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Old Posted: Apr 25, 2007, 12:21 AM
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so with the Cosmopolitan and that other tower proposed next to the Rose Quarter MAX stop, does that mean the lloyd district is starting to build some momentum? i would love to see some projects (particularly this one) translate to action, but my skepticism over the evolution of this part of town remains. thoughts?
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Old Posted: Apr 25, 2007, 1:45 AM
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From the Oregonian: Hank Ashforth, whose company, Ashforth Pacific, owns 20 blocks in the Lloyd District, would be one of the new line's biggest benefactors. Ashforth, among others, has spent his own cash for studies to jump-start the construction.

If the streetcar's effects in the Lloyd District match the west side, Ashforth hopes to build new high-rise offices on a four-block site between Northeast Seventh and Ninth avenues.

"The economic development potential from this thing is huge," Ashforth said.
It's all about the streetcar, I think. I share your skepticism, but with Ashforth making these kinds of public pronouncements, it does seem possible that the area will turn the investment corner and become a more desirable and enjoyable place once the line goes in. Who knows, maybe the streetcar will inspire the implementation of some or all of the Lloyd Crossing plan?

The CC Hotel would also help considerably, but that seems entirely up in the air.

Who knows, though, if the Rose Qtr tower will ever actually go up, and the Cosmo is years from even breaking ground. By the time it does, streetcar construction should be wrapping up or well underway, and much more exciting things should be happening.

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Developer sees Lloyd as next Pearl

Condos - Joe Weston envisions his 28-story skinny tower as a step toward enlivening the district

Wednesday, April 25, 2007
RYAN FRANK
Joe Weston, the developer who first stamped the point tower into Portland's skyline, wants to introduce the first skinny high-rise to the Lloyd District.

The Portland Development Commission, the city's urban renewal agency, will vote today on a deal to sell Weston a grassy lot sandwiched between a Denny's restaurant and budget motels for $2.4 million.

City leaders hope the 28-story, 325-foot tall Cosmopolitan Tower would infuse a little big-city vibe into an otherwise stale, suburban-brand street.

The city, TriMet and Metro have invested tens of millions of dollars into the Lloyd District the past 20 years. But they have yet to reach their goal of a tourist and convention hot spot in the mold of the Pearl District. The sidewalks along Grand Avenue are empty most nights, and the property is dominated by parking lots.

Weston sees that changing.

"It's dead now, but you're building into something," he said.

Weston, 69, made his millions building eastside apartments aimed at blue-collar workers. In recent years, he's been the juice behind the Pearl District. And next up, Weston's focus is the eastside and point towers.

He refers to the Lloyd Center Mall's recent makeover and the apartment-to-condo craze in the area as proof of change. "There's a sense of ownership," Weston said. "It's not a transient community.

"Your spendable income has come up considerably."

So much so that Weston sees a market for Pearl-like condos.
The Cosmopolitan's design would mirror Weston's Benson Tower at Southwest Jefferson Street and 10th Avenue, Portland's first point tower. The Benson covers 26 stories with just a 6,300-square-foot footprint. Towers in the old days might have covered 20,000 square feet, and today's Pearl projects run as much as 12,000 square feet.

Weston said the narrow towers create better views, more sunlight and more open space. He said he is convinced it's the way the city should go.

The Benson is 80 percent sold and still under construction. Weston is scheduled to break ground on The Manhattan, his second point tower at Southwest 14th Avenue and Alder Street, late this year. The Cosmopolitan would start in 2009.

The Cosmopolitan would be in a prime spot, next to the MAX tracks and the future streetcar loop.

The city paid $1.4 million for the land in 2000 after another developer, Enterprise Grand LLC, couldn't find money to pay for a planned condo tower.

The city sought developers interested in buying the site in 2006. Weston was the only one to step up.

Under the deal, Weston would agree to build about 200 condos. About 20 would be reserved for people who earn no more than 120 percent of the Portland region's median family income. That means a single person who makes $56,000 could get a studio condo for about $200,000.

The sale price, $2.4 million, is based on a January appraisal by PGP Valuation that put the land's market value at $2.3 million to $2.5 million.

For more on The Cosmopolitan, visit The Oregonian's City Hall blog at blog.oregonlive.com/portlandcityhall/. Ryan Frank: 503-221-8564; ryanfrank@news.oregonian.com.
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Old Posted: Apr 25, 2007, 3:54 PM
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^must have sent out a press release or sumptin

Weston to buy land for his second point tower
Daily Journal of Commerce
by Kennedy Smith
04/25/2007

Point towers and Joe Weston have become synonymous during the past few months as the developer has moved forward with plans for two high-rises in the city.

The Portland Development Commission today is expected to sign a disposition and development agreement with Weston Investment Co. for Cosmopolitan Tower, a proposed 28-story point tower in the Lloyd District.

The point tower would follow Manhattan Tower, a 32-story point tower proposed by Weston for the eastern edge of Portland’s Goose Hollow neighborhood.

The PDC owns the Lloyd District property Weston wants at 1010-1034 N.E. Grand Ave. and will sell it to him for $2.4 million, its appraised value as of January.

Weston said he doesn’t like the term “development agreement” because he’s not getting any money from the development commission.

“There’s no subsidy on the part of PDC,” he said. “We’re not asking for money; we’re just buying the land outright.”

However, the agreement does come with provisions, including a promise from Weston to make a minimum of 10 percent of total residential condominium units in the building affordable to households earning 120 percent of median family income, about $80,280 for a family of four.

Weston will also agree to a marketing plan that targets first-time and minority home buyers.

The PDC won’t transfer the property to Weston until Weston gets development financing and the necessary building permits, the agreement states, and PDC will have a chance to comment on each phase of the building’s design.

Weston is working with LRS Architects of Portland and IBI/HB Architects of Vancouver, B.C. – the same design team that is working on Weston’s Manhattan Tower.

The PDC Board of Commissions will hear details about Cosmopolitan Tower at an 8 a.m. meeting today at the NECA-IBEW Electrical Training Center, 16021 N.E. Airport Way, in Portland.

Cosmopolitan Tower

at a glance

• 325-foot-high point tower

• 28 stories

• Corner of Northeast Grand Avenue

and Northeast Hassalo Street in

the Lloyd District

• About 200 residential condomini-

um units

• Several upscale residential units

from 2,000 to 3,000 square feet

• Three-story podium with ground-

floor commercial and two floors of

parking

• An additional two floors of below-

grade parking

Source: Portland Development Commission
http://www.djc-or.com/viewStory.cfm?...29333&userID=1
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Looks like he's actually going to do this...he has the money to pay for it out of pocket.
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Old Posted: Apr 26, 2007, 12:28 AM
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heres hoping weston lives many more years!
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Joe Weston is a visionary. I agree with him in the fact that the Lloyd District is ready to step up to the plate. With the Rose Garden, LLoyd Center, Convention Center, Light Rail, possible future Ballpark and CC Hotel, and current inventory of office/commercial space in the district, this area will take on a identity of its own. The Lloyd District will offer a wonderful alternitive for prospective suitors who cannot afford the deep pockets necessary to relocate to the Pearl or SOWA. The Cosmo will initiciate a chain reaction of activity which will steal /challenge the thunder of the competitive districts.
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Old Posted: Apr 29, 2007, 2:46 AM
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^^^^Lets hope you're right DrewSki.
We've had our hopes dashed too many times with the Rose Quarter/ Lloyd District.
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Old Posted: Apr 29, 2007, 4:32 AM
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the waiting will kill you but eventually Lloyd will be a bustling neighborhood.
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Once the streetcar is operating in the Lloyd area I think the area will boom. The infrastructure is all ready in place. It will be less expensive for the city, and developers, to infill.

I think the Lloyd Center mall needs to look at making the mall less "fortress" appearing and begin to develop retail/housing along the street facing perimeter. Give it a more of a "life-style" feeling....Maybe put some housing on top of those parking garages or remove some of them.
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^^^^Lets hope you're right DrewSki.
We've had our hopes dashed too many times with the Rose Quarter/ Lloyd District.
I've been waiting since the late 60's for something to take off in that area which was basically in my backyard as I was growing up. There were big plans for a development of high rise apartments and office buildings back then called Coliseum Gardens. All that ever came of that was Calaroga Terrace. Every decade there seem to be a few more buildings added to the area. It doesn't seem like there are any view corridors in that flat area of town so maybe Portland's tallest buildings could end up being built there.
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is the cosmopoitan still being developed?
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Once the streetcar is operating in the Lloyd area I think the area will boom. The infrastructure is all ready in place. It will be less expensive for the city, and developers, to infill.

I think the Lloyd Center mall needs to look at making the mall less "fortress" appearing and begin to develop retail/housing along the street facing perimeter. Give it a more of a "life-style" feeling....Maybe put some housing on top of those parking garages or remove some of them.
life-style shopping centers seem to work best when they have acres of parking lots to develop - they convert some of them to attractive streets. Lloyd Center doesn't really have any extra space to develop - and I doubt they'd be ready to give up any parking they have (net).

Maybe they could build structured parking on the north side of the main superblock they have (on Halsey), then replace the parking on Multnomah St. with multi-story buildings - more stores and offices? I would really hate to live on that street. Ick!
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I kind of would like to see that area turn into a second Bellevue for the NW.
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Gee, I hope not. I think the Lloyd district has much more real urban potential than a soulless suburb with a bunch of skyscrapers.
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Weidler/Broadway couplet already has quite the urban feeling to it... the soullessnes shouldn't be an issue in the future then.
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Old Posted: Oct 29, 2007, 8:24 AM
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is the cosmopolitan still being developed?
Well, it is moving through the process. The latest activity was on the 16th of this month, as you can see here.
The PDC website still says 2008 groundbreaking.

Contrast that with the Manhattan, which was originally forecast to begin construction this fall, and would appear to be on hold for the time being. According to Portlandmaps, there has been no activity since April, when there was one early design advice request.
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And we wait and we wait and wait some more, and more red tape gets wrapped around and around, and then "poof," it's gone!....That better not happen. I need a more positive attitude, but have been let down enough with projects that never made it to fruition. Bring on the Cosmo and the Manhat for crying out loud! This (metro) area is filling with people and traffic and well, we need these buildings, and not just for aesthetic reasons.

Rant over.
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Want to eliminate the "red tape" and the waiting and waiting for people to debate and see if a project "feels good" then eliminate the PDC. Talk about an agency that has done more to harm the ecomonmy of this city.
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There is red tape and it isn't helping.

These projects aren't stuck because of red tape...they are stuck because they don't make financial sense, especially in this market. The Manhatten and Cosmopolitan have construction costs well above $200 per square foot...I think closer to $225 per square foot. A couple of years ago these kinds of projects were costing $120-140 per square foot..While the sales prices are high they aren't and can't be high enough to make these projects smart enough to move ahead with. Untill costs come down, the surplus of condos comes down and prices really go up...these projects will be paper buildings.

There are a few large condo projects moving forward now. There aren't many and I don't think there will be many for awhile.
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