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Six stories don’t sit well with historic commission

A 65-foot mixed-use development proposed for Northwest Portland has Historic Landmarks Commission uncomfortable
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POSTED: 06:00 AM PST Thursday, January 17, 2008
BY ALISON RYAN

Six floors and 65 feet wouldn’t stack up to much in downtown Portland or the Pearl District. But in Northwest Portland, where low-rises rule, six floors and 65 feet could nix a proposed housing complex.

“This is a big reason for why this is a historic district, and your building has a responsibility to respond to that,” said Brian Emerick, a member of the Portland Historic Landmarks Commission.

The commission Monday gave design advice for the mixed-use development proposed at Northwest Johnson Street and 19th Avenue. Too tall, commissioners said in a previous advice session.

And earlier this week, the message was the same: Anything above four stories is going to be a tough sell.

“We have some very significant buildings within spitting distance of this building,” Commissioner Harris Matarazzo said.

Among them are National Register spots like the American Apartment Building at Northwest 20th and Johnson and the Whidden & Lewis-designed W.B. Ayer House that sits directly across Northwest 19th Avenue.

Myhre Group Architects’ design, Commissioner Richard Engeman said, “has a clean classicism about it.”

Still, Chairman Art DeMuro’s informal poll of commissioners heard a chorus of “no” and “maybe” on whether the building was approvable at six stories. The commission asked to see more information on precedents for height in the area, including measurements of nearby four- and five-story buildings.

“I think it’s a stretch to say that those four-story buildings are similar in scale,” Emerick said.
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I read somewhere this week that Richard Singer was giving up plans to build a parking garage at NW 23rd and Irving. Instead he is turning the plot into a surface parking lot. Waaay to go!!!
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Well don't - because the NIMBYs here are not unlike the NIMBYs in NE, N, SE and SW Portland. Check out the article in today's DJC about development in Irvington - same thing or the attitude on Mississippi for the past year regarding proposed development.

The best one can do to counter those attitudes is become involved in your neighborhood association to present support of proposed development. These people aren't evil, they are just worried.
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Apartments OK'd next to Couch Park

After extensive review, the Portland Historic Landmarks Commission approved plans last month for a six-story, 101-unit apartment building on Northwest 19th Avenue between Hoyt and Glisan streets.

SERA Architects looked to several other early 20th-century apartment buildings in the neighborhood to come up with a design intended to blend into the Alphabet Historic District. The new building will sit at the eastern edge of Couch Park.

Some residents objected to the size and mass of the building.

"It looks like something that belongs in the Pearl, not our district," David Goldwyn said. The architects met several times with Northwest District Association representatives, who in the end supported the plan. Given the sloping, half-block site, the roofline tops out at 65 to 72 feet high.

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The Morrison mix
City’s housing experiment puts low earners next to ex-homeless, upscale condos
By peter korn
The Portland Tribune, Mar 21, 2008

Travis Howe has this problem. It’s not a big one — more of a situation, really.

Three weeks ago, the 23-year-old Howe, who recently graduated from the University of Oregon with a degree in international marketing, was living with his parents in Gresham, where he grew up.

Howe hopes to go to law school — eventually. For now, Howe says, he would be satisfied with a job at an eco-friendly company. But not one that pays too much.

That’s the problem.

Howe is among the first wave of apartment dwellers at the Morrison, the city’s newest subsidized housing building, on West Burnside Street, a few blocks west of downtown. City housing officials and developers recognize the Morrison is part of a significant social engineering experiment.

Ninety-five of the Morrison’s 140 subsidized units are available at below market rates — $695 for the one-bedroom unit that Howe rents. But there is another type of housing at the Morrison — 45 of its apartments are offered nearly rent-free to the chronically homeless. And that is a mix that hasn’t been tried before.

In fact, the entire development next to PGE Park, of which the Morrison is a part, is something of an experiment in bridging the gaps that normally exist between people. The Morrison was built as part of one overall project that includes the Civic condominiums next door, where most units have sold for between $250,000 and $600,000.

The Morrison and the Civic are the type of experiment — sometimes criticized — that is happening in public housing in cities across the country, according to Robert Bruegmann, a professor of urban planning at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Bruegmann calls it “high-level social engineering in a top-down way.”

But experiments can fail, Bruegmann and others point out. If the 45 previously homeless tenants in the Morrison — most with histories of substance abuse or mental illness — prove to be difficult tenants, the building, which opened in November, won’t long retain its value as the new jewel among Portland affordable housing properties.

And if the Morrison should lose luster, it could affect property values in the condominiums next door.

The Housing Authority of Portland, which built and runs the Morrison, is well- aware of the risk. In fact, as originally planned, the Morrison had as its tenants a broad range of subsidized units that did not include the chronically homeless.

When the housing authority found it did not have money to complete the Morrison, it went to the city, which agreed to put up the last $3 million on the condition the building put aside apartments for the homeless.

“Nobody has really done this,” says Benjamin Wickham, asset manager for the housing authority, of placing housing for the homeless next to high-end condos.
College grads pick part time

Travis Howe doesn’t sense any risk — he’s ecstatic with his one-bedroom apartment at the Morrison.

“I feel alive again,” he says of living blocks from downtown. Howe, who is single, says he is able to pay his $695 with money from his part-time modeling career.

“It’s paid off my college, my Land Rover, and it pays my rent,” Howe says.

Full-time work would suit Howe, but he says he doesn’t want to exceed the $28,500 income limit that would force him out of the Morrison.

He calls this period of his life his “mental break” before a career or law school. If he weren’t able to live at the Morrison, he says, he’d probably go back to Gresham and live with his parents awhile, saving up money.

Seattle native Nick Martinez has been living at the Morrison about as long as Howe. He recently graduated from Willamette University in Salem. He’s working part time behind the counter at Banana Republic, and he’s looking for a job downtown in either public relations or journalism.

Martinez, 23, says the Morrison’s location is ideal for his downtown job hunt.

Martinez wants full-time work, but if it is going to put him over the $28,500 income ceiling for staying at the Morrison, he wants it to be a lot more than he’s making now. Otherwise, he says, it’s hardly worth it to earn a little more and spend it on higher rent at a market-rate apartment building.

“I really don’t think I would move out for anything less than $40,000,” Martinez says.
Will the mix work?

Martinez says that if he hadn’t secured a one-bedroom apartment at the Morrison, he could have found a market-rate studio apartment for about the same rent. He’s especially pleased with the mix of people at the Morrison.

“This is the most eclectic group of people living in one building I’ve ever experienced,” he says.

But the government’s subsidizing that eclectic mix is bad public policy and won’t work, according to Howard Husock, vice president of the conservative think tank Manhattan Institute and author of a book critical of traditional public housing policies.

Husock says that in the long run, working-class people leave public housing to the poor.

“Middle-class people with prospects and income will move into these places when they’re new,” Husock says. “They moved into (20th century) public housing when it was new. When it started to become hard to maintain they moved out. Things look good when you cut the ribbon.”

Steve Rudman, executive director of the Housing Authority, says the alternative to mixing incomes in a public housing project makes the experiment worth trying.

“It’s not without risk,” Rudman says of the Morrison. “A lot of planning is needed to make this work. But at the end of the day the trade-off, where people of poverty are isolated, is not a good idea.”

Alma Abrams isn’t sure Howe or Martinez should be living in subsidized housing anyway. And she supports diverse housing. Abrams, a senior citizen who lives in the nearby market-rate Trinity Apartments and says she lived in subsidized housing in Chicago years ago, walks by the Morrison nearly every day. She doesn’t like what she’s seeing.

“My tax dollars went to build that with the assumption that people who are in there didn’t have any other place to go,” Abrams says. “This is not what I envisioned.”

Abrams’ vision included more people close to her age. “I was hoping there would be more seniors in the building,” she says.

Public housing projects in Portland — especially in the Pearl District — have for years been subjected to similar criticism as they try to balance the need for rental income with helping the city’s poorest citizens find housing.

The Morrison is full of young people like Howe and Martinez, people who probably will be making significantly more money in a few years. That is at least partly by design, according to Rudman, and partly out of necessity. The housing authority owns and runs the apartment building.

With 45 apartments in the Morrison dedicated to tenants who previously were homeless, the rest of the building’s 140 apartments needed to be filled by tenants who not only could pay their own way, but could pay enough rent to keep the building operating and help the housing authority pay off its debt on the project.

Howe and Martinez are, in effect, subsidizing the low rents from the 45 “permanent supportive housing” units — to use the housing authority’s language — by paying $695 rents that are “shallowly subsidized,” according to Rudman. The housing authority estimates that the Morrison’s rents are about $100 below market rate.
Balance is key

If the housing authority had set the Morrison’s rents lower, Rudman says, the building wouldn’t have been able to sustain itself.

“That’s a tricky balance,” the housing authority’s Wickham says.

Besides, Rudman says, young residents such as Howe and Martinez, regardless of what they eventually may earn, deserve publicly subsidized housing.

“Think about how many (coffee) baristas in their 20s and 30s there are in the city with college degrees,” Rudman says. “If they qualify, who are we to say you shouldn’t live here?”

But the Morrison’s shallow subsidies create their own problems by making the building unattainable for many people who would qualify for apartments if the rents were lower.

Bill Buchholz is one of about a half-dozen seniors in the Morrison’s apartments. He’s the senior on fixed income who Abrams wants to see at the Morrison. But he may not stay.

Buchholz, 75, says he loves his apartment. He says his $695 monthly rent comes out of his sole income — his $880 monthly social security check. Add to that the money he has to budget each month for electricity, telephone and cable and, Buchholz says, “I can’t eat. I don’t have any money.”

Buchholz says he previously was in an assisted-living facility in Forest Grove, but he applied to live at the Morrison because of the location. He attends services at the nearby Trinity Episcopal Church and is a member of the Scottish Rite fraternal organization just two blocks away. He’s also partially disabled. The housing authority provided him with an apartment that includes a disabled assisted bathroom.

Housing Authority officials say they don’t require minimum incomes for occupants — as long as prospective clients are under the income limit, they can qualify for an apartment.

The housing authority hasn’t yet compiled demographic data on the Morrison’s residents, who began moving in to the building in November.

Here is what they do know of the initial renters in units not dedicated to the homeless: Most are men, 90, compared with 31 women.

There are only six units with children, all of whom are under the age of 4. Five units are rented to black tenants, one to a Latino.

The majority of residents are in their 20s. A number are half-time students who work part-time jobs at bars, coffee shops and restaurants. Average stated income for the residents is $23,000.
Ex-homeless must adjust

Fifty-eight-year-old Betty Jenner, who lives in one of the units for the homeless, says the Morrison is the nicest place she has lived in, well, for about as long as she can remember.

Jenner says she lived on the street for 19 years, in Portland and other cities, until the nonprofit Portland-based Northwest Pilot Project found her transitional housing last year at Alder House, a downtown single-room-occupancy hotel. Jenner, who suffers from mental illness, describes Alder House as “rotten.”

The Morrison, she says, is different. “I can get my nerves calmed down.” Jenner says she suffers from epilepsy but since moving in to the calmer environment of the Morrison has not had one seizure.

“You can walk out in the hallway without getting yelled at,” Jenner says.

Jenner’s rent at the Morrison is $180, 30 percent of her monthly supplemental security check. At privately owned Alder House, she paid more for a 200-square-foot apartment with a community shower down the hall. Now Jenner has 525 square feet to herself, with her own bathroom outfitted to help her move around.

But a visitor to Jenner’s apartment can’t help but notice that Jenner smokes constantly in her apartment, though the Morrison is supposed to be nonsmoking.

And then there is the clutter. Jenner is a hoarder, according to Jessica Larson, a housing specialist with Northwest Pilot Project who comes to the Morrison twice a week. Larson works with the 45 previously homeless tenants on adjusting to what is for them a new way of living.

Larson says there’s a difference between cluttering an apartment and trashing it, and Jenner is on the right side of the line.

As for the smoking, Larson says, a special dispensation has been given to the Morrison’s formerly homeless tenants. If the homeless tenants were told they could not smoke, Larson says, “Then we’re just setting people up for failure, because they’re going to smoke.”

Larson says that living at the Morrison has changed Jenner’s life.

“She’s a new woman,” Larson says. “She’s going to live there forever. She loves it, and she knows the alternative.”
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More important, in terms of the social experiment going on at the Morrison-Civic project, is that Larson is certain Jenner will be a good tenant. There have been no complaints from other renters or building management, she says, about Jenner or about the other previously homeless tenants.

Larson says she has been amused when tenants have told her about a few bizarre conversations with some of the previously homeless renters. She says she figures the young residents at the Morrison are getting firsthand lessons in tolerance.

Larson says that she’s not certain if Jenner is any better off at the Morrison, surrounded by working-class and younger residents, than in a building set up for people with histories like hers.

Given the need, Larson says, it doesn’t matter.

“We’ll take housing as it’s available,” Larson says. “We need so much more housing for people like Betty. The reason things are the way they are in this building is because of how things penciled out. We’re not saying this is the best way to house the chronically homeless. We’re saying this is a financially viable way we can create housing for the chronically homeless. I think the Morrison is going to work, and I think we need 15 more Morrisons.”

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As for the smoking, Larson says, a special dispensation has been given to the Morrison’s formerly homeless tenants. If the homeless tenants were told they could not smoke, Larson says, “Then we’re just setting people up for failure, because they’re going to smoke.”
maybe they are setting you up for success...or a extra 5-10 years to your life

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Providence Office Bldg.

Notice for the proposed new 6 story Providence Health and Services office building located at NE 43rd and Halsey St..

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I believe I have seen similar design of structure somewhere in east Portland.

Also I get the feeling that this should belong in the City of Portland's threads instead of the suburb's threads which are more for cities such like Vancouver, Salem, Gresham, etc.
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glad to see this long awaited project to get started. Not impressed with the architecture, but oh well.

I assume the parking lot is for a future building?
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Apartments OK'd next to Couch Park

After extensive review, the Portland Historic Landmarks Commission approved plans last month for a six-story, 101-unit apartment building on Northwest 19th Avenue between Hoyt and Glisan streets.

SERA Architects looked to several other early 20th-century apartment buildings in the neighborhood to come up with a design intended to blend into the Alphabet Historic District. The new building will sit at the eastern edge of Couch Park.

Some residents objected to the size and mass of the building.

"It looks like something that belongs in the Pearl, not our district," David Goldwyn said. The architects met several times with Northwest District Association representatives, who in the end supported the plan. Given the sloping, half-block site, the roofline tops out at 65 to 72 feet high.

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I noticed today (Sun) this property was fenced off -- glad to see this got approved!

I thought I read the NWDA had a problem with the courtyard not being wide enough, and it sounded like the developers might back out b/c it wouldn't be financially feasible to make that change. Guess not. This will be nice for Couch Park across the street, having more 'eyes on the park.'
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Undoing of a vision

BACK STORY • Con-way has bold plans but ‘dialogue’ could doom them

By peter korn
The Portland Tribune, Apr 29, 2008

Courtesy of Con-way INC.
Con-way Inc. has a bold plan for redeveloping some of the land its headquarters sits on in Northwest Portland. However, the heavy density of the proposed plan has neighbors worried.


On a drizzly evening in January, about 25 people, many unfamiliar with one another, sit around a long conference table in an upstairs office at Con-way Inc. headquarters in Northwest Portland.
Most in the room live or work close to the trucking company’s property. Some are members of the neighborhood association, others represent various local businesses and nonprofits.
Craig Boretz, Con-way vice president of corporate development, has just finished a private presentation of a slide show of what he calls “an early stage master plan” for a development on Con-way’s parking lot-dominated property in Northwest Portland.
And early stage it is, with few of the architectural or planning details that will, in the end, determine the project’s success or failure.
But the vision that Boretz and project designer John Spencer have created is bold enough that even without detail, it begs reaction.
Northwest Raleigh Street has become a canal, modeled after similar thoroughfares in Amsterdam. Streetcar lines pass through the development. A public plaza leads into a series of tall buildings at the development’s center. The artist’s renderings appear to show an entire neighborhood built from the ground up.
The Con-way plan is bold and ambitious. It also, many in the city believe, represents a litmus test for the city’s commitment to urban density. It includes residential towers taller than any building in the Pearl District, along with parks and a community center.
Boretz and Spencer talk about affordable family housing and open spaces, greenway corridors for pedestrians and bicyclists, possibly even a neighborhoodwide heating and cooling system that could be more efficient than individual building systems.
But there is a trade-off, Boretz explains, and that is density.
Low-density housing – such as a collection of townhouses – is not financially feasible, he says. It won’t bring in enough revenue to cover what may be as much as $50 million just to put in below-ground parking, much of it for the 1,000 Con-way employees who work in the company’s two office buildings.
It won’t pay the bills for the public spaces and the community center that won’t yield any revenue at all for Con-way.
What would help pay for all that is what Con-way is proposing: thousands of housing units, many of them in large condominium and apartment buildings, possibly adding between 4,000 and 5,000 new residents to Northwest Portland’s current population of 12,000.
The lights in the room brighten and no more than a few seconds pass before Greg Theisen, vice chairman of the planning committee for the neighborhood association, offers the first reaction.
“I’m a little shocked,” Theisen says. “This is much more than I ever thought I’d see here.”
Kim Carlson, chairwoman of the neighborhood association transportation committee, warns Boretz that he should expect some “pushback” from neighborhood residents concerned about increased traffic.
At meeting’s end Boretz is asked when the public will be shown this master plan, and he says February or March. That public presentation has not been held yet, and it has not been scheduled yet. In fact, the renderings of the plan that were shown in January are no longer available for viewing.
Instead, the Con-way team has been making presentations to a number of neighborhood groups and governmental agencies, but without the slides.
Portland has seen a number of large-scale developments in recent years. But the Con-way project, on the largest undeveloped piece of property left in the central city, presents a crucible for the city’s commitment to density in a way the other developments could not.
South Waterfront is a neighborhood created from scratch. Its primary impact on the nearby Lair Hill area is the way it blocks views of Mount Hood.
The Pearl District rose from an abandoned rail yard. There was no backyard from which people there could shout that they didn’t want the development in theirs.
But the Con-way property, all 20 acres, is a bridge between the single-family homes off Northwest 23rd Avenue and the Pearl District. There are plenty of backyards from which people have started to say, “Not in mine.”
Board members of the Northwest District Association, probably the most vocal and mobilized neighborhood association in the city, already have begun to raise doubts about the Con-way vision.
And the initial protests over the Con-way plan have raised questions of another sort.
Planning, most experts agree, is what Portland does well. But big, bold designs? Not so much – possibly because they die in the planning process.
“The cautionary principle is very much alive in the DNA of Portland,” says Gil Kelley, director of the Portland Planning Bureau.
He lists bold project ideas that haven’t happened: Making underground Tanner Creek a free-flowing surface stream through the central city again, a Frank Gehry building proposed for the Pearl District that died for lack of funding, capping Interstate 405 and moving Interstate 5 away from the river on the east bank of the Willamette River – both plans abandoned for lack of money and civic will.
Kelley says Portland’s city government is open to big visions, but that the process of putting them into action has to involve dialogue with the public and city agencies. And he thinks those deliberations, in the end, benefit the city.
“There’s no reason boldness can’t occur here,” he says. “It just isn’t going to be the result of one developer walking in with a drawing and everybody bowing down. It might represent a little design by committee, but, generally, it has a truer fit.”
As for reaction to his initial talks with Con-way, Kelley says: “I had a mix of feelings. They’re at least pushing the envelope with some concepts.”
Vision lost in process

Peter Finley Fry, a planning consultant to developers, says the multiple layers of bureaucracy that have a say in how a proposed development looks makes bold visions nearly impossible in Portland. One reason, he says, is the process takes too much time.
“The trouble is our planning becomes a process of compromise,” Fry says. “You might start out with an exciting vision and people who had that vision will fade away and people afraid of that vision will stay put. And the planning bureau draft will dumb it down and the planning commission will make it further dumbed down.”
In Fry’s estimation, the biggest obstacles to bold, visionary design such as Con-way has proposed are Portland’s neighborhood associations.
“We artificially empower mediocrity,” he says. “There’s a certain proportion of people who have fear of change anywhere. In Portland, those people are empowered with authority through the neighborhood associations.”
Fry says that when he first saw a picture showing Con-way’s proposed canal street, “I loved it.” His second reaction, he says, was thinking that it is unlikely he’ll ever see it in the real world “because of the fundamental lack of leadership at the city level.”
Without strong leadership from the mayor’s office, Fry says, the fate of projects such as Con-way’s are left to the bureau of planning, which inevitably result in compromise.
John Spencer, a Portland urban designer who helped envision South Waterfront years before being hired to work on the Con-way project, disagrees with Fry. He calls South Waterfront bold, and says it was made possible because then-Mayor Vera Katz was willing to actively support it.
Spencer says his years as chairman of the city’s design commission convinced him that it isn’t the city that’s keeping more visionary design from occurring in Portland.
“I would hear from people that it was difficult, but I was on a committee that was encouraging architects and their development clients to act more boldly,” he says. “It was easier to design a building that played by the same rules as the last building that got approved, and that was the safest and most predictable way to go.”
But Fry argues that the city’s lengthy approval process encourages designers to take the safer route because they want their projects approved. “That’s just human nature,” he says.
Striking deals or going public

Homer Williams, the developer who helped create the Pearl District and South Waterfront, says that with enough will and political capital, developers can put bold designs into place in Portland. But it’s hard, he says. And Con-way has taken a wrong first step, he believes.
By showing its preliminary master plan to groups with a stake in the development, including the neighborhood association, Con-way opened itself up for criticism before it was ready to deal with it, Williams says.
He says he learned from his experiences with the Pearl District and South Waterfront that he had to have agreements in place on specific pieces of developments before his plans went public.
With South Waterfront, he says, he secured commitments from Mayor Vera Katz and from Oregon Health & Science University on its investment in a campus that would be connected to its main campus by the tram. And those two weren’t the only ones with whom bargains were made.
“We got everybody around the table every Monday for months, from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.,” Williams says. “PDOT, OHSU, PDC (the Portland Development Commission), (the) planning (bureau). We said, ‘OK, let’s make an agreement.’ ”
He says the parks bureau, for instance, wanted a greenway left along the Willamette River. In response, he and other developers agreed to give up the four acres of property along the river that is worth tens of millions of dollars.
In return, Williams says, the developers received commitments from the city for more height in South Waterfront buildings and more tax increment financing that made the Portland streetcar’s arrival in the new neighborhood possible. OHSU got its tram.
“It’s the only way to do it,” Williams says. “Let planning defend the plan. No developer can defend the plan. The developer has to be willing to take the bullets.”
But architect Jerry L. Ward, who lives within a mile of South Waterfront, says the fact that the neighborhood association as well as other property owners and public interest groups were not included in those early negotiations made the process unfair.
“The neighborhood association never knew about the heights (of South Waterfront towers) going to 325 feet until after all the amendments were signed and delivered,” Ward says.
Williams says he fears the Con-way plan, even with its green streets and sustainable design, is unlikely to successfully bridge the divide from vision to reality because criticism has begun and Con-way has no allies in place.
“I like the plan,” Williams says. “It was a bold plan. The minute they put that plan out to the public, I thought, this is going to be dead on arrival. It’s just sad.”
Boretz says he made a decision to include the public early, and he still thinks it was the right choice.
Specifically, Boretz says he didn’t want to follow the South Waterfront model.
“It wasn’t something I was comfortable doing – back room,” he says. “I just felt we needed to listen to what people were saying and respond to that in conceptual terms and not try to create special deals.”
Boretz says most of what he’s heard in response to his presentations has been positive, and that he’s not surprised at some neighborhood resistance.
“It may be because this is the first project I’ve worked on, but I don’t think it will be picked apart,” he says. “I think it is big enough and incorporates enough really good public benefit elements that it won’t get picked apart.”
The trouble with cars

But the key, Boretz says, will be solving the traffic problem. That’s why the master plan focuses on bike lanes and the streetcar, and why Con-way currently is drawing up a traffic study.
Boretz says he hopes Con-way employees live in some of the development’s housing. And maybe, he says, Con-way’s final design could change the way people in Portland think about traffic.
“I don’t know if this will be the development that will tip the scales, but people generally recognize they’ve got to find ways out of their cars,” he says.
Roger Vrilakas, a member of the neighborhood association planning committee, isn’t counting on people getting out of their cars. He thinks the Con-way development is going to lead to massive traffic jams in Northwest Portland.
He also says Con-way should not get the zoning variances that would be necessary to build its tall buildings and dense housing.
Vrilakas, who lives on Northwest Johnson Street, says he has heard all the arguments about inner-city density as the solution to suburban sprawl.
“Northwest Portland is already very dense,” he says. “If anybody has done their part in preventing suburban sprawl, it is certainly the people that live in Northwest. There is a point at which we need to start thinking about urban sprawl. Sprawl implies more and more and more. And that’s what they want – more. I want what everybody has agreed to. I don’t want more people, more cars, higher buildings.”
Vrilakas says Con-way possibly adding 2,000 housing units could mean a 40 percent increase in Northwest Portland’s population, and more drivers.
“Here’s a way to think of it,” he says. “Next time you’re in your car going down the street (in Northwest Portland), count 10 cars, and put four more in there. See if they fit.”
Juliet Hyams, president of the neighborhood association board, says there is not much support for the Con-way project among board members.
John Bradley, chairman of the neighborhood association planning committee, says he would like to see Con-way stick to current zoning designations with a variety of buildings, none taller than the currently allowed 140 feet.
But Carlson says she is “optimistic” that the neighborhood can find common ground with Con-way.
Carlson says she has seen the Con-way presentation at three showings, and she’s noticed it change in response to comments by board members, with one street that in the initial version of the plan was designated for automobile use later emphasizing bicycles and pedestrian use.
“This is a good problem to try to solve,” Carlson says. “We shouldn’t be whining about it. They can find friends in this neighborhood if there’s a little less presentation and more working together on it.”
Neighbors have concerns

There are plenty of people and institutions near the Con-way property who would like to work together with Con-way, and who are worried how the final project design could hurt them.
But small requests can be the undoing of bold vision, Fry says.
Parishioners from St. Patrick’s Catholic Church, at the northeast corner of the Con-way property, have told Boretz they don’t want the church to end up in the shadow of tall Con-way buildings and they have asked that a small Con-way parcel behind the church – once a church school – be given back to the church.
Representatives of Food Front, the neighborhood’s longtime co-op, have told Boretz that they’d like to have a place as the new neighborhood’s grocery store – aware that if they don’t, and another grocer specializing in natural foods goes in, it could severely hurt the co-op.
Officials with nonprofit community center Friendly House would like to run the Con-way development’s new community center, and are afraid a competing community center could threaten Friendly House’s survival.
Tad Savinar owns two blocks of property a block north of the Con-way property that he hopes to develop, and is concerned that Con-way will develop first and in doing so will use up the infrastructure capacity of the area.
“The challenge of big-vision planning, to people who are adjacent to it, is that they have the horsepower to get to the finish line first,” says Savinar, who adds that much of the Con-way plan appeals to him. “My concern is, what happens if we want to build in 15 years? Will the transportation department say, ‘You can’t build because we’re already at capacity?’ ”
Savinar says he recently met with planning bureau officials who assured him he will be included in talks about the area’s growth.
Boretz says he recognizes the local neighborhood association will have some impact on the final design of the of the Con-way development, but he also knows he’s got an “economic engine” that won’t be easy for the city to put aside.
Con-way could spend between $1 billion and $2 billion in development costs over the next 10 to 15 years, Boretz says.
“That’s a lot of construction jobs and a lot of things that spin off those construction jobs,” Boretz says.
But the presentations Boretz makes now to various public groups are less compelling than the one he made in January. The only visual aid is an aerial view of the Con-way property.
Asked why in presentations he no longer shows the visionary slides of grand buildings, public plazas and canal streets, Boretz says: “We don’t want people to think we’re locked into it. We’re not. We love the concepts. We think they’re bold and they look terrific. But they’re just concepts right now.”

peterkorn@portlandtribune.com
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you know I really hope this happens because it would change the face of Portland for the better. It would be amazing to have a South Waterfront style development that was focused towards middle and lower incomes and families.

Lets hope the next mayor will be on board with pushing this idea forward.
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If the neighborhood fights too hard I am afraid that we will be left with parking lots. Con-way needs density to make the project work. As the article says it takes a lot to make the under ground parking affordable. So if the density gets thinned too much there is no project at all.
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I noticed today (Sun) this property was fenced off -- glad to see this got approved!

I thought I read the NWDA had a problem with the courtyard not being wide enough, and it sounded like the developers might back out b/c it wouldn't be financially feasible to make that change. Guess not. This will be nice for Couch Park across the street, having more 'eyes on the park.'
The old buildings and their parking lots across 19th Ave from Couch Park are now gone, and the half block is nothing but dirt. My wife commented on how much of an improvement it already is.
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2653 NW Thurman

Just noticed, while walking home, a sign for a new 4-story building at 2653 NW Thurman. The site is currently occupied by some nasty 70's apartments, which I will be glad to see go. Web site is www.2653Thurman.com. To me the design seems acceptable, nothing special about it, but nothing offensive either. About a year back there was a design review or pre-app conference for this site; the design was quite different as I recall.
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I like the fact that it's not a mega building, however I wish them luck selling them. I'm sorry they didn't include a den or another area that could be used for sleeping instead of one bedroom.
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