NEW YORK | 150 Greenwich St. | 977 FT / 297 M | 72 FLOORS

[DUBAI2015]

In this picture, 4NWTC has the same color of gray as the old WTC.
(Oh Yeah, I'd give this tower 8/10)

[ThreeHundred]

That picture shows you clearly how huge all 4 buildings are.

[KevinFromTexas]

I still don't like it. That's too prominant of a location and height for it be that boxy and tame. I'm not really saying the design is bad, but we already have something similar to this with 7WTC. New York has enough bulky twins and look alikes. Please don't think I'm bashing New York, or even this design, I just think something else would be better.

[samoen313]

as someone said earlier, maki intended the building to reflect the very simple nature of the twin towers as well as to be an elegant but sober reflection on the site where the tower stands. the building is about restraint. while foster's tower has similar respectful qualities, for many of us, it is clear that maki's tower will very easily outshine rogers' tower in its design and product. obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion and there are those out there that feel the site should break new york's tendency to produce very stoic boxes. but, others of us understand the difficulty of approaching a site with such tragic symbolism. for those who think that maki put no thought or creativity in the tower . . . be careful of being an armchair critic in the sense of accusing an architect of designing a cop out building versus something dazzling. no architect simply draws a block and says "voila" in order to go work on something else, there was a clear process and justification for what was done in the design.

[ThreeHundred]

^ You win the award for best post ever.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

I still don't like it. That's too prominant of a location and height for it be that boxy and tame.

That location is exactly why it has to be tame and understated. There's enough going on with the three taller WTC towers. I also think it's a nice contrast to Tower 3.

[NYguy]

This 947 ft giant would have a dominating presence in most places, yet it will
be dwarfed by its neighbors to the north...

[NYguy]

[Patrick]

Its ok, not as Amazing as the other towers, but it is clearly huge. One Liberty Plaza is a huge building, but it will soon look small in comparison to 150 Greenwich.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Its ok, not as Amazing as the other towers, but it is clearly huge.
One Liberty Plaza is a huge building, but it will soon look small in comparison to 150 Greenwich.

Imagine, this tower will be dwarfed by 150 G, which in turn will be dwarfed by 175 and 200 G...

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[knarfor]

This is actually my second favorite building at the site. "God is in the details". At least make sure to read about them before passing judgement. For instance, the the facade will feature perforated brushed aluminum spandrels. Sheets of the same material will also be placed on the inside of the upper parts of the windows. The effect should be dramatic, giving the building depth and a warm scintillating inner glow.

There are more design features that make this building really excellent, but I can't think of them right this instant. In any case, it may be "understated" but the design is thoughtful and elegant. Not all buildings have to look like Liberace's wardrobe to be outstanding.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by knarfor

In any case, it may be "understated" but the design is thoughtful and elegant. Not all buildings have to look like Liberace's wardrobe to be outstanding.

This building would be right at home on Park Avenue. I think it's classy.

[Thefigman]

I also like how different this building will look at the different angles.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Thefigman

I also like how different this building will look at the different angles.

This will be my favorite angle, the sheer wall...

[NYguy]

Another view...

[FerrariEnzo]

Not to add to the consensus but this tower lacks everything except a sterile appearance, I do not understand how an accompished architecht like Maki can look at this and be pleased, it is my impression that this may simply be a massing model. Does any one have evidence to support this notion?

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo

I do not understand how an accompished architecht like Maki can look at this and be pleased, it is my impression that this may simply be a massing model. Does any one have evidence to support this notion?

Quite the contrary actually...

[H-man]

Originally Posted by NYguy

Another view...

this is a bit off topic but looking into the reflection of 7 WTC you can see the pit of ground zero

[Adyton]

Maki's excellence is in design details, selection of materials, & building craftsmanship. Hopefully, the selection of the brushed AL spandrels and glass curtain wall will be first rate i.e., on a par with SOM-Chicago Adrian Smith's design/selection for the Trump tower currently being built.

I do wish the tower was 1047' tall... in other words with a Trapezoidal glass prizm crown illuminated for the last 100'! I did email him a rendering along with a very carefully worded message.

It will be interesting to see how more detailed renderings will appear when they are released in the next 2-3 weeks?

[NYguy]

^ Can't wait for more renderings.

Meanwhile, site prep, slurry wall construction continues for towers 2, 3, and 4...


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