Moncton boasts $69M in construction so far in 2010
Published Friday July 30th, 2010

June numbers show 144 permits issued worth $15.1 millionn
By Yvon Gauvin
Times & Transcript staff

New construction in Moncton is running at a fever pitch with values for permits issued in the first half of 2010 climbing to the second highest ever total on record for the city.

The city released building figures for June that showed 144 permits for $15.1 million worth of construction, driving up the total for the first half of 2010 to 560 permits for $69.3 million of construction, the second highest total in construction value for the first half of a season since the city began keeping records of building permits.

"The story behind our first half is that we've had these strong building permit numbers based on a broad range of construction and not necessarily the large-scale projects as in recent years," said Mayor George LeBlanc. "We're seeing a wide variety of new construction from residential to refurbishing older facilities to the construction of modern commercial buildings," he added.

"I think it's important to recognize that we're seeing several layers of investment in Moncton from new home owners, expanding businesses and long-standing institutions within our city. This diversity tells me Moncton remains a good place to invest."

During the first half of 2010, a total of $35.6 million in residential construction permits were issued. Another $23.8 million was in commercial industrial permits, and $8.6 million from both the government and institutional sectors. In June, residential construction values total $9.2 million, about 60 per cent of the total, with 69 permits approved. Nineteen commercial and industrial construction permits were issued for a total of $5.2 million. Highlights in the June building permit report include a permit for $1.9 million worth of renovations to the Aberdeen Cultural Centre at 140 Botsford St.; a permit to Merchants Bank Development Ltd. valued at $1.9 million for construction of a Tim Hortons/Shell Station at 151 Horsman Rd.; a permit to Castlemount Properties Inc. worth $1.1 million to construct a 16-unit apartment building at 45 Fairview Knoll Dr.; a permit to Ventura Holdings valued at $504,000 for an addition to an existing warehouse at 250 Beaverbrook St., and a permit to Caber Industrial Properties valued at $135,000 to construct an office at 2 Galloway St.

Personal note: The most impressive thing about these building permit figures is that the only major public project ongoing in the city proper is the new courthouse. Even despite this, we are still having the second strongest construction season on record. The figures from last year were inflated by projects such as the new sports stadium and the casino. This to me is an excellent indication of a strong and diversified economy with substantial private sector investment.

I should try and dig up the building permit values for the whole metropolitan area..........I'm sure they would be similarly impressive.
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