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Old Posted Feb 17, 2009, 8:52 PM
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Done. See it. Man O Man!!

That is nice. Good height and a great look.

What can we do to get this approved?? Seriously, what?
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RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends denial of the request as submitted. A high rise building perched on top of two, small,
vernacular commercial structures overpowers the historic integrity of the smaller buildings. The landmark
buildings were not designed to be the "base" of a high rise. The character of San Antonio's unique downtown is in
part due to the juxtaposition of small and large buildings. The small buildings reinforce the pedestrian scale of the
block and allow for light and air at the street and river level.
The City of San Antonio Historic Preservation and Design Section of the Unified Development Code restricts
building height to no more than a 50% variation in the scale of buildings in the adjacent block face
(35-609 (b)(1)).
"Where a historic resource is intended to be used as any part of a development, the developer shall consider the
context of the resource's original site and the importance of the setting in the new development. In some instances,
a resource will occupy the full site and limit development opportunities to rehabilitation, renovation or restoration
for adaptive reuse."
Are they serious??? with the Drury right across the street and the new Marriott right there?? really? at the price it cost for land, they really expect someone to stay at 2 floors there?
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2009, 9:12 PM
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Done. See it. Man O Man!!

That is nice. Good height and a great look.

What can we do to get this approved?? Seriously, what?
we could write them...
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2009, 9:14 PM
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Here are the pictures/renderings:















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Old Posted Feb 17, 2009, 9:17 PM
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The only problem with writing them is: Do they read it? Will they care?

In person is the way I'd want to go.

Question, is the HDRC the final vote or does council or the Mayor have some say?

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we could write them...

Shanon Peterson Wasielewski, AICP
Historic Preservation Officer
(210) 207-8316
shanon.wasielewski@sanantonio.gov


Kay Hindes, City Archaeologist
(Archaeology & Plat Reviews)
(210) 207-7306
kay.hindes@sanantonio.gov


Larry Gutierrez, Senior Planner
(Demolitions & Plan Reviews)
(210) 207-7902
larry.gutierrez@sanantonio.gov


Elizabeth Porterfield, Senior Mgt. Analyst
(210) 207-3327
elizabeth.porterfield@sanantonio.gov


Vacant, Senior Planner
(Historic Survey)


Anna Glover, Planner
(HDRC Agenda, Permits & Applications In-Take)
(210) 207-7925
anna.glover@sanantonio.gov

Yvette Thomas, Planner
(HDRC Agenda, Permits & Applications In-Take)
(210) 207-7244
yvette.thomas@sanantonio.gov

Chris Sills, Planner
(HDRC Agenda, Permits & Applications In-Take & Plat Reviews)
(210) 207-0166
chris.sills@sanantonio.gov

Vacant, Planner
(HDRC Agenda, Permits & Applications In-Take & Plan Reviews)
(210) 207-7991



Administration


Maria Kieke, Executive Secretary
(210) 207-7991
maria.kieke@sanantonio.gov



Code Enforcement


Sylvia Ann Cortez, Code Enforcement Supervisor
(210) 216-9756
sacortez@sanantonio.gov
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Another hotel? Say it ain't so.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2009, 9:34 PM
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Another hotel? Say it ain't so.
It's so but man, it's a great looking 24 story building. I'd take it even if it were a 24-story storage garage.
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Too tall.
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I'd even take it at 15 or so.
Wait, what am I saying? they got to me;
Is that SA's magic number, 15?
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Too much of an uninspired, cookie-cutter building to go up next to and detract from such a cool old building as the Broadway National Bank... er, uh.. Drury Hotel.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2009, 10:46 PM
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Writing them will do absolutely NO good nor seeing them in person.

All of the great Real estate developers get the media on their side.

Just like in the movie Gladiator " Win the crowd and you shall win your freedom "
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Should we email Kens or Ksat or something? Tell them San Antonio needs some new history.
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I like it. It works well with the existing- not over done, just clean and simple. I can't understand why the HDRC insist on trying to rewrite history? The growth they want was killed years ago, by the depression and flood, yet they insist on trying to revive it. You would think they've never been to Boston, Philly, Chicago, or NYC, especially since they're defiantly not building their silly argument/model on these historic cities.
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Since they're hellbent on making nothing into something, I suggest the building be hollowed out - leaving only a facade, reinforced, landscaped and lead down to the river. Maybe throw up a few historical markers/placards.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2009, 11:25 PM
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There we go. Well i have to say is I like it. It looks great and not because of the height, but because its so bold and will stand out next to its neighbors.

What really bothers is me is this commission does not want to touch any old building, they want to save them all even if it means to have a vacant building that does absolutely nothing but take up space. When you could have a fully functioning building that brings business and money to the city and oh yes the big one JOBS. Go figure...

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We NEED this downtown! Too bad it couldn't be condos

Anything that looks nice, adds height, and creates more density is OK in my book. I'm really liking the locations proximity to Main Plaza. Besides, how many other viable high rises proposals have we seen lately?

I just read a story about hotel demand in SA increasing despite the economy. Let's work with what were given.
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2009, 12:24 AM
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Should we email Kens or Ksat or something? Tell them San Antonio needs some new history.
Sounds like a good idea.

I know some media people read this forum and I also think some here have connections with media folk.
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2009, 12:29 AM
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Hope that was quick enough

Boutique hotel wanted at Alamo Fish Market
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Dang I feel like someone doesn't like the idea of a 24 story building or hotel for that matter... But have to say it was pretty cool seeing all this talk on here form so quckly into action. Would've liked Mr. Olivio to be more open of this hopeful building in his blog but o well...
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