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Old Posted: Feb 24, 2007, 7:11 AM
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Developer plans minicity for second phase of the Domain in North Austin

Whoa. We're easily talking about new tallest buildings outside of downtown here folks. Up to twice the height of current tallest buildings outside of downtown.

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From the Austin American-Statesman
http://www.statesman.com/news/conten.../24domain.html

Developer plans minicity for second phase of the Domain in North Austin

By Kate Miller Morton
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF


Saturday, February 24, 2007

The sleek, high-end shops such as Neiman Marcus and Tiffany & Co., scheduled to open March 9 at the Domain shopping center, stand in sharp contrast to the gritty industrial and commercial buildings around them.

But Endeavor Real Estate Group's preliminary plans for the 177-acre second phase of the North Austin development could soon change that.

Endeavor plans to replace nearly a dozen aging, low-rise buildings and sprawling surface parking lots with as many as 50 residential, retail, office and parking structures ranging from two to 26 stories. A 9-acre park, an outdoor amphitheater and hike-and-bike trails are also planned.

Ambitious and expensive, the development envisioned along Burnet Road would require the city to significantly increase the maximum height and density allowed on the land and could require public incentives to offset some of the cost.

City leaders seem largely supportive of the project, which could give a serious boost to the city's wish to transform about 2,240 acres of sparsely populated and largely commercial and industrial property in the area into a compact minicity with as many as 82,000 residents and more than 50,000 workers in the next 25 to 30 years.

"It will become a major catalyst for the creation of our second downtown," City Council Member Brewster McCracken said of the project.

The Gateway/North Burnet planning area is widely viewed by city leaders, transportation planners and land planners as an ideal place for the type of large, compact mixed-use developments the city says it needs to accommodate a rapidly growing population without exacerbating sprawl.

Bounded by MoPac Boulevard (Loop 1), U.S. 183 and Metric Boulevard, and directly in the path of two potential passenger rail lines, the area has the transportation network needed to move large numbers of people.

Water, wastewater and utility services exist in the area. Although the city expects it to cost hundreds of millions of dollars to upgrade those services and local streets to handle the type of development it envisions, it would still be cheaper than starting from scratch in a suburban location.

And because the area is mostly commercial and has few residents, dramatically changing its character would likely draw little opposition from neighborhood groups.

"When you are talking about doing that in someone's backyard, it's much more difficult," Austin Planning Commission member Cid Galindo said.

Planning efforts are ongoing, and city staff members caution that projections of about 82,000 residents and 50,000 workers represent a best-case scenario if the entire area is developed according to the plan.

Endeavor plans to begin construction on the second phase of the Domain this summer starting with a six-story, 185,000-square-foot office building and a 238-unit apartment building of up to eight stories.

The developer asked the city to rezone the property to increase the maximum heights allowed from 120 feet to 310 feet. It is also sought permission to build slightly more square footage per acre than is allowed in the central business district.

The Planning Commission recommended approving Endeavor's request to amend its development agreement but with heights limited to 308 feet and density about equal to that downtown.

The City Council is scheduled to hear the proposal Thursday.

It is far from certain that Endeavor will be able to achieve its vision even if it is able to win city approval for its requests.

High-density, mixed-use developments are significantly more expensive to build than traditional suburban developments, and the second phase of the Domain promises to be especially challenging.

Buildings must be demolished, integrated street grids built and utility lines relocated. Structured parking garages will be many times more expensive to build than surface lots, and the planned development would require dozens of them.

Endeavor is likely to ask the city for incentives to help defray costs, but it has not made any specific proposals.

"We are exploring that possibility," Endeavor principal Kirk Rudy said. "It's a very expensive undertaking."

It would not be the first time Endeavor asked for public money to offset the costs of a large project.

In 2003, the city agreed to rebate $37 million in sales and property taxes over 20 years for the first phase of the Domain. Travis County agreed to rebate as much as $9.3 million in property taxes in the same period.

But Endeavor has developed many large traditional, low-density retail and office projects in Central Texas without requesting public incentives, including the 1.6 million-square-foot Southpark Meadows shopping center at Slaughter Lane and Interstate 35.

Rudy said Endeavor owns the property for the second phase of the Domain and will build something there with or without public money.

But if Endeavor has to shoulder all of the costs, he said, the project will look much more like Southpark Meadows with its low-rise buildings and surface parking lots than the second downtown the city envisions.

McCracken said the city probably would be open to discussing reimbursements for public facilities needed in and around the Domain project, including park systems, roads and water lines, but would not entertain subsidies for Endeavor's operational expenses such as rent subsidies.

The city paid for much of the public infrastructure upgrades at the 711-acre former Robert Mueller Municipal Airport including roads, water and wastewater lines, and recently agreed to finance and own a parking garage at the mixed-use redevelopment of the Seaholm Power Plant downtown.

The city is already considering how to fund the costly upgrades to city services and facilities needed to support the high-density development called for in the Gateway/North Burnet plan.

McCracken said numerous financing options are being discussed including setting aside a portion of sales and property taxes generated by development in the area.

McCracken says a second downtown is inevitable given Austin's projected growth. The question is whether it will become a compact, attractive and efficient area like the city's original downtown, which generates far more tax revenue than it consumes in services, or consist of miles of sprawling office parks, retail centers and gated low-rise apartments like those around the Galleria in Houston or Las Colinas in Dallas.

"We can sit on our hands and hope that some day we are able to pass a bond package that would allow us to build the water pipes, and then hope once we put in the water pipes, streets and sidewalks, that development will follow, or we can have dynamic financing structures in place to create our second downtown now and create it with affordable housing, green building, integrated transit and a park system," McCracken said.

So far, the city's calls for high-density development in the area have met with little opposition, though dissent is sure to increase as details about rezoning, height restrictions and land entitlements are discussed in the spring.

Scott Peterson, a resident of the nearby Scofield Farms neighborhood, is concerned that the mixed uses and availability of mass transit won't be enough to get people to give up their cars, placing tens of thousands of new drivers on already congested streets near his home.

"If people can't live without their cars, then basically it makes this area much more congested," Peterson said. "Other areas might benefit because the population growth didn't happen in their area, but in this area it will be total gridlock."

Planned development

The Domain Phase I

Acres: 57

Retail: 700,000 square feet

Office: 75,000 square feet

Apartments: 400

Scheduled to open: March 2007

The Domain Phase II

Acres: 177

Retail: 1.2 million square feet

Office: 3.5 million to 4 million square feet

Apartments and condos: 4,000 to 6,000

Maximum height: 308 feet

Scheduled to start: Summer 2007

Estimated build-out: 15 years

City planners envision high-density, mixed-use development in the 2,243-acre Gateway/North Burnet planning area that in 25 to 30 years could eventually include as many as:

81,904 residents

41,158 apartments, condominiums and townhouses

0 single-family homes

51,536 jobs

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Old Posted: Feb 24, 2007, 12:33 PM
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OUTSTANDING!!!!!!
Great post.
I couldn't be more pleased with this news.
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The growth in Austin is unbelievable. If this second phase is fully realized it would drastically improve the asthetics of that area of Austin.
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Kinda like the "Woodlands of the West"
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Here's a map, per the request of liveattheoasis.

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Can someone put this place on a map in relation to downtown?
This would be located 8 miles northwest of downtown. I used the center of downtown as the point of reference, around the Frost Bank Tower area, and drew the line to the center of The Domain area. That area would be bounded by Mopac, (Loop 1), to the west, US 183 to the south, Metric Boulevard to the east, and I assume Braker Lane to the north. It's also bounded on the east and west by two rail lines.

The blue outlined area to the north is The Domain and the blue outlined area to the south is downtown, the UT Campus and West Campus.
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This IS fantastic news! I hope this vision comes to fruition.

Kevin, just for clarification, the area you have highlighted in blue would appear to be UT's Pickle Research Campus, and The Domain would be north of Braker Lane (which runs across the very top of the map). Nevertheless, the Pickle Research campus lies in the heart of the area descirbed as the North Burnet/Gateway planning area.
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Since when did the city move ABIA???


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Happened to speak with a couple of developers working on this project tonight concerning phase II. They think this will be about a 12 year project. I was a little amazed by that, considering a skyscraper can be constructed in ~3 years.
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A Second Downtown For Austin?

A Second Downtown For Austin?


Austin is on the move again, and Sunday, KXAN learned about the latest plans that would bring new development to North Austin.

Imagine a second downtown at the intersection of Burnet and Braker Road. This Thursday, the Austin City Council will discuss the development of 2,200 acres of land.

"It's really going to transform this area from decaying warehouses into the vibrant second downtown of Austin," said City Council Member Brewster McCracken. "A new, second downtown done right can transform this community, build our tax base, create new places for folks to live and particularly for folks who live in the northern part of the city to have a great new place to come live, work and play."

The area will be designed to welcome 80,000 more people to the area, with plans for 300-foot buildings, parks and an outdoor music arena.

Work will start in the next year, with a completion date of 20 to 25 years from now.


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Here's another article published in a local copy of "Community Impact" monthly. FYI... the mall plan published in this article is not a complete listing. For some reason, they left out at least 20% of the stores, including Macy's, Border's Books, and Oakville Grocery, among others. Those stores are just off the left side of their map, oriented in a perpendicular E-W wing.

Simon has the complete floor plans here: http://www.simon.com/mall/images/flo...DomainMall.gif & Store Listing: http://www.simon.com/mall/directory.aspx?ID=1207

Article from Community Impact Paper:
http://www.impactnewspaper.com/www/docs/195.1382

Downtown living moves north
Upscale shops and urban living replace landmark

By Rachel Youens


To shoppers, The Domain means trying on rings at Tiffany’s. To Endeavor Real Estate, the Domain means defining the urban Austin lifestyle for the next 100 years.

As the city has expanded, Northwest Austin has largely been regarded as a suburb, but recently new attention has been focused on the area. When The Domain opens March 9, it will create a new model for Austin growth.

“Endeavor envisioned The Domain as a dense, urban, transit-oriented development, with a vertical mixed-use element,” said Chad Marsh Endeavor Principal in charge of The Domain. “It will take a lot of cars off the roads and have all the things people want close by.”

Boom and Bust
In 1999, at the peak of the tech boom, IBM stopped manufacturing operations and sold the 2.8 million sq. ft. of property wedged between MoPac and Burnet Road. Endeavor bought the land intending to capitalize on the boom by building a business park named The Domain.
Today, Endeavor displays a near-magic ability to forecast an area’s worth, brokering landmark property deals opening the way for retail centers such as IKEA and Gateway. But in 1999 Endeavor was just getting started, and The Domain was supposed to be their first success story.

Then, in 2001, the technology boom went bust, leaving The Domain’s future up in the air.

Rebirth
Four years later, Endeavor decided to pick up the pieces and reinvent The Domain. When they first pitched a large-scale multi-use complex to the Austin City Council in 2003, council member Betty Dunkerly complimented Endeavor Real Estate Group for being “willing to take a risk, to step out and do something unique in a community that’s in a downturn.”

Converting The Domain to retail was an opportunity to capture the shopping dollars being spent outside of Austin in places like Round Rock and San Marcos.

Simon Properties
In 2005, Simon Property Group came on board as a partner. If Endeavor is king of Austin real estate, then Simon is the king of retail. To the north, Simon owns Round Rock’s new Premium Outlets and to the south Barton Creek Square Mall. In between lies the Arboretum, Gateway Shopping Center and Highland Mall.

“What we particularly liked about The Domain location was that it had all of the general retail needs,” Simon spokesman Les Morris said. “It’s big and easily accessible, but it’s also got a real sense of place and a nice history.”

Beyond interesting architecture and high-end shopping, the new Domain has natural beauty. The land, formerly IBM’s Century Oaks recreation park, is dotted with 100 year-old trees, most of which were spared during The Domain’s construction, giving an historic presence to the new center.

Many of The Domain’s retailers are new to the Central Texas market. Barneys CO-OP, Tiffany & Co., Neiman Marcus, Intermix and Lacoste will all be opening their first Austin locations, while businesses like St. Thomas Boutique and J. Crew will be moving from their previous Austin locations.

“Most of the stores opening up in The Domain are the kind where there’s only one in a market,” Marsh said. “So if they’re here versus San Marcos or Georgetown, it creates good destination retail for the area.”

As a part of their agreement with the city, Endeavor earmarked $1 million to help local retailers, such as Bettysport, an Austin-owned sportswear store, set up shop and pay rent in The Domain.

“It’s important that we bring in new nationally-recognized retailers, but we also wanted to give a chance to local entrepreneurs who have a following in the community,” Morris said.

Live, Work, Play
“Live, work, play” is the newest mantra in city planning. It is also the concept behind The Domain.
The phrase comes from the phenomenon that Austinites frequently live in one part of the city, while working and playing in others. By centralizing these activities, the city can ease sprawl and congestion.

“Cities want to contain urban sprawl, and the only way to do that is to go vertical,” Marsh said. “If Austin wants to be more efficient, it needs to densify.”

The city has already exercised a vote of confidence for the “live, work, play” ideal in the form of $37 million in property and sales tax rebates for The Domain. It turns out that all those features that make The Domain appealing to the city (green space, tall dense buildings, landscaping) also make it expensive. In 2003, Endeavor appealed to the city council for help offsetting the costs, and with Mayor Will Wynn’s support, Endeavor received rebates.

When The Domain opens, Simon has said there will be 390 residential units mixed with 60 different stores, 14 restaurants and 75,000 sq. ft. of office space. According to Domain spokesperson Lauren Harris, the Domain is Simon’s most complete and most upscale example of mixed-use development.

More to Come
What shoppers see when they enter The Domain occupies less than a quarter of the land Endeavor owns. The Domain’s phase two is slated to open in Spring 2008 and will add another 350,000 sq.ft. of retail.

Across The Domain’s main street, Domain Drive, Endeavor is demolishing IBM’s old manufacturing buildings to make way for new office space, a hotel and parking garages.

Within the next 12 years Endeavor expects the entire Domain area to house 3,400 residential units, 3 million sq. ft. of office space and 10 acres of park space.

“People are really going to be surprised by the beauty of The Domain and what we’ve been able to do with the architecture and location,” Morris said. “We’ve created a place where you want to spend a lot of time whether you’re living or shopping or just hanging out. It’s really a showpiece for Austin.”






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This is going to be interesting to see two skylines in Austin, especially from where I live on the southside near South Austin Hospital. With the view here we should be able to see both.
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Here are a few sites that discuss the civil planning side of the North Burnet/Gateway area more generally:
* http://www.northburnetgateway.com/
* http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/zoning/north_burnet.htm (check out the draft plan that was released a few weeks ago...pretty exciting stuff)
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Pretty much an identical thread going: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=126232
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Wrong railroad

They have the UPRR colored red - that's not the commuter rail line starting service in '08; the one we're using is on the east side of Burnet, even up this far north (between the existing IBM buildings and Metric Blvd).
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Pretty much an identical thread going: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=126232
I've now merged these two threads into one. Please before posting new threads, make sure that there's not already one about your topic. If there is, feel free to add to it, even with more articles and updates. Unless you can't find an existing thread, then please try to post in the original thread. If you can't, then it's no biggy.
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Itll be interesting to see how far this actually gets....pending any economic slowdowns.
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Itll be interesting to see how far this actually gets....pending any economic slowdowns.
I don't think you quite understand what's going on in the Gateway/N. Burnet Rd. area. This is a "neighborhood plan" not a proposed development. Therefore, the current and future local economy really does not play much of a role at this time.

This plan lays out the ground rules for future zoning ordinances on particular parcels of land in this area. In simplistic terms, once this plan is completed and adopted by the City of Austin, it will define what type of development goes where in the Gateway/N. Burnet neighborhood and make it relatively difficult to change said ordinances.

So, yes, this area will be “completed,” as you put it. And, within 25 years or so, it should look fairly similar to the plan you see today. However, it will take time. How long is anyone’s guess (and this is where the economy might play a role).
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^ Right. So really even if the economy does tank, as long as this area is zoned and planned as it is currently being, it will happen, eventually. It's not just a developer's dream, it's the guideline for developing the area.

It'll be interesting indeed to have a whole other defined skyline outside of downtown. At this point Austin doesn't really have one, other than a few "clusters" of buildings. This skyline will be visible from just about everywhere in the central/south central/northcentral areas. And if you're high enough up, anything to the west and especially to the east. You'll be able to see it from I-35, Mopac, 183, 290, and perhaps even 71. This is of course if they build buildings of up to 300 feet tall. And there's even a possibility of seeing it if the buildings do end up shorter, say 150 to 200 feet. I hope that doesn't happen, though, I want nothing less than 300 feet there. When you're coming into North Austin on I-35, if you look off to your west/southwest you can actually see The Arboretum. This skyline would be east of that, closer to you and possibly twice as tall. So the views from I-35 may be pretty good also. Views to the west, northwest and southwest will be less likely as the hills will get in the way.
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There are a series of articles and features on The Domain, in the Statesman, leading up to grand opening in less than 2 weeks. Today's story highlights the upscale residential component above and alongside the high end retail establishments. Cool pictures too...

http://www.statesman.com/business/co.../27domain.html


Domain dwellings have an upscale address
Luxury apartments are above world-class shops and within walking distance of restaurants.




By Shonda Novak
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Tuesday, February 27, 2007

Breakfast at Tiffany's won't be out of the question for residents at the Domain, where 390 luxury apartments are side-by-side with the most upscale retail in Central Texas.

Domain dwellers will be able to live upstairs from the famous jeweler and down the street from Neiman Marcus and Macy's. They'll be able to window-shop after hours at other new-to-Austin stores including Louis Vuitton and Barney's Co-Op. They will be able to walk to the Oakville Grocery to pick up a gallon of milk or a $200 bottle of wine, or grab a late-night dinner at restaurants including McCormick & Schmick's, Jasper's and Kona Grill.

Such high-style living comes at a price: Rents start at $1,030 a month for a one-bedroom apartment with 678 square feet.
The highest-priced units are in the block next to Neiman Marcus. One unit in that section, above Tiffany, with 1,164 square feet plus a balcony, will rent for $2,285 a month. The most expensive unit is a one-bedroom, one-bathroom loft that will rent for $2,430 a month.

Open-air developments that blend retail, residential, office and other uses are cropping up across the country, but the Domain is the first in Central Texas, said Kent Collins, a partner with Centro Partners LLC, the local developer involved in the $30 million residential portion.

"This is by far the largest, most complex mixed-use project in Austin with residences on top of retail," Collins said. "Nowhere else is there 700,000 square feet of world-class retail with innovative apartments above."
Indianapolis-based Simon Property Group Inc. and Austin-based Endeavor Real Estate Group are developing the retail part of the Domain, which opens March 9. The $245 million center is on North MoPac Boulevard (Loop 1) between Braker Lane and Burnet Road.

The apartments and townhouses are in six buildings with brick, limestone, and sage- and butter-yellow stucco exteriors; the tallest building has four floors of apartments above two levels of shops.

Columbus Realty Partners Ltd. is the lead developer on the residential portion; its partners are Simon and GE Asset Management, the investment arm of General Electric Co.
Leasing agent Lincoln Property Co. has signed up 17 tenants, and the first few have moved in.

Under a tax incentives package the city approved in 2003, the developers agreed to reserve 10 percent of the units at below-market rents for people in certain income ranges.
Rents will range from $630 to $747 a month for people who earn $27,000 to $32,000 a year.

That makes them affordable to people such as Mando Perez, who learned he was eligible when he started working in the Domain leasing office.
"I jumped on it," said Perez, whose commute will be an elevator ride down to the leasing office. "It allows you to live at a place you normally wouldn't be able to afford."

Perez is looking forward to living, working and shopping in one place.
"You can do it all in your own little area," he said. "It's like a city within a city."
Jason Pickard, who sells new homes for Gehan Homes in Round Rock, stopped by the leasing office last week to take a look. The Domain seems like "fine and fun living," he said.
His commute would be easier with the recent opening of the Texas 45 tollway.

The Domain also includes 90,000 square feet of offices and eventually is expected to have a hotel and movie theater.


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Man, I love that Live oak in those two pictures at The Domain.

I really like the height being proposed there. I was let down when we heard about the heights for Mueller, which may or may not be 10 floors or so. I heard the tallest building there would be just 100 feet. That's not much, only as tall as AMLI Downtown, (the 7-story one). Anyway, I hope they do approve those 300 foot heights. I also like that this project looks to be more urban in character than Mueller is. It's more like The Triangle development, but with more height.
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