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Old Posted May 15, 2007, 3:05 AM
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Good for you for being proactive on the issue. Maybe all of us here should submit our comments and concerns about the proposal. Who knows, in the the end, we could help create "The Perfect Project"
I'm in.
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On a side-note, what is the building to the right of the Lane Field buildings that looks so tall? Is it over 500 ft or does the rendering just make it look like it towers over One America building???
It's just the rendering's perspective. It is the tallest of the NBC buildings, but even by SD standards, it's pretty short (~35 stories?)
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Old Posted May 15, 2007, 5:12 AM
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May I change the subject?

If the Chargers Stadium is built in Chula Vista, do you think the trolley will extend out to the new site? Screw Oceanside, no way in HELL will I enjoy going up there for a game...
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^^ The traffic on I-5 north of Del Mar is already horrible. Until the reconstruction of I-5 is complete (10 years?), it's going to be a pain getting up there.
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May I change the subject?

If the Chargers Stadium is built in Chula Vista, do you think the trolley will extend out to the new site? Screw Oceanside, no way in HELL will I enjoy going up there for a game...
Have I written enough on California High Speed Rail to be considered the resident expert? No, the trolley is not being extended out to Chula Vista any time soon. How many home games a year do the Chargers play? The only planning study being done right now on the trolley is an extension from Old Town up to UTC. And of course, there's C Street.
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Have I written enough on California High Speed Rail to be considered the resident expert? No, the trolley is not being extended out to Chula Vista any time soon. How many home games a year do the Chargers play? The only planning study being done right now on the trolley is an extension from Old Town up to UTC. And of course, there's C Street.
SHIT! I love taking the trolley into the Chargers games.
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Take Me Out To The Ballgame......

Pics from last Sunday's Padres-Cardinals game. Notice that the neighborhood is filling in quite well.








Aria is close to topping out, with the cranes for Vantage Pointe in the foreground












Hilton Hotel is going up fast across Harbor Drive










Cheap seats, San Diego-style



Main Library site if it ever gets built


Mini-scraper canyon


Urban patio


Crane for The Diegan


The Mark stands tall
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Old Posted May 15, 2007, 7:09 AM
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So you definitly got some pics of me! The yellow jersey, that's me, green arrow pointed at me.




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While we're at it, a few shots I took this past weekend around San Diego....











Click this panoramic for a larger version
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Great pics - - I hate seeing the library site barren for so long, wish there would be some movement on it
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Good for you for being proactive on the issue. Maybe all of us here should submit our comments and concerns about the proposal. Who knows, in the the end, we could help create "The Perfect Project"
Great idea! i submitted this comment to port of san diego today... ur right maybe if we all chip in and comment, something can happen...u never know..


This was my comment to them:
"I think the tower design is great! The sail roof top is unique and really will look world-class, lit up at night. Definitely a signature tower on our waterfront, and it will definitely stand out on our skyline.
But my main complaint against this project is they're twin towers.. Our skyline already has numerous twin towers (about 5 from my count), including directly east of the Lane Field project, the Grande towers. I think the it makes the skyline look really boring to have all these twin towers, especially from such a prominent location, right on our waterfront. And doesn't the 2006 Downtown Specific Plan Update outline that there should be no new towers that look too similar alike?
Finally, I think the base is a bit boring, but it's OKAY, just a nice kind of bland.
All in all, a really great hotel project for the waterfront and the city."
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Nice pics, UCSB! I especially like the 2 black and white photos.



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Great idea! i submitted this comment to port of san diego today... ur right maybe if we all chip in and comment, something can happen...u never know..


This was my comment to them:
"I think the tower design is great! The sail roof top is unique and really will look world-class, lit up at night. Definitely a signature tower on our waterfront, and it will definitely stand out on our skyline.
But my main complaint against this project is they're twin towers.. Our skyline already has numerous twin towers (about 5 from my count), including directly east of the Lane Field project, the Grande towers. I think the it makes the skyline look really boring to have all these twin towers, especially from such a prominent location, right on our waterfront. And doesn't the 2006 Downtown Specific Plan Update outline that there should be no new towers that look too similar alike?
Finally, I think the base is a bit boring, but it's OKAY, just a nice kind of bland.
All in all, a really great hotel project for the waterfront and the city."
Great comment. I'm going to follow up with a similar suggestion regarding the awful base and twin-tower issue. It's great that the city is encouraging comments from the public.

While we're at it, we should all submit suggestions regarding the NBC proposal, as well.
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Here are the other renderings of Lane Field that we've seen before, but only bigger -





Lane Field is the first development to proceed under the North Embarcadero Visionary Plan (NEVP). The NEVP comprises a set of public infrastructure improvements for the area bordered by Market Street on the south, Laurel Street to the north, the railroad right of way to the east and the San Diego Bulkhead line (the bayward edge of land) to the west, in downtown San Diego. The NEVP will shape the future of San Diego by joining downtown and the bay. The plan will benefit the entire region, enhancing the bay’s appeal as a hub of activity. Highlights of the plan include:

* A grand entrance along Broadway, from the Santa Fe Depot west to the water.
* A 1.2-mile esplanade that will stretch along the waterfront with trails for walking and jogging.
* A pier at Grape Street and North Harbor Drive.
* The revitalization of the Broadway Pier.
* A wharf for civic events.
* The addition of 1,770 trees.
* An outdoor dining terrace, new retail businesses and lighting along the wharf and piers.
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Old Posted May 15, 2007, 11:32 PM
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Click this panoramic for a larger version
Excellent photos!

This one in particular should be the SSC banner!
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Old Posted May 16, 2007, 12:16 AM
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Look its the IM PEI Tower but shorter Ha Ha



Yeah very orginal design Mr. Pei/Irvine. Such a revolutionary "signature tower" yep put it right up there with the Sydney Opera house the the Chicago Spire.

How about like a Crazy Redish all glass building like the color red of the Design Center expansion in West Hollywood!! At least it would be different and get some damn attention.
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700 Broadway Website up

The lead article in San Diego Metropolitan's Daily Business Report today was the unveiling of the 700 West Broadway (Pei Cobb-designed Irvine tower) project to the CCDC. I've pasted the full text below.

Coincidental with this announcement is the launch of the project's website (http://www.700westbroadway.com), which includes a number of photos and videos about the project.

The building itself is growing on me as a "foundation" structure in the skyline, but the city really needs a building with much more aggressive architecture to truly complete the waterfront. Problem is, we will soon be reaching a point where there will simply not be any more land to build on...

At any rate, I am overjoyed that there will finally be more commercial office construction downtown. Hopefully the growth in office space will fuel residential demand and create a more diverse and ultimately sustainable downtown.

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Daily Business Report

May 16, 2007

DOWNTOWN

Internationally known architect Henry N. Cobb of Pei Cobb Freed has designed a 34-story modern travertine and glass office tower for The Irvine Co. that will sit at the western gateway to Downtown's central business district. Michael Bischoff, associate partner at Pei Cobb Freed, presented the tower design Tuesday (May 15) to a design subcommittee of the Centre City Development Corp., which must approve it.

The office tower will be built by The Irvine Co. at the northeast corner of Broadway and Pacific Highway. The address is 700 West Broadway. The property is adjacent to the Santa Fe Depot and across the street from the former site of Lane Field. Construction could start as early as mid-2008 with completion about two and a half years later. The land was previously owned by Catellus Development for an office high-rise, but the property was later sold to Bosa Development, which considered building residential condominiums. Bosa sold the land to The Irvine Co., Downtown's largest landlord, earlier this year.

The building will be LEED certified by the U.S. Green Building Council.

“This site in San Diego has great importance to the city because of its relationship to the bay and its prominent landmark location at the western entrance to Downtown” said Cobb in a prepared statement. “The site demands and deserves a tower with great presence and integrity. I believe that 700 West Broadway will be elegant, characterized by calm, timeless and classic architecture that will be fresh and functional in 100 years. It will stand with quiet authority and be a pause in the visual landscape, a cornerstone.”

Cobb has said that the most important elements of a high-rise building are how it meets the sky and how it meets the ground. He drew inspiration from the Monadnock building in Chicago, which was designed by Burnham & Root and Holabird & Roche, and was completed in 1893. The building is still standing and functional today.

The top of 700 West Broadway, said Cobb, will be shaped by a flared crown that will give it a sophisticated, understated “flourish” where it meets the sky. At street level the building will have four “front porches.” On the east side, for example, the building will relate well to the adjacent entry pavilions at the Santa Fe Depot, said Cobb. The tower will have a restaurant facing Broadway that will offer indoor and outdoor seating. A long, low fountain will run the length of the restaurant between its outdoor patio and the Broadway sidewalk.

Cobb has served as the principal design partner on more three dozen major commissions, either completed or underway in the United States, Europe, Asia and Australia. The list includes the John Hancock Tower in Boston, the U.S. Bank Tower in Los Angeles, the World Trade Center and Grand Marina Hotel in Barcelona and the China Europe International Business School in Shanghai. Cobb is one of three founding principals of Pei Cobb Freed (formerly I.M. Pei & Partners), based in New York.

“From the outset, we have been committed to building an exceptional building that will make a significant contribution to the beauty and impact of the San Diego skyline,” says Robert Elliott, group senior v.p. of urban planning and design at The Irvine Co. “Henry has far exceeded our expectations, producing a design that reflects lessons learning during a long and distinguished career. We will be proud to make his vision a reality, and our hope is that this building will attract new business to Downtown, a current priority of the city and the CCDC.”

The unveiling of the building also is the most amazing online presentation in the history of Downtown development. You can check it out yourself here: http://www.700westbroadway.com/
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UCSB Gaucho, those pics are superb. excellent job!
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Yeah very orginal design Mr. Pei/Irvine. Such a revolutionary "signature tower" yep put it right up there with the Sydney Opera house the the Chicago Spire.
Oh I know - I was just about to post that. How lame is that???
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Pei-Cobb at Santa Fe Depot plan view



I was kinda impressed with the presentation. they went all out. And anyone familiar with design knows that presentation IS half the product.
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