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Old Posted Nov 4, 2011, 8:04 PM
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We need a Bilbao effect on the waterfront, and not Gehry. I say open a huge international competition and invite progressive firms to bring a big idea to the waterfront - BIG.dk
It would be great to get some better architecture on that parcel-bring on the competition! I think the proposal is okay, but not worthy of that particular parcel on the waterfront. It's deserving of something much better, and something more inspiring.
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2011, 8:13 PM
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http://www.statesman.com/business/san-diego-developer-plans-50-story-hotel-east-1561221.html?cxtype=rss_business


here's the link to manchester's original hotel proposal in austin if interested...
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2011, 9:05 AM
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Seriously though, get something approved quick cuz we need the jobs...

I just lost my job...anybody need a Civil Engineer/Urban Planning intern?
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We need a Bilbao effect on the waterfront, and not Gehry. I say open a huge international competition and invite progressive firms to bring a big idea to the waterfront - BIG.dk
Speaking of Bilbao, the Midway Museum is set to display their proposal for a public plaza on the Navy Pier (where their parking lot sits). Read the article for more details, but they did describe it this way:
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It would double as a public plaza and, as with the acclaimed Bilbao Museum in Spain, use “the power of an architectural feature to capture the imagination of the world and to define a city,”
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...x-moving-forw/

Sketch of design found in article:



Hopefully we'll get more info on Tuesday
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2011, 1:37 AM
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WINGS OF FREEDOM!

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Council OK's Renovation Of Cathedral Towers

The City Council Tuesday unanimously approved a plan to renovate St. Paul's Cathedral north of downtown and build two mixed-use towers on adjacent land.

The 1.76-acre property at 2728 Sixth Ave. -- across from the west side of Balboa Park -- is home to the administrative offices of the Episcopal Diocese of San Diego and its primary house of worship, which was built in 1928.

The two towers will contain 110 condominium units, and 20,000 square feet of office and program space for the diocese. A 16-unit apartment complex more than 70 years old will be demolished.

http://www.10news.com/news/29717385/detail.html
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Skyscraper-sized 'wings' sculpture proposed for Navy Pier

Midway aircraft carrier museum proposes $68 million plan with 500-foot-high sail-like structures; critcs say views will be blocked

Sydney has its opera house, St. Louis its arch and Paris, the Eiffel Tower.

San Diego can match those iconic images with "Wings of Freedom," a 500-foot-high sculpture shaped like sails or wings on the downtown waterfront, the San Diego Unified Port District was told Tuesday.

The Midway aircraft carrier museum proposed the concept as part of a $68 million development, called "Veterans Park," on the adjacent Navy Pier:
  • A 500-space parking lot;
  • A 5-acre park on a deck 12 to 20 feet above the lot;
  • A permanent home for the San Diego Symphony's Summer Pops concerts with capacity for 6,000 attendees, plus public restrooms; and,
  • The "Wings of Freedom" sails flanking the pops amphitheater.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...osed-navy-pie/



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Old Posted Nov 9, 2011, 2:26 AM
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Midway aircraft carrier museum proposes $68 million plan with 500-foot-high sail-like structures; critcs say views will be blocked

Sydney has its opera house, St. Louis its arch and Paris, the Eiffel Tower.

San Diego can match those iconic images with "Wings of Freedom," a 500-foot-high sculpture shaped like sails or wings on the downtown waterfront, the San Diego Unified Port District was told Tuesday.

The Midway aircraft carrier museum proposed the concept as part of a $68 million development, called "Veterans Park," on the adjacent Navy Pier:
  • A 500-space parking lot;
  • A 5-acre park on a deck 12 to 20 feet above the lot;
  • A permanent home for the San Diego Symphony's Summer Pops concerts with capacity for 6,000 attendees, plus public restrooms; and,
  • The "Wings of Freedom" sails flanking the pops amphitheater.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...osed-navy-pie/


Ok. I laughed pretty hard at the picture. I'm all for some kind of statue or "iconic" structure. But 500 foot "sails"?
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Please if you build this project just build one! The two look completely wierd. Otherwise I think this could be interesting.
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The article also posted an alternate version which I feel is better, more pleasing to the eye and less obtrusive to the views. They may have something here. Perhaps tweek the design a bit and add a observation booth on the top.


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But please don't call it "Wings of Freedom"
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2011, 4:27 AM
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Wow the alternate design would be MUCH better! It would totally modernize the waterfront. Build these and have Calatrava design the new NBC and we would have a world class waterfront.

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Reminds me of this:



I agree, it needs an observation deck!

Maybe just clear glass on top of the alternate version?
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Until I see better/more detailed renderings of the initial proposal, I like the alternate better.

Looking at the full proposal pdf:
http://media.signonsandiego.com/news...esentation.pdf

You see one more rendering viewed as if on a boat in the bay. From this perspective, they will definitely pop out of the skyline. I also noticed that the section of the park nearest downtown is supposed to resemble a waving American flag. That and calling the sculpture Wings of Freedom is a bit much.

But other than that I kinda like it!
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This is a great proposal. We need more modern "monuments" in our cities these days. Although something bigger and better, sort of like the St. Louis Arch, would be a lot nicer.
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High speed rail is still kicking arse in California! It's one hit after another. hahaha

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblog...MhNLg.facebook

People need to give up on this monumental waste of money. Like others have stated, the cost/benefit ratio is so thoroughly out-of-whack with this thing.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2011, 10:50 PM
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The article also posted an alternate version which I feel is better, more pleasing to the eye and less obtrusive to the views. They may have something here. Perhaps tweek the design a bit and add a observation booth on the top.


signonsandiego.com

But please don't call it "Wings of Freedom"
I like it too. I will PUKE if they call it "Wings of Freedom" though!!!!!
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High speed rail is broken in China too!

http://www.echinacities.com/aroundto...struction.html
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One quick look at what has been built in this city it's difficult to say that people 'are so damn picky'.
lol i know 8]
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Is that a positive reaction? This NBC thing is a tough call while I agree that the current proposal is very bland I think that if we wait to try and come up with a project that pleases everyone (or more than 50%) something may never be built.

So here we are with Lane Field still with no start date and NBC delayed indefinitely I think we run the risk of having parking lots sitting at the waterfront for decades to come if we don't get going soon. The economy isn't going to get any better so we might as well put some shovels in the dirt now.
seriously... you, me and people complaining about design are prolly be dead by the time they even start breaking ground.
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Parking garage, hotel, restaurants planned in $40 million Seaport Village makeover.

Seaport Village, the bayside shopping center celebrating its 30th anniversary next year, looks to add an 82-room hotel, create 30 percent more space and demonstrate that "green redevelopment" works.

Terramar Retail Centers, owner of the 12.8-acre property at the foot of Pacific Highway, proposes to demolish the east side, remodel the west side, simplify the architectural theme and attract new national name brands to the collection of local mom-and-pop shops that cater to tourists.

"Keep in mind it's just a concept," Alex Liftis, senior vice president, told the San Diego Unified Port District board this week. "Some of these things are just ideas."

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...aport-village/

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